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Old 05-09-2010, 11:29 AM   #61
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That's an interesting read (the link). Some good discussion points, and some ridiculous and almost condescending ones as well. Even the most cynical Debbie Downer is stretching to warn people about long lines. I was surprised there wasn't a section faulting the June 18th opening date by warning people that Florida has a tendency to be hot in the summer.

And implying that the changing price cost of the Express pass is "gouging" in the same theme park industry in which restaurants at Disney raise their prices "due to guest demand" on heavier traffic periods? That's a bit much.
I'm not trying to find fault in anything, it's just again based completely on rumors that have been heard here as well as other discussion boards and threads. The price issue is one that many people have in the theme park world, Disney, Universal, and even your regional theme parks. It's something that we accept and take as "part of theme park business" yet apply that to other things such as gas, and hurricane supplies in hurricane season and we call it gouging.
You seem to be taking offense to the article, and it was clearly meant to inform not to offend, especially when we see so many people on these boards and others all over hoping to do things such as "meet the cast of Harry Potter" or see the "Harry Potter theme park". Cynical, hell yeah...condescending...not intended.
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Old 05-09-2010, 11:44 AM   #62
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I'm not trying to find fault in anything, it's just again based completely on rumors that have been heard here as well as other discussion boards and threads. The price issue is one that many people have in the theme park world, Disney, Universal, and even your regional theme parks. It's something that we accept and take as "part of theme park business" yet apply that to other things such as gas, and hurricane supplies in hurricane season and we call it gouging.
You seem to be taking offense to the article, and it was clearly meant to inform not to offend, especially when we see so many people on these boards and others all over hoping to do things such as "meet the cast of Harry Potter" or see the "Harry Potter theme park". Cynical, hell yeah...condescending...not intended.
I enjoyed the article, I just found it very one-sided and looked at the worst of every situation without even a nod to "the counter point." I understand your point about the Express price fluctuations, but I think presented fairly, Disney fans would do anything for something like that to be available at the parks. And from what I can tell, using a Express pass on the Forbidden Journey would be a waste. It appears the insanely immersive environment of that ride is that the queue itself is part of the attraction. Disney seems to be fine with just throwing video games up to distract their captive audience, but Universal - it appears - has put together a ride in which the queue may be just as special as the ride itself.

Maybe theme park fans are so used to Disney phoning it in on ride queues that they don't understand just how good Universal is at it. And as good as Spider-man and The Mummy are, the environment and experience for the Forbidden Journey looks to blow them away. Using a fast pass on it would be like skipping to the final chapter of a great book. It's the journey to that point that makes the ending so great.
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Old 05-09-2010, 12:49 PM   #63
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I enjoyed the article, I just found it very one-sided and looked at the worst of every situation without even a nod to "the counter point." I understand your point about the Express price fluctuations, but I think presented fairly, Disney fans would do anything for something like that to be available at the parks. And from what I can tell, using a Express pass on the Forbidden Journey would be a waste. It appears the insanely immersive environment of that ride is that the queue itself is part of the attraction. Disney seems to be fine with just throwing video games up to distract their captive audience, but Universal - it appears - has put together a ride in which the queue may be just as special as the ride itself.

Maybe theme park fans are so used to Disney phoning it in on ride queues that they don't understand just how good Universal is at it. And as good as Spider-man and The Mummy are, the environment and experience for the Forbidden Journey looks to blow them away. Using a fast pass on it would be like skipping to the final chapter of a great book. It's the journey to that point that makes the ending so great.
While I agree and understand, there are plenty of people who, while they've never really experienced Universal queues and are used to disney phoning it in, they don't care. They don't want to wait in line. So therefore they will be disappointed.
And is it a bit one side? Sure, I can say that, because instead of focusing on the positives, we focused on the negatives of what people may have false pretenses on. The biggest being that Universal is selling this as a theme park, when in reality there are only three rides.
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Wow, that was a VERY harsh article and made a LOT of assumptions.

I think it needs to be looked at this way:

When was the last time Disney has opened an entire themed land based on a single "franchise" at WDW?

I mean, after MGM studios opened, they didn't have much in the park and then they opened an attraction after a franchise that's arguably as popular when it opened as HP is now....Star Wars...and it was one single ride with a whole bunch of very cramped theming and exits to a gift shop.

Still, people weren't upset, they didn't walk out, they were happy to see the revolutionary, breakthrough attraction.

Universal is opening MUCH more than that and I think it's way too early to make assumptions about guest reaction, and I honestly think while yes, there will be some problems especially for the first few weeks, they'll get through them smoothly after that and be a great addition to IOA.
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After reading the article again, I think it's a blatant attempt to get some publicity for the site by having an extremely controversial article right before all of the hype of the opening.

There are so many points I could contest it's not even funny.
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After reading the article again, I think it's a blatant attempt to get some publicity for the site by having an extremely controversial article right before all of the hype of the opening.

There are so many points I could contest it's not even funny.
Please contest it then. Again if you read it as close as you said you would see that it waswritten based off of rumors that have been posted here and other sites. And why do you find it so offensive? It's not like I'm trying to stir up anti-universal sentiment. I'm showing the other side that is there.
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WOW! Angry, bitter- someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Was that an article or an editorial opinion? Doesn't change how exicited I am to go back to Universal, just makes me feel sorry for someone who seems to only see the negative side of things.
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Again if you read it as close as you said you would see that it waswritten based off of rumors that have been posted here and other sites.
So you are bascially saying you did no research, that you plagiarized information posted by other people.

If you are going to write an article, make sure that you can take the criticism as well as the praise.

If you would have waited until after June 18th to write something like this then it would make sense to go back to rumors and identify which ones came true.....did people have a horrible experience, were hotel guests able to get in early or just those with a package.
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Harry Potter and the Angry Tourists

The entire world is closely watching Universal Orlando. Something is lurking behind walls and in the trees of the Orlando theme park, something magical, something that the world is waiting to have revealed. Rumors are circulating, like a Dementor around the eternal spot of happiness, that Universal is not ready to deal with what they have created and while the whole world is going to be watching, they are going to drop the ball and have a large crowd walking away from their parks in disappointment.
Although this paragraph has the term "rumors" based in it, the term seems glossed over and the article is stated as if this is an inevitable outcome, and no argument is made against that point.

The article starts out with the idea that "something magical" is waiting to be revealed, yet nothing is really said about the actual attraction being as forward thinking and state-of-the-art as they come. The attraction, by all accounts is going to be as unique and awe-inspiring as Spiderman when it first opened.

The rumors are circulating that they may not have as much capacity as they expect, but that won't turn people away, it hasn't turned people away from other Disney attractions (3 hour waits for Soarin') or Six Flags attractions (4 hour waits for Kingda Ka), and Harry Potter fans seem to be some of the most devoted in a long time. They've waited over a decade for a type of experience like this.

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Ever since it's inception, Universal has billed the Wizarding World of Harry Potter as a "Theme Park within a Theme Park". While most of us who go to theme parks on a regular basis know this simply means a new section of the park, we have been inundated with questions about the "New Harry Potter theme park". Most of the people going for Harry Potter are not traditionally park folk. Sure they love the mouse, and they enjoy their regional amusement park, but they hardly live and breathe theme parks like a lot do. We have received questions from several readers, and newspapers(read here, here and here) asking all about the new theme park. "Where is the new theme park?" "What is the cost?" and "How many new rides will the new park have?" are all among the questions we've been getting. Universal has the world sold on the image of a whole big theme park filled to the brim with wizards and witches, dragons and butterbeer. The truth couldn't be further from that image.
A marketing ploy, to be sure, but if we're considering that people will be doing absolutely NO research before they arrive, then they will probably not enjoy themselves as much....just like people who fly to Disney during the week of Christmas, then complain they didn't get to see anything because you can't even move.

The media has taken the idea and ran with it. Universal may have shot themselves in the foot a bit by that percentage who will drive or fly down, show up at the gate and wonder why they can't buy a ticket to get into the Harry Potter Park, but people who actually do any in depth reading and understanding of things (as you're urging people to do in this article) would know better.

Again, Disney overhypes things all the time...most of their new attractions are hyped like their latest "E-Ticket" and they haven't come along with anything this size in a long time.

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The Wizarding World of Hary Potter(WWOHP) will be a new themed area that used to sit on another themed area. WWoHP sits on the site of the old Lost Continent area that Universal ripped apart to make room for this new area. The whole area is about a 1/4 mile long and you can walk through it in about two minutes...that is you COULD walk through it if the streets weren't going to be filled with people. The area will host three rides, only one of which is new. The other two are going to be existing rides that have be re-themed. The main attraction will be "Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey" which will be housed in a building underneath Hogwarts castle. The tagline "theme park within a theme park" has sold Harry Potter, but it has sold it as something it's not, and it may end up backfiring on the park.
Wow, this section is very cynical, I don't even know where to begin...

Universal decided to gamble big on Harry Potter because ever since its opening, IOA has failed to be marketed correctly and failed to attract the market that was expected. This means that most people who have visited will go again and gladly ride the "Dragon" coasters again and will be happy to see all of the other new stuff.

And those people who haven't seen it yet will be noticing a brand new experience...because let's face it, Universal really NEEDS those people and is targeting those people who haven't visited before. I think it's a reach to say that people who have been to IOA will feel "robbed" that they've rethemed 2 coasters when there's a lot more to do in the area.

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While we are on the subject of the attractions, let's go over what people will see when they arrive in the "theme park within a theme park". Universal boasts there will be several new shops and three new attractions. Three new attractions. Actually if you want to get technical about it, one new attraction and two rethemed coasters. Universal is hoping to lure over the mouse crowd with what is the biggest selling book series and one of the largest movie franchises of all time. It's actually working as Universal has been giving tours of the area and exclusive invites to Disney fansites. This gets the webmasters to talk highly of the new area and therefore get their readers excited about it. Traditionally a lot of the folks who love the mouse stay around the Magic Kingdom because of the "family friendly attractions that accomodate Pooh size guests". Very rarely do they step out of this comfort zone because for them, it's about things they can do as a
family. With two coasters and a ride on a robot arm that swirls you around every which way, these people are going to go running with mouse ears firmly in hand back to the land of pixie dust.
A lot of information said here, but nothing of substance, Universal sent info to the Disney fansites, and those who went were excited about it. That's a plus. Sure, it may be nice to joke about the "pooh sized" guests at WDW, but somehow even with all of those people, some of the most popular rides at WDW are Everest, Rock 'n Roller Coaster, Tower of Terror, Dinosaur...those are intense rides. Sure, there will be some people disappointed, that is inevitable, but to pinpoint a certain population of "pooh sized" guests is not what Universal is doing...they're just getting as much exposure to the Orlando area as possible, not to mention a market of Harry Potter fanatics who may not have come to Orlando otherwise.

The Harry Potter series, while it is aimed at a younger audience is hardly nice fairy tales.

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And more to the rides, Hogwarts Castle is the centerpiece of the park. Many guests can be overheard saying "I can't wait to go inside that castle." Sure, it looks amazing, and after all the concept art shows you walking right through the front gates and into the courtyard of the castle. Reality of it is, it's just a shell sitting ontop of a larger building. Unlike the other Orlando Castle (Cinderellas Castle at Magic Kingdom) you will not be able to browse through it. The ride will empty out into a gift shop but like Cinderellas castle you won't be able to have dinner, browse swords or (for the super select) stay the night in the castle.
Hogwart's Castle may be a facade, but people going "inside" will not know the difference from everything I've seen. You may want to burst the bubble of everyone who's ever ventured into the Haunted Mansion for the past 40 years also...it's also a facade. The actual ride building is the huge structure behind it.

It's interesting to have such knowledge of the inner workings of the attraction, when some of it still isn't complete...everyone who has seen parts of the inside of the castle (sorry, the fake inniards of the fake castle) seemed very impressed, and wowed by the things like moving portraits they didn't expect to be so true to the movies.

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Dragons Challenge and Flight of the Hippogriff are rethemes of existing rides. From what we've seen they've taken and somewhat improved upon Flying Unicorn, going from just a stable with a box and some speakers to a full blown hut with all kinds of magical creatures inside. dragons, however, is a different story. From what we've seen of the new "dragons Challenge" they've taken all the skulls, melted nights, spiderwebs and frozen horses out of it. We are told that it will be appropriate to the ride, but somehow I doubt that. The queue line for Dueling dragons made you sad that you were going to ride a coaster instead of a living breathing dragon.
Yes, we get it already, 2 rides are re-themes of existing attractions..ok

Its quite interesting to refer to the Flying Unicorn like that....there was a LOT of theming to that stable with a box and speakers...but I digress. We don't know what Universal fully has up their sleeves for the Dragon's Challenge queue yet, but I'm sure they will be able to theme it appropriately. I'm still not sure what led to the expectation that Universal is going to seriously mis-calculate this massive gamble on their part, and not theme the queue properly for Dragon Challenge when we've already seen how impressive parts of the Forbidden Journey queue are.

Do you expect to see a line where you can cross and say "yep, that's where the budget ran out"?

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The shops, well, we've seen this area before and the shops look to be a bit on the crowded together side. We've heard that most of the shops are going to be interactive, and that means a lot of people standing around trying to wait for things to happen. The wand shop will be the most cramped with tons of people trying to let their "wands choose the wizard" to the tune of $30(ish) to upwards around $100 dollars. This interactive experience is said to be an intimate one, so expect the lines for this to be huge. While we're on the subject of lines.
I agree, I think the shops do look smaller than they should be, and there will probably be crowding issues during busy times....BUT I haven't been in them yet to know for sure.

I do think the initial summer months will be quite overcapacity, but I also think that most people going to see the hyped up land will be expecting it also.


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Express and Discounts

This part has been 100% confirmed with the hotel reservations line. Prior to this article I did call the hotel line to ask what the prices were, and more specifically about the Express situation, doesn't mean exactly this is what they'll do but this is what they are being told to say for now. Universal Orlando has their version of Disney's "Fastpass" system which allows you to skip the lines and gain entry through your own special entrance. Unlike Disney's system, you have no time frame that you have to do this in. Also unlike Disney's system, this is not free. You have to pay for the "privilege" of not waiting in line. You also only get to use it once per ride. The price ranges depending on how busy it is expected to be with prices starting at $20 for the slow days to as much as $50 on the busy days. You call it price gouging, Universal calls it supply and demand. Here's where the staying at the hotels has their advantage. If you stay at one of the
three onsite hotels your room key acts as an unlimited Express Pass. While on the phone, I asked about the Wizarding World attractions and I was informed "you're going to be able to use your express on two attractions, not on Forbidden Journey". Not Forbidden Journey? That will be the one attraction everyone is staying on site to see. Let's face it, you have a bunch of shops and two coasters that have been rethemed, and you're not letting your paying customers use their "privilege" for your most anticipated ride? Wow.
The Express Pass system isn't new and hasn't been rolled out specially for the Wizarding World.

The issue of charging for an Express Pass is a separate argument in my mind and does not change just because there's now an extra land open at IOA.

The other thing to note is that the Forbidden Journey attraction is going to be a full experience within the queue, so having a fastpass would allow people to just go on the ride, but shouldn't we be expecting more of that, from any "top" attraction, that the experience should begin in the queue and be an integral part of the experience. Often it's been noted that people who are able to use fastpass or express pass exclusively can miss out on key elements of the story.

In this case there is a fundamental struggle between the creative people who run the Imagineering or Universal Creative departments, and the marketing types who want to give people perks. Don't forget, the reason that Disney offers the Fastpass is so people would have more time to buy souvenirs at their gift shops everywhere. Yes, I think after the attraction has been open for a while, they will change the rules so express pass will be available for it, and by that time, people will have seen the "full experience" and can choose to do just the ride itself.



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That's not where it ends either. Upon further asking we were told that Passholder and Florida resident rates were not available for the time of grand opening either. Even more, we have heard rumors that if you are a passholder (or thinking about becoming one) you will not receive a discount on anything within in the Wizarding World. No 10% off on wands, Butterbeer or chocolate frogs for you. Like Disney, Universal seems to be shrinking the amount of items they offer discounts for.
Ok, they aren't discounting things when it first opens, I'd still opt to take a wait and see approach. Besides, they may be hedging their bets on crowds and capacities and hoping that the AP holders will want to wait until later in the year to visit.

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Grand Opening Closed

While on the phone with the hotel reservations line, we learned that Royal Pacific was sold out and Hard Rock was close to selling out on the 17th of June, and they expected the same for the 18th as well. The whole world will be watching and many of them will be in the park trying to get a glimpse at all of the celebrities and have a first ride on the new attraction. There's just one problem. We've heard that while there will be a grand opening celebration, the general public will not be allowed into the Wizarding World to view it. Only select members of the media including a few websites were invited and will have the chance to rub elbows with the entire cast of all the films, and the area will also be closed for most of the day if not all day. If you stop and think about it, this makes a lot of sense as there will be so many people in that area that you're not going to be able to breathe let alone ride anything, watch any of the shows or talk to any of
the VIPs. Try again on the 19th.

I know what you're thinking, "Universal couldn't do that, so many people will be disappointed!"

They can, and most likely will. Case in point, they started selling Grand Opening Weekend packages for the last weekend in May. Then the June 18th announcement came and no one gave word to the thousands of people who already purchased their packages, until of course one of the very select groups of media went through and one of them asked.

"Visitors who have purchased those will receive everything that was promised", Tom Schroder, head of PR at Universal has said in an article from the Orlando Sentinel.

But they were being sold as being "GRAND OPENING" packages. It doesn't really matter though, as long as they get what they are promised. If you think about it though, this is the first time the area will be open to the public. You know what they call that? Soft Openings. They will still have bugs and will try and work them out. Not something that is indicitave of a Grand Opening to me.
This is also not a unique thing to theme parks, there are often times where an attraction will be open long before the official "grand opening"...however that does not mean everything will be incomplete or not up to running condition before then, it's just the day when they've been able to bring all of the celebrities and media together for their big photo-op.


So, to make an assumption that anyone going before June 18th will be disappointed is just plain guessing. Are there reports of anything behind schedule? Catastrophic failures of ride mechanisms? Anything like that?

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We are not trying to discourage you from going to the park or to avoid it altogether. We are just trying to inform everyone who has been taken in by the hype of the whole grand event to what you may expect. At this point these are just rumors and could possibly be simply that, but too many times parks have done things like this. In fact we've tried to allow Universal a chance to either confirm or deny and clear up these rumors, but our queries have gone unanswered.
I think this is the most hilarious part...Here's all of the unconfirmed reasons why the opening is going to completely suck for everyone involved, but we don't want to discourage you from going.

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Regardless the full Wizarding World Of Harry Potter is scheduled to start daily operations on June 19th, aside from the huge Grand Opening.
So, basically this editorial contains a lot of what-ifs taken to the most extreme degree, and other than the first half of the first paragraph, nowhere is there anything postive about the new land.
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While I don't agree with every point Erik makes (I have no problem with the three rides all being thrill rides, assuming you even consider Flying Unicorn a "thrill" ride--the target audience for HP is at least 8+), he makes a couple good points.

The crowds will be insane. I heard a month or two ago there were plans for switchbacks outside the stores, and I heard another TM compare the stores to those at the UK pavillion in EPCOT. Crowds and 2 hour lines for rides are typical in Orlando--I'm not sure guests are ready to wait 45 minutes just to go in a candy store or browse a T-shirt shop. This is a new definition of "crowded" and I don't know that Universal is ready to handle it.

As for the Express Pass, sure, it's gouging, but it's been done for HHN so long I don't even notice anymore. (A peak weekend XP for HHN will set you back the cost of another ticket.) But doing away with the AP discount just seems chintzy. Granted, Disney doesn't offer any sort of discount except when the economy tanks, but it just seems very petty and cheap on Uni's part.

Not directly on point, but throwing it out there for discussion...did Disney have the right idea back when they thought they had the rights? Would HP have worked better as a "botique" park with more interaction and fewer guests per day?
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So, to make an assumption that anyone going before June 18th will be disappointed is just plain guessing. Are there reports of anything behind schedule? Catastrophic failures of ride mechanisms? Anything like that?

I think this is the most hilarious part...Here's all of the unconfirmed reasons why the opening is going to completely suck for everyone involved, but we don't want to discourage you from going.

So, basically this editorial contains a lot of what-ifs taken to the most extreme degree, and other than the first half of the first paragraph, nowhere is there anything postive about the new land.
In my line of work there are delays, I schedule construction of all types. There are always contract dates and financial penalties for missing those dates. It doesn't always mean the company will finish with out finacial penalties but it usually means an opening or grand ceremony with events will take place on the published date.

Keeping that in mind I booked a condo and a full week in June for my three children's birthdays thinking the date of May 28th was the opening day. I am in no way linked to the WWOHP construction but as I said I am familiar with scheduling construction. Some unexpected engineering, manufacturing and availability of mateirals can play a huge part in delays.

A catastrophic delay would be that my children will be in the park but not able to ride the rides and experience the entire WWOHP for the limited time we are in Florida.

Yes, there are people who have booked packages and have not been informed of anything other than they will be given park tickets to come back another day. Sorry, but not everyone who wants to bring their family to the park can afford to make travel arrangements at another time. I am scared to death the opening will be a half opening and my children will miss out on their one and only birthday present! We skipped presents and everything so far because they understand we are going to WWOHP and looking at the Map every evening now that the birthdays are coming. I have already spent around $3,000 for this vacation and there is no way in this economy that I can pay for travel, lodging and pet care again later this year. Not to mention my children are in school and a trip to an amusement park during low season would not be an excused absence. The penalty here is $300 per day plus retention in the same grade.

I didn't receive any sort of communication of the Grand Opening date. I just happened to be at a Girl Scout event when another mother said "Oh, that's right you won't be here since you will be in Florida. Did you hear? The Grand Opening date is now June 18th." My heart just about stopped. I had no communications. I had absolutely no idea! $3,000 for birthdays and I had no idea! I was floored!

When I called Universal to make sure we could still use our park tickets, meal deals, sipper cups, etc. There was no appology for not letting me know. The very first email I ever received regarding the WWOHP was May 10th. I have signed up for every email update they have on the web site. When I opened the email today I signed up again. When I went through the map I signed up. When I made my reservations I signed up. We have half a week to sit and wait until the opening day.

The guy who took my call did thank me for making plans that were after the May 28th date. He was really relieved to hear that he didn't have to make amends or appolgies for another miss. Keep in mind the person you talk to on the phone is not your enemy. They only know what they are told and really do not make enough money to hear you yell, scream or use profanity. They don't have any control over when things happen or don't happen. If you have a real beef with your trip explain it calmly to the person on the phone then write a letter. Send the letter via email or snail mail a few days after you have read it and thought about how you sound and would it really accomplish your goal?

I did not read this out dated article as discouraging customers but as a heads up to the general public. Sure some of it sounded as though they wanted you to skip the experience but come on. Did anyone really cancel their plans because of this article? I didn't even read it until today and it was old news. I read it to find out if there is anything else I need to know. Being a planner and scheduler I need to know everything. Still there are some things about our visit to Universal that are unknown. I have never been to Universal before so I don't even know where to go for what. I am not even sure about what the Meal Deal covers. I do know it covers certain restaurants and you can only fill up your sipper cups at those locations.

Why am I so concerned about the little details of the Meal Deal? I thought I would be informed about the big things envolved with my vacation that revolves completely around WWOHP which I was not and that leads me to worry about the little things....
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Old 05-11-2010, 01:09 AM   #72
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The crowds will be insane. I heard a month or two ago there were plans for switchbacks outside the stores, and I heard another TM compare the stores to those at the UK pavillion in EPCOT. Crowds and 2 hour lines for rides are typical in Orlando--I'm not sure guests are ready to wait 45 minutes just to go in a candy store or browse a T-shirt shop. This is a new definition of "crowded" and I don't know that Universal is ready to handle it.

Not directly on point, but throwing it out there for discussion...did Disney have the right idea back when they thought they had the rights? Would HP have worked better as a "botique" park with more interaction and fewer guests per day?
I worry about the crowds at the shops as this is a main attraction. Even though my children and I have 2 maybe 3 days in the park (we have 4 day tickets but have to leave for home that Sunday) I don't think we will have an enjoyable trip through the shops. I love taking pictures of everything we do as a family but I cannot imagine getting a real picture of us or anything we do in WWOHP. I would hope for some space but think that part of the park will be totally compacted with guests.
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No Meal Deal at Three Broomstickes

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Does anyone know if the Three Broomsricks is going to be part of the Meal Deal that Universal has?

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We have the Meal Deal and I did ask about the Three Broomsticks. The answer was No. There will be no restaurants or vendors who participate in the Meal Deal or Sipper Cups in the WWOHP. This means for each meal my family and I will have to leave the area and return after we finish. It also means before re-entering the WWOHP we will need to fill up our Sipper Cups.
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suposeddly there wont be soda at all in the WWoHP, but I guess they wont kick you out if you bring soda in from another land hah
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Old 05-11-2010, 01:18 PM   #75
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We have the Meal Deal and I did ask about the Three Broomsticks. The answer was No. There will be no restaurants or vendors who participate in the Meal Deal or Sipper Cups in the WWOHP. This means for each meal my family and I will have to leave the area and return after we finish. It also means before re-entering the WWOHP we will need to fill up our Sipper Cups.
To be fair, it's not like that's going to be a terribly long walk.
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