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Old 08-23-2010, 12:37 PM   #76
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:50 PM   #77
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The real question is where is the Wonder going AFTER she leaves Hawaii in May and before she returns in September. Back to Alaska? Or to Asia?
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:52 PM   #78
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Disney has tentative bookings at Pier 2 in Honolulu Harbor in May and September of 2012

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On the Wonder they spoke openly that they were headed to hawaii
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Old 08-23-2010, 01:00 PM   #79
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Anyone heard more specifically when the 2012 itineraries are going to be released other than in the Fall?

I'm hoping we'll know something before we cruise in October. So, we can book onboard for a specific cruise instead of just dummy dates.
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Disney has tentative bookings at Pier 2 in Honolulu Harbor in May and September of 2012

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http://www.staradvertiser.com/busine...of_Disney.html
The same Star Advertiser article was discussed here back in June 2010 when it was first published:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2487253

Disney's tentative bookings at Pier 2 in Honolulu Harbor in May and September of 2012 suggest that Honolulu may be a stop for the repositioning cruises between the Disney Wonder's Alaska cruises out of Vancouver in the warmer months and Mexican Riviera cruises out of Los Angeles in the colder months.

The newspaper writer speculated:
"For example, Disney could offer a land-and-sea vacation package combining a cruise with a stay at its 840-room Ko Olina project. Aulani, a Disney Resort & Spa, is on track to open in the fall of 2011."
But that's really not a realistic option. The cruise could not originate or terminate in Honolulu if the other end of the cruise was Los Angeles or another U.S. port. The writer failed to consider U.S. law. Foreign-registered ships like the Disney Wonder cannot legally offer ONE-WAY cruises between two U.S. ports without going to a DISTANT foreign port as part of the itinerary. Nearby ports in Canada and Mexico do not qualify.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!! Oh my GOSH! That would be AWESOMENESS!!!!! Yeah. I am DEFINITELY signing up for that one!
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The same Star Advertiser article was discussed here back in June 2010 when it was first published:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2487253

Disney's tentative bookings at Pier 2 in Honolulu Harbor in May and September of 2012 suggest that Honolulu may be a stop for the repositioning cruises between the Disney Wonder's Alaska cruises out of Vancouver in the warmer months and Mexican Riviera cruises out of Los Angeles in the colder months.

The newspaper writer speculated:
"For example, Disney could offer a land-and-sea vacation package combining a cruise with a stay at its 840-room Ko Olina project. Aulani, a Disney Resort & Spa, is on track to open in the fall of 2011."
But that's really not a realistic option. The cruise could not originate or terminate in Honolulu if the other end of the cruise was Los Angeles or another U.S. port. The writer failed to consider U.S. law. Foreign-registered ships like the Disney Wonder cannot legally offer ONE-WAY cruises between two U.S. ports without going to a DISTANT foreign port as part of the itinerary. Nearby ports in Canada and Mexico do not qualify.
Vancouver works for one-way cruises to Alaska. And other cruise lines use either Vancouver or Ensenada, Mexico for the foreign port for Hawaiian cruises now. I don't see why DCL couldn't just include a jog to Ensenada for it's Mexico to Hawaii leg, and then Vancouver for the Hawaii to Alaska leg.

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Disney has tentative bookings at Pier 2 in Honolulu Harbor in May and September of 2012

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great, but are you willing to take out a loan from the bank too pay for it though b/c I'm sure it will have a bigg price tag.....$$$$$$$$$.....
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Vancouver works for one-way cruises to Alaska. And other cruise lines use either Vancouver or Ensenada, Mexico for the foreign port for Hawaiian cruises now. I don't see why DCL couldn't just include a jog to Ensenada for it's Mexico to Hawaii leg, and then Vancouver for the Hawaii to Alaska leg.

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Other cruise lines fo as you say. My parents a couple of years ago did a round trip on Princess from here in L.A. The only forgin port was a one hour stop in Ensenada before they got back here to L.A. If they do Vancuver to L.A. Via HI in Sept. I will be on.
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Vancouver works for one-way cruises to Alaska. And other cruise lines use either Vancouver or Ensenada, Mexico for the foreign port for Hawaiian cruises now. I don't see why DCL couldn't just include a jog to Ensenada for it's Mexico to Hawaii leg, and then Vancouver for the Hawaii to Alaska leg.
Ensenada is not a "distant foreign port," as defined by the the Passenger Vessel Services Act (PVSA) of 1886.

To offer ONE-WAY service from Honolulu to Los Angeles, the ship would have to "jog" to someplace like South America.
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Other cruise lines fo as you say. My parents a couple of years ago did a round trip on Princess from here in L.A. The only forgin port was a one hour stop in Ensenada before they got back here to L.A. If they do Vancuver to L.A. Via HI in Sept. I will be on.
Ensenada is a perfect way to handle the foreign port requirement of the PVSA for a CLOSED-LOOP cruise that begins and terminates in the same U.S. city.

But Ensenada does not satisfy the DISTANT foreign port requirement of the PVSA for a ONE-WAY voyage (one the begins in one U.S. port and terminates in another).

The issue here is whether Disney can offer land-sea packages involving the Aulani.

Disney could offer 2-week closed-loop cruises out of Los Angeles by including a brief port call at Ensenada. But guests would then have to fly to Honolulu to stay at the Aulani.

Also, Disney can include Honolulu on a repositioning cruise where one end is Vancouver and the other is Los Angeles. But, again, that wouldn't include a true land portion at the Aulani (only perhaps a shore excursion to there).
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Ensenada is not a "distant foreign port," as defined by the the Passenger Vessel Services Act (PVSA) of 1886.

To offer ONE-WAY service from Honolulu to Los Angeles, the ship would have to "jog" to someplace like South America.
Then explain why Princess cruises can go round trip from Los Angeles and only has Ensanada as it's only port of call?
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Ensenada is a perfect way to handle the foreign port requirement of the PVSA for a CLOSED-LOOP cruise that begins and terminates in the same U.S. city.

But Ensenada does not satisfy the DISTANT foreign port requirement of the PVSA for a ONE-WAY voyage (one the begins in one U.S. port and terminates in another).

The issue here is whether Disney can offer land-sea packages involving the Aulani.
Sorry I posted a reply to fast. Anyway. Let's put it like this. They can offer one way from Vancuver to Los Angeles via HI. as a two week cruise. Yes they could not do a Aulani land sea, only a excursion. Anyway you look at it, if they do that two week cruise in Sep. 2012 I am on it. I almost don't care about price.
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Then explain why Princess cruises can go round trip from Los Angeles and only has Ensanada as it's only port of call?
Because the PVSA treats closed-loop and one-way cruises differently.
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