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Old 01-03-2011, 08:19 PM   #211
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You are drinking too much of the Disney CoolAid. It isn't going to happen. Trust me on this. There are millions upon millions of dollars involved with this little law. Disney couldn't even get a darn pass into Glacier Bay for their Alaska cruises. What makes you think they could repeal a law that has been fought over for decades by other lines too? Disney is magical but not that magical. Go to CruiseCritic dot com and read about what others have said about this age old issue for the last 15 years of that website's existence. It's debated almost daily. Yet the rules are rules and they are not changing.

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You are drinking too much of the Disney CoolAid. It isn't going to happen. Trust me on this. There are millions upon millions of dollars involved with this little law. Disney couldn't even get a darn pass into Glacier Bay for their Alaska cruises. What makes you think they could repeal a law that has been fought over for decades by other lines too? Disney is magical but not that magical. Go to CruiseCritic dot com and read about what others have said about this age old issue for the last 15 years of that website's existence. It's debated almost daily. Yet the rules are rules and they are not changing.

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Never said they would repeal anything, just merely pointing out that where there is a will, money, and opportunities...I never say never...neither does Disney, historically.
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Old 01-04-2011, 01:49 AM   #213
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NCL once had a foreign flagged ship sailing Hawaii year-round. They stopped at on island in the Pacific (Kiribati?/Fanning Island) as their foreign port stop. This might be an option DCL is considering as it would allow them to sail round trip from Honolulu.
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Old 01-04-2011, 06:51 AM   #214
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Here is my thought on the cruise that goes to Hawaii.It will do a1 way to Hawaii from La with a stop in Ensenada. Then it will do another cruise from HNL to Vancouver and do same on the return.
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Here is my thought on the cruise that goes to Hawaii.It will do a1 way to Hawaii from La with a stop in Ensenada. Then it will do another cruise from HNL to Vancouver and do same on the return.
One-way cruises on foreign ships (such as the any of the DCL ships) between the two U.S. ports (such as Los Angeles and Honolulu) are not legal under Passenger Vessel Services Act (PVSA) of 1886 unless the itinerary also includes a distant foreign port, as defined by the PVSA. Ports in Canada and mexico do not qualify as distant foreign ports.
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One-way cruises on foreign ships (such as the any of the DCL ships) between the two U.S. ports (such as Los Angeles and Honolulu) are not legal under Passenger Vessel Services Act (PVSA) of 1886 unless the itinerary also includes a distant foreign port, as defined by the PVSA. Ports in Canada and mexico do not qualify as distant foreign ports.
Perhaps I don't know enough about cruising laws, but it seems to me that Disney could do a round trip Hawaii cruise from Seattle, with a stop in Victoria, or a round trip from LA, with a stop in Ensenada.
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Perhaps I don't know enough about cruising laws, but it seems to me that Disney could do a round trip Hawaii cruise from Seattle, with a stop in Victoria, or a round trip from LA, with a stop in Ensenada.
Yes, DCL could do closed-loop cruises from Los Angeles, with a stop in Ensenada, just long enough to satisfy the PVCA. Other cruise lines sometimes offer such cruises. Such an itinerary typically takes two weeks. It's a long distance from the West Coast to the middle of the huge Pacific Ocean with many days at sea.

Seattle via Victoria would also be legal, but the distance is even greater.

With either of the above itineraries, disembarking in Hawaii for a resort stay at Aulani would not be an option. There would be stops at several ports in Hawaii, but then the cruise ship and all her passengers would continue back to the West Coast.
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