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Old 07-29-2013, 12:46 AM   #3196
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I couldn't remember what Jacqueline had done to Tre that hurt her so bad- and then I suddenly remembered their whole feud was based on Jacqueline questioning whether Tre had sold stories to the tabloids. Move on Tre, nobody can barely remember how it started, and I'll bet you really don't either.
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Old 07-29-2013, 01:26 AM   #3197
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I couldn't remember what Jacqueline had done to Tre that hurt her so bad- and then I suddenly remembered their whole feud was based on Jacqueline questioning whether Tre had sold stories to the tabloids. Move on Tre, nobody can barely remember how it started, and I'll bet you really don't either.


Actually, it was Jacqueline telling Joey that Teresa set up the fashion show thing last year.
Now Jacqueline says those weren't her exact words but yes, they were.

For those who don't read all the stuff on the internet:

The producer for the last few years was in love with Joey/Melissa and Caroline. There are pictures and texts. Same producer not so much in love with Teresa. Jacqueline's mother drunk tweeted that Jacqueline was told by producers to dump on Teresa but her mother said she didn't want to. All of a sudden, the next season Jacqueline now hates Teresa?

The producers had set up all the "get togethers" where Teresa just happens to be there to over hear.
It was actually that same producer that text Jacqueline at the fashion show that Jacqueline refused to name.

What I find funny is Teresa is blamed for this guy showing up and saying Melissa worked for him, Teresa is blamed for Melissa's friend saying she had an affair all because Teresa was in ear shot however, for 2 years Caroline, Jacqueline, Melissa, Kathy, Richie and Joey have said nasty things about Teresa but that's ok?

I was on certain message boards just before NJ started. There were anon. posters who knew the housewives and if you read the messages now, it's obvious they were Melissa, her sisters and Ashley (Jacqueline's daughter).
Melissa was trashing Teresa then. It is highly rumored that Melissa/Joey, Kathy/Richie joined the show to bring down Teresa with that producers help. (the producer was fired for allegedly texting Jacqueline).
If you notice, the very first show Melissa/Joey/Kathy/Richie was on, Joey called Teresa garbage at the christening and Kathy accused Teresa of leaving her kids alone even though they were with the grandparents.

I personally think Melissa and Joey would sell the family for fame. I think Kathy is rethinking her original position and doesn't want this anymore. I also think the new producer has something to do with it.

I also read Caroline's tweets long ago where she wanted to do a cookbook but Teresa's sold.

Melissa did get ahold of Danielle to spill dirt on Teresa but everyone passes over that.

From what I remember about the house situation, I think Joey borrowed against his dad's house, lost it and now pays for where his dad/mom are living. So when Joey said he's paying for them to live, he's paying because he lost their house.

Supposedly Melissa's boyfriend is coming out of the woodwork. He refused to sign papers so they had to bleep out his name on the show with the friend.

I don't think Teresa is innocent, I think she can be completely nuts but I do firmly believe Melissa and Joey want fame and would do anything to get it even dumping on their own family. Melissa's sisters are horrible on twitter. They do constantly bash Teresa but Teresa's tweets usually involve her cookbook/wine stuff.
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:42 AM   #3198
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I can't imagine having so much bad blood between one family and one group of friends. It's toxic. I think it's setting such a bad example for their children. It's teaching them that its ok to treat family and friends like crap. It's amazing what people are willing to sacrifice for fame.
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:10 PM   #3199
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Theresa and Joe facing 50 years in prison?

"Real Housewives of New Jersey" stars Teresa Giudice and her husband Joe have just been slapped with a laundry list of criminal charges -- ranging from bank fraud to tax evasion -- and now, they both face more than 50 years in prison if convicted.

U.S. Attorney Paul J. Fishman just announced the 39-count indictment, claiming Teresa and her hubby massively defrauded the IRS as well as several banks between 2001-2008.

According to the U.S. Attorney, the Giudices conspired to illegally obtain mortgages and other loans from multiple banks by intentionally overestimating their incomes in order to get more money.

The Giudices also allegedly withheld vital information about their net worth from a U.S. bankruptcy trustee after filing for Chapter 7 in 2009 ---- including Teresa's true income from the reality show.

As for tax evasion, Joe is accused of failing to file income tax returns for the years 2004-2008, during which he allegedly earned $1 million.

All told, the Giudices were hit with 39 charges -- including conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud, which carries a max prison sentence of 20 years, and bank fraud, which carries a max of 30 years. The remaining charges carry the possibility of even more prison time.

Neither Teresa nor Joe has been arrested, but they're both due in court Tuesday morning in Jersey.



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Old 07-29-2013, 03:26 PM   #3200
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Another article on Joe and Teresa

YOU READ IT HERE FIRST: A 39-count federal indictment returned today charges Teresa and Joe Giudice of “The Real Housewives of New Jersey” with mortgage fraud, as well as attempts to hide assets in bankruptcy proceedings.

Grand jurors said Teresa Giudice, 41, and Giuseppe “Joe” Giudice, 43, both of Towaco, conspired to commit mail and wire fraud, bank fraud by making false statements on loan applications, along with bankruptcy fraud.

It also charges Giuseppe Giudice with failure to file tax returns for tax years 2004 through 2008 on nearly $1 million of income.

“The indictment returned today alleges the Guidices lied to the bankruptcy court, to the IRS and to a number of banks,” U.S. Attorney Paul J. Fishman said. “Everyone has an obligation to tell the truth when dealing with the courts, paying their taxes and applying for loans or mortgages.

“That’s reality.”

Both are scheduled for appearances in U.S. District Court in Newark tomorrow morning.

Joe Giudice already is facing a state prosecution of using his brother’s identification to get a driver’s license because he had his suspended after a DUI.

According to the federal indictment, the Bravo television show couple submitted bogus mortgage and other loan applications and supporting documents for seven years, beginning in 2001, that “falsely represented that they were employed and/or receiving substantial salaries when, in fact, they were either not employed or not receiving such salaries.”

For example, it says, Teresa Giudice applied for a mortgage loan of $121,500 in September 2001 “for which she submitted a loan application that falsely claimed that she was employed as an executive assistant. She also submitted fake W-2 Forms and fake paystubs purportedly issued by her employer.”

The indictment also cites specific instances of alleged bank and loan application fraud.

On Oct. 29, 2009, the Giudices filed a petition for individual Chapter 7 bankruptcy protection in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Newark. Over the next few months, the indictment says, they filed several amendments to the bankruptcy petition.

As part of the bankruptcy filings, the Giudices were required to disclose to the government trustee, among other things, assets, liabilities, income, and any anticipated increase in income. The indictment alleges that they “intentionally concealed businesses they owned, income they received from a rental property, and Teresa Giudice’s true income from the television show.”

They also hid income from website sales and personal and magazine appearances, it says.

What’s more, the government says, the Giudices “concealed their anticipated increase in income from the then-upcoming Season Two of the Bravo television show.”

Technically, federal conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud count carries a maximum potential penalty of 20 years of in prison and a $250,000 fine – although a guilty plea or conviction would bring far less than that.

The same applies to the fraud counts, which carry maximum prison terms of up to 30 years and $1 million in fines.

The bankruptcy fraud offenses can each bring up to five years in a federal penitentiary and a $250,000 fine, while failing to file a tax return exposes those convicted to up a year in prison and $100,000 in fines.

Fishman credited special agents of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Office of Inspector General, New York Region; special agents of IRS-Criminal Investigation; Region 3 U.S. Trustee Roberta DeAngelis and the Newark office of the U.S. Trustee, with the investigation that led to today’s indictment.

The case is being handled by Assistant U.S. Attorneys Jonathan W. Romankow and Rachael Honig.

Defense attorneys Miles Feinstein (Giuseppe Giudice) and Henry Klingeman (Teresa Giudice) are representing the couple.

“The privilege of living well in the United States carries certain real responsibilities, including filing tax returns when required and paying the correct amount of tax,” said Shantelle P. Kitchen, Special Agent in Charge of the Newark office of IRS-Criminal Investigation.

A. Derek Evans, who heads the FDIC Office of Inspector General, added that “the American people need to be assured that their government is working to ensure integrity in the financial services and housing industries and that those involved in criminal misconduct that undermines that integrity will be held accountable.”
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:42 PM   #3201
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Wow Joe Guidice actually made sense.
From the conversations both Giudice and Chris were having with their wives, its pretty obvious they miss each other. Oh, and he brought the wine they had made together. It seems like they just want their wives to get over it so they can hang out again.
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:43 PM   #3202
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YOU READ IT HERE FIRST: A 39-count federal indictment returned today charges Teresa and Joe Giudice of “The Real Housewives of New Jersey” with mortgage fraud, as well as attempts to hide assets in bankruptcy proceedings.

Grand jurors said Teresa Giudice, 41, and Giuseppe “Joe” Giudice, 43, both of Towaco, conspired to commit mail and wire fraud, bank fraud by making false statements on loan applications, along with bankruptcy fraud.

It also charges Giuseppe Giudice with failure to file tax returns for tax years 2004 through 2008 on nearly $1 million of income.

“The indictment returned today alleges the Guidices lied to the bankruptcy court, to the IRS and to a number of banks,” U.S. Attorney Paul J. Fishman said. “Everyone has an obligation to tell the truth when dealing with the courts, paying their taxes and applying for loans or mortgages.

“That’s reality.”

Both are scheduled for appearances in U.S. District Court in Newark tomorrow morning.

Joe Giudice already is facing a state prosecution of using his brother’s identification to get a driver’s license because he had his suspended after a DUI.

According to the federal indictment, the Bravo television show couple submitted bogus mortgage and other loan applications and supporting documents for seven years, beginning in 2001, that “falsely represented that they were employed and/or receiving substantial salaries when, in fact, they were either not employed or not receiving such salaries.”

For example, it says, Teresa Giudice applied for a mortgage loan of $121,500 in September 2001 “for which she submitted a loan application that falsely claimed that she was employed as an executive assistant. She also submitted fake W-2 Forms and fake paystubs purportedly issued by her employer.”

The indictment also cites specific instances of alleged bank and loan application fraud.

On Oct. 29, 2009, the Giudices filed a petition for individual Chapter 7 bankruptcy protection in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Newark. Over the next few months, the indictment says, they filed several amendments to the bankruptcy petition.

As part of the bankruptcy filings, the Giudices were required to disclose to the government trustee, among other things, assets, liabilities, income, and any anticipated increase in income. The indictment alleges that they “intentionally concealed businesses they owned, income they received from a rental property, and Teresa Giudice’s true income from the television show.”

They also hid income from website sales and personal and magazine appearances, it says.

What’s more, the government says, the Giudices “concealed their anticipated increase in income from the then-upcoming Season Two of the Bravo television show.”

Technically, federal conspiracy to commit mail and wire fraud count carries a maximum potential penalty of 20 years of in prison and a $250,000 fine – although a guilty plea or conviction would bring far less than that.

The same applies to the fraud counts, which carry maximum prison terms of up to 30 years and $1 million in fines.

The bankruptcy fraud offenses can each bring up to five years in a federal penitentiary and a $250,000 fine, while failing to file a tax return exposes those convicted to up a year in prison and $100,000 in fines.

Fishman credited special agents of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Office of Inspector General, New York Region; special agents of IRS-Criminal Investigation; Region 3 U.S. Trustee Roberta DeAngelis and the Newark office of the U.S. Trustee, with the investigation that led to today’s indictment.

The case is being handled by Assistant U.S. Attorneys Jonathan W. Romankow and Rachael Honig.

Defense attorneys Miles Feinstein (Giuseppe Giudice) and Henry Klingeman (Teresa Giudice) are representing the couple.

“The privilege of living well in the United States carries certain real responsibilities, including filing tax returns when required and paying the correct amount of tax,” said Shantelle P. Kitchen, Special Agent in Charge of the Newark office of IRS-Criminal Investigation.

A. Derek Evans, who heads the FDIC Office of Inspector General, added that “the American people need to be assured that their government is working to ensure integrity in the financial services and housing industries and that those involved in criminal misconduct that undermines that integrity will be held accountable.”
Wow. That's some serious stuff.
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From the conversations both Giudice and Chris were having with their wives, its pretty obvious they miss each other. Oh, and he brought the wine they had made together. It seems like they just want their wives to get over it so they can hang out again.
I thought bringing the wine was a really sweet gesture.
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:52 PM   #3204
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My GAWD, Honny! Wow!

Fist of all thanks for the article.

But secondly how can two adults who are also parents to FOUR children act with such ignorance when it comes to their finances???? Forget ignorance insert the word CRIMINALS????

HOLY TOLDEO!

I wonder if there will be cameras on them tomorrow as they enter the Newark Courtroom???
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My GAWD, Honny! Wow!

Fist of all thanks for the article.

But secondly how can two adults who are also parents to FOUR children act with such ignorance when it comes to their finances???? Forget ignorance insert the word CRIMINALS????

HOLY TOLDEO!

I wonder if there will be cameras on them tomorrow as they enter the Newark Courtroom???
Right?!?!?

Their poor daughters.

Karma is a ***** if Melissa gets the kids.
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My GAWD, Honny! Wow!

Fist of all thanks for the article.

But secondly how can two adults who are also parents to FOUR children act with such ignorance when it comes to their finances???? Forget ignorance insert the word CRIMINALS????

HOLY TOLDEO!

I wonder if there will be cameras on them tomorrow as they enter the Newark Courtroom???
From my understanding, Chris, Jacqueline, Joey and Melissa are next with their cases of fraud with money.

Also, Chris, Jacqueline and Joey are being brought up with assault charges for a fight later in the season.
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From my understanding, Chris, Jacqueline, Joey and Melissa are next with their cases of fraud with money.

Also, Chris, Jacqueline and Joey are being brought up with assault charges for a fight later in the season.
Truly unbelievable.

Will Bravo be a part of any of this? Mostly the assault charges? Who filed those?
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My GAWD, Honny! Wow!

Fist of all thanks for the article.

But secondly how can two adults who are also parents to FOUR children act with such ignorance when it comes to their finances???? Forget ignorance insert the word CRIMINALS????
It's called being a narcissist.
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They really are...I am not surprised by anything that happens to any of them....When you live your life like that you get everything you deserve.
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They really are...I am not surprised by anything that happens to any of them....When you live your life like that you get everything you deserve.
Exactly! Not only are they narcissists, they are stupid ones at that! Who commits tax evasions and then goes on a reality show?? Duh!
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