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Old 06-13-2010, 05:39 PM   #31
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I am hoping for something that works with the kiddos school schedule because I really want on a disney Hawaii cruise.

Me too! Anyone have thoughts on time of year Disney would do the Hawaii cruise?
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Old 06-13-2010, 05:42 PM   #33
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Doesn't need to be 2 cruises, just a 2 week cruise -- not unusual for DCL repositioning cruises. Here is one of HAL's repo for this fall:

02 Oct 2010 Vancouver, B.C., CA 03:00 PM
03 Oct 2010 At Sea
04 Oct 2010 At Sea
05 Oct 2010 At Sea
06 Oct 2010 At Sea
07 Oct 2010 Hilo, Hawaii, US Noon 11:00 PM
08 Oct 2010 Lahaina, Hawaii, US TR 08:00 AM 11:00 PM
09 Oct 2010 Honolulu, Hawaii, US 08:00 AM 11:00 PM
10 Oct 2010 Nawiliwili Kauai, Hawaii, US 08:00 AM 05:00 PM
11 Oct 2010 Kona, Hawaii, US TR 08:00 AM 04:00 PM
12 Oct 2010 At Sea
13 Oct 2010 At Sea
14 Oct 2010 At Sea
15 Oct 2010 At Sea
16 Oct 2010 At Sea
17 Oct 2010 San Diego, California, US 07:00 AM
True, but DCL would make more money by turning it into two cruises! I was looking for the port stop in Mexico, but it doesn't need it to go from Canada to US. It's also a LOT of sea days.
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Old 06-13-2010, 05:44 PM   #34
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Me too! Anyone have thoughts on time of year Disney would do the Hawaii cruise?
If it's a repo cruise before and after Alaska, it will be in May and September - as the article said.
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Old 06-13-2010, 06:03 PM   #35
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here is the quick quote from the honolulu star advertiser article.

although a disney spokesman wouldn't comment on any of the company's cruise itineraries beyond 2011, the state department of transportation confirmed that disney has tentative bookings at pier 2 in honolulu harbor in may and september of 2012.
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Med ports have been booked for some time now for 2010, 2011, 2012, but with a revamp in 2011 and sales falling a bit, I think, they will consider alternatives.
Would be nice of them to do an alternate itinerary in the MED to enable a
B2B. It's just so far and expensive for us to consider going for a 7 night cruise.
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Would be nice of them to do an alternate itinerary in the MED to enable a
B2B. It's just so far and expensive for us to consider going for a 7 night cruise.
True - although a 7-night cruise gives you time to see more of Europe on land pre and/or post-cruise.
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I think NancyIL is headed in the right direction with this one. Although it is possible to do a two week marathon cruise with 8 or 9 sea days, I think it is a more realistic to divide it into two cruies. One from LA with a stop in Mexico and then sail onto Hawaii and make several stops around the islands...probably 11 nights or so.

Then the next cruise would be like the repositioning cruise I did back in 2003 on the Vision of the Seas (RCCL). We did two pre-cruise days in Oahu. It was an 11 night cruise. The itinerary was as follows:

Day 1: Honolulu (Oahu)
Day 2: Lahaina (Maui) Overnight
Day 3: Lahaina (Maui)
Day 4: (Kauai)
Day 5: Hilo (Hawaii)
Day 6: Kona (Hawaii)
Day 7: At Sea
Day 8: At Sea
Day 9: At Sea
Day 10:At Sea
Day 11:At Sea
Day 12; Vancouver, BC

Fabulous experience. However, the 5 days at sea in the middle of the Pacific Ocean were a little spooky....

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I think NancyIL is headed in the right direction with this one. Although it is possible to do a two week marathon cruise with 8 or 9 sea days, I think it is a more realistic to divide it into two cruies. One from LA with a stop in Mexico and then sail onto Hawaii and make several stops around the islands...probably 11 nights or so.

Then the next cruise would be like the repositioning cruise I did back in 2003 on the Vision of the Seas (RCCL). We did two pre-cruise days in Oahu. It was an 11 night cruise....
Disney will have a RESORT in Hawaii, and they will want people to spend time there before or after their cruise! It would be stupid from a business standpoint to have two long repositioning cruises between Vancouver and Los Angeles without a stop in the middle for those who want to stay at their resort.
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True, but DCL would make more money by turning it into two cruises! I was looking for the port stop in Mexico, but it doesn't need it to go from Canada to US. It's also a LOT of sea days.
There's a reason why no cruise lines offer cruises that begin in Los Angeles and end in Honolulu (even with a brief stop in Ensenada, Mexico).

It's illegal under US law.

Foreign-flagged ships are not allowed to carry passengers on one-way voyages between two US ports, unless the ship stops at a "distant foreign port," as defined be the Passenger Vessel Services Act (PVSA) of 1886.

Ensenada is not a "distant foreign port."

Hawaii cruises on foreign-flagged ships usually follow one of two models:
  1. Roundtrips from California with a stop in Ensenada. (If the cruise begins and ends at the same US port, it has to go to a foreign port, but not to a "distant foreign port.") Such cruises take around two weeks.
  2. One-way cruises (in either direction) between California and Vancouver, via Hawaii. Typically, this serves the purpose of repositioning a ship, while providing a more compelling itinerary than a simple cruise along the Pacific coast. Such cruises also take around two weeks.

One-way cruises between Florida and California are legal because they stop at a "distant foreign port."
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Old 06-13-2010, 07:28 PM   #41
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Cruise lines used to offer cruises from San Diego or LA to Hawaii with a stop for a day in Mexico before they sailed to the islands. I am not sure how they enforce the distance foreign port. I know for a fact this cruise was offered the cruise before I took the Hawaii to Vancouver option.

I would hardly call Nassau a distant foreign port, but it qualifies enough on 3 day cruises...

There are also Alaskan cruises that depart from Seattle and go to various ports in Alaska, again with a one day token stop in Victoria or Vancouver, BC. I don't think these qualify as "distant foreign ports."
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I was thrilled when DCL announced their Alaska cruises, and now it looks like they'll be announcing cruises to Hawaii in the near future. I guess I'd better start saving now so I can hand over all my £££ to DCL!
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Cruise lines used to offer cruises from San Diego or LA to Hawaii with a stop for a day in Mexico before they sailed to the islands. I am not sure how they enforce the distance foreign port. I know for a fact this cruise was offered the cruise before I took the Hawaii to Vancouver option.
Such cruises begin and end at the same US port. So the foreign port does not need to be "distant." The cruise does not terminate in Hawaii.

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I would hardly call Nassau a distant foreign port, but it qualifies enough on 3 day cruises...

There are also Alaskan cruises that depart from Seattle and go to various ports in Alaska, again with a one day token stop in Victoria or Vancouver, BC. I don't think these qualify as "distant foreign ports."
Again, Bahamas cruises from Florida and Alaska cruises from Seattle begin and end at the same port. So, again, the foreign port does not need to be "distant."

The issue is that a foreign ship can not legally cruise from Los Angeles to Honoululu, either directly or with a stop in Ensenada, if the cruise terminates at a different US port than where it started.
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Cruise lines used to offer cruises from San Diego or LA to Hawaii with a stop for a day in Mexico before they sailed to the islands. I am not sure how they enforce the distance foreign port. I know for a fact this cruise was offered the cruise before I took the Hawaii to Vancouver option.

I would hardly call Nassau a distant foreign port, but it qualifies enough on 3 day cruises...

There are also Alaskan cruises that depart from Seattle and go to various ports in Alaska, again with a one day token stop in Victoria or Vancouver, BC. I don't think these qualify as "distant foreign ports."

Horace is correct with the law he quoted. The key words are ONE WAY cruises between 2 US ports. (So the closed loop Bahamas, Caribbean Alaska and Mexican Rivera cruises don't fall under this condition.)

There is an exception to it though -- when there is no US flagged ship operating in a market, they may make an exception to the "distant foreign port". So you used to be able to do the one way LA/SD to/from Hawaii with a quick stop in Mexico. However, since NCL introduced US flagged ships to the Hawaii market, this is no longer allowed for non-US flagged ships.
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I apologize for my confusion

When I did the Hawaiian cruise I mentioned, it was before the NCL Pride of America was doing its salings. Therefore, this is my confusion.
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