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Old 03-19-2010, 09:09 AM   #76
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The First Full Day - Saturday March 6

Before I get into our Saturday events, I thought I'd get into a few details about the drive down. There is usually a lot of debate on the Transportation board regarding the cost of flying vs. driving.
For us, we would have to buy 4 plane tickets. With some research and work, you can find flights from Milwaukee to Orlando for around $1200. Plus we would have to pay someone to watch the dogs. A professional boarder was around $200. With Bambi's parents down there, we wouldn't have to rent a car so that cost was never factored in. However, our van seats all 6 of us, neither of their cars have that much capacity, so every time we would go some where, it would be in two vehicles. I just realized there are like 4 comas in that last sentence and all of you English major are gnashing your teeth. But I'm too lazy to go back and fix it.
Since we drive like lunatics straight through the night, we don't have a hotel cost. We pack a picnic lunch and breakfast items. Things like Bagelfuls and Uncrustable sandwiches travel well in a cooler. Plus string cheese and beef snack sticks. Yeah, big surprise - the Wisconsinites brought cheese and sausage. Stop the presses. So really, or only cost was gas and one meal. And scented baby wipes and Fabreeze, but we'll remember to pack our own next time.
Total driving cost for the way down:$157.74 (Gas) + $24.14 (Steak n Shake, Lakeland, FL) + $8.79 (Yak supplies) = $190.67.
So financially, we come out ahead. Whether the value of the time it takes is worth the additional cost is up to you.

So, on with Saturday! The two times we've driven down, we always plan our first full day there as a relaxing day with no schedule bearing down on us. The kids get to just hang out and play with their grandparents, whom they haven't seen in quite a while

We started out with a nice, nutritious breakfast.




Hey - they have palm trees around the sign. It must be a classy place! Plus it was in the same parking lot at the hotel that bills itself as the spring training home of the Detroit Tigers. Just think, I could have clogged my arteries on butter soaked waffles in the same booth that Jim Leyland chain smokes in!

We then drove around Lakeland a little bit and looked at the lakes on our way to a park called Common Ground. This is a very nice playground with a lot of money and time spent in putting it together. I wish I would have taken a few broad overview pictures, but you can get an idea of how cool it is by this aerial picture from the City of Lakeland's website:









Rolling down the hill


I've got too many swirling around in my head to come up with a clear, concise (and funny as hell) caption for this one, so we'll have a caption contest. Please post your caption(s). A winner will be selected and awarded absolutely nothing.


Belly Slide!




After playing for a while, we headed back to Grandma & Grandpa's house to decorate some cupcakes. They had bought a Princess & The Frog cookbook and this idea was in there. Grandma had baked the cupcakes the day before so everything was ready for the kids.

You see that stuff around Evan's lips? That's called "evidence"






A little fishing:


They were using this bucket as a live well for the ones that they caught



After cupcakes, the kids got the rest of their Christmas presents from Grandma & Grandpa. They has shipped a box of them up to us in December for the kids to open, but they wanted to be there when the kids opened most of them. I had no idea they would get this much of a haul. With every box, I cringed just a little more as I imagined myself trying to add that to our already packed-to-capacity van for the ride home.

When the presents were done, we decided to get a little bit of a Disney Fix and go ride the ponies at Fort Wilderness. Evan didn't feel like riding on this day, but each time we go Madison makes it a point to ride on all 3 or 4 ponies they have available. And Grandpa is certainly an enabler here, gladly forking over the $5 per ride. The neat thing about this is that a parent or other "responsible" adult leads the pony around a path of stables of other horses. They have the white ponies that pull Cinderella's coach. None were out for rides this day, but Madison did get to ride one a few trips ago.



Not really sure what's going on here, but it's in the bathroom at Fort Wilderness.



We wanted to get a late lunch/early dinner at Trails End buffet, but it was 3:00, and they were closed between 2 and 4:30 or so. Bummer. So we took the short drive over to the Sand Trap Bar & Grill at Disney's Osprey Ridge Golf Club. Since it was 3:00, we had the dining room virtually to ourselves. There was a very nice view of the golf course, a pond and a fountain. Pictures of said beautiful view? Um...
The kids were able to entertain themselves with the stickers that they were given.




Outside, we found Mickey's Golf cart. As the kids were getting in for a picture, Evan hit the parking break, disengaged it, and the cart starting rolling down the hill. Grandpa was there quick enough to hop in and stop it, but it took some convincing for Madison to get back in for a picture.





Finally, it was on to Downtown Disney for a bit of Lego playing and shopping. (Madison needed a few more accessories for her Princess Tiana dress)





We spent almost $30 at Goofy's Candy Company. These little beauties were $50 a piece, so they stayed in their fancy display case.


So that's it for Saturday. We drove back home, snacked on leftovers and munchies for dinner (yay vacation!) and went to bed. Sunday we check into Animal Kingdom Lodge - Kinani Village for one night to burn up some extra DVC points.

Do I have a cliff hanger question to keep you interested? Will it pull at your heart strings or elicit some other emotional response? Are you going to be on the edge of your seat, waiting to see how any potential conflict is resolved?
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Great update Barry! I love the fishing in the pool pic. And way to go Evan, dislodging the brake and sending the cart on it's way...

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Great update Barry!

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Total driving cost for the way down:$157.74 (Gas) + $24.14 (Steak n Shake, Lakeland, FL) + $8.79 (Yak supplies) = $190.67.
Wow. Hard to argue with those numbers! I don't know if I could bring myself to drive through the night, though. I start to malfunction after 2 a.m. Wait, that was in college. Now, it's 11 p.m.

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Hey - they have palm trees around the sign. It must be a classy place! Plus it was in the same parking lot at the hotel that bills itself as the spring training home of the Detroit Tigers. Just think, I could have clogged my arteries on butter soaked waffles in the same booth that Jim Leyland chain smokes in!
How is that guy still alive?

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We then drove around Lakeland a little bit and looked at the lakes on our way to a park called Common Ground. This is a very nice playground with a lot of money and time spent in putting it together.
That park looks awesome! The kids look like they're having a blast. The big kids, too.

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Hmm...I'll have to think about this one. That no-prize sounds pretty valuable.

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With every box, I cringed just a little more as I imagined myself trying to add that to our already packed-to-capacity van for the ride home.
I know that feeling well! They probably had tons of small parts and made all sorts of racket, too.

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There's got to be a Blazing Saddles joke in here somewhere.

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I don't know. Do you? DO YOU?!
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great up date barry!! that sliding board looks brutal!!! what else is there but cheese and pork? besides beef, i realy cant think of anything better!!
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Thanks for some good lunch break reading!

Glad the "runaway" golf cart was stopped quickly! Sounds like you had a good semi-relaxing first day.

The driving math is interesting. I'm crazy enough to think the drive from MN sounds like fun, but the numbers come out different with only two people going. We got our flights for our next trip (June) for $199/each. And we can usually convince some family member to watch our dog for free But, if there were more of us, I'd have to consider the drive. Plus, I hate flying.

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Great update Barry! I love the fishing in the pool pic. And way to go Evan, dislodging the brake and sending the cart on it's way...
Their pool is not heated, and man was that water cold - even by Wisconsin standards. Each kid did take a turn falling in during the vacation. Evan was reaching for a bucket and Madison a few days later reaching for a fish. Of course we have a "no playing by the pool without and adult" rule, so someone was there immediately to "fish" them out.

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East Coast time hit us pretty hard. Well, Bambi any way. Our "prime time" TV here in Wisconsin is from 7-10. We were watching Dateline on Friday night after we got to Lakeland. (Actually, she was watching. I was asleep on the couch.) We're used to shows ending at 10. Well, 10:00 came and went and the show was still on. It was a 2 hour special that ended at the normal East Coast time of 11. She was so tired, but was too involved in whatever they were talking about to want to shut it off.

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That park looks awesome! The kids look like they're having a blast. The big kids, too.
They had these little spinner chair things that I sat in. They are angled just right that it's almost impossible NOT to keep spinning, even with very little effort. I did the figure skater thing and pulled my legs in and started spinning faster a few times. I got off and seriously could not see for like 30 seconds. I thought I was going to toss cheese balls all over the park.

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I know that feeling well! They probably had tons of small parts and made all sorts of racket, too.
As part of our driving plan, the kids get a small present at every state line. Something for them to look forward to. At one state, Evan got a small police truck that had a siren. For the next 700 miles, I would hear that thing, my heart would skip a beat, and I would scan my rear view mirror for one of Fed's buddies.


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At my work, we have our office and a warehouse. We were reconfiguring some of the computer stations in the warehouse a few years ago. At the time, they all had these declining roller ramps, similar the ones in the picture, but with larger, stainless steel rollers. I took a ride down on one (why? because I can!). My a** was tingling for an hour after that.
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Thanks for some good lunch break reading!

Glad the "runaway" golf cart was stopped quickly! Sounds like you had a good semi-relaxing first day.

The driving math is interesting. I'm crazy enough to think the drive from MN sounds like fun, but the numbers come out different with only two people going. We got our flights for our next trip (June) for $199/each. And we can usually convince some family member to watch our dog for free But, if there were more of us, I'd have to consider the drive. Plus, I hate flying.

Looking forward to more updates!
Even if it was just the two of us, we're just cheap - sorry, frugal - enough to consider still driving. And just imagine how different it would be not having to keep the kids entertained. Which really only consisted of changing DVDs every couple of hours. And the occasional protein spill clean up.
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Even if it was just the two of us, we're just cheap - sorry, frugal - enough to consider still driving. And just imagine how different it would be not having to keep the kids entertained. Which really only consisted of changing DVDs every couple of hours. And the occasional protein spill clean up.
I think I've got that same "frugality" as you...only our locations make the math come out different. You've got fewer miles to drive and higher airfare than us. Gas would be more than airfare for the two of us (we don't pay for airport parking, we won't be checking bags, we don't rent a vehicle, etc.).

I will say, with the exception of the protein spill, your family makes the drive look pretty easy And I love the canine co-pilots!
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I was going to quote you Barry but did not want a long post and was to lazy to cut out things.I agree with you at least for my family.We are also drivers,With 7 of us airfare would be well over$1400 (and thats getting a sale price of $199 which I can never seem to get).However the last few yrs we have stopped and to get a room.We are only in the room for like 3,4 or 5 hrs,just enough for a power nap and nice breakfast.Even with our stopping we get down there in less then 24hrs.We also stopped at every welcome station from Maryland on.To me the drive is part of the trip we make it fun.
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So really, or only cost was gas and one meal. And scented baby wipes and Fabreeze, but we'll remember to pack our own next time.
...writing down "baby wipes and febreeze" on our list...


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... a parent or other "responsible" adult leads the pony around ...

I like the way you used quotes to call your FIL "responsible".


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Pictures of said beautiful view? Um...
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Outside, we found Mickey's Golf cart. As the kids were getting in for a picture, Evan hit the parking break, disengaged it, and the cart starting rolling down the hill. Grandpa was there quick enough to hop in and stop it, but it took some convincing for Madison to get back in for a picture.

That's a story you have to keep telling. Don't let him forget that one.



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Finally, it was on to Downtown Disney for a bit of Lego playing and shopping. (Madison needed a few more accessories for her Princess Tiana dress)
Those girls and their accessories.


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We spent almost $30 at Goofy's Candy Company.
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No, no you don't. It won't. I'm not.
I'm really disappointed. We expect more from you Barry. Come on, you can do better man. We'll let you off this time, but there better be some suspense and thrill to end the next update.


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Great Pics Barry!

Waffle House guess you didn't want to run into Pizza the Hut

Would love to have that golf cart.

My son now wants a cupcake, that I don't have & want's to go to what he calls Lego station ( I got to put him to bed before looking at TR again)
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I think I've got that same "frugality" as you...only our locations make the math come out different. You've got fewer miles to drive and higher airfare than us. Gas would be more than airfare for the two of us (we don't pay for airport parking, we won't be checking bags, we don't rent a vehicle, etc.).

I will say, with the exception of the protein spill, your family makes the drive look pretty easy And I love the canine co-pilots!
Oddly enough, Grandma & Grandpa used to live up your neck of the woods, up in Champlain (NW Suburbs). It was about a 6 hour drive from here, and that's what Bambi swore was her limit in a car. Anything longer than that we fly. I was pretty shocked when she suggest driving for last October's trip. Turned out pretty well.

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I was going to quote you Barry but did not want a long post and was to lazy to cut out things.I agree with you at least for my family.We are also drivers,With 7 of us airfare would be well over$1400 (and thats getting a sale price of $199 which I can never seem to get).However the last few yrs we have stopped and to get a room.We are only in the room for like 3,4 or 5 hrs,just enough for a power nap and nice breakfast.Even with our stopping we get down there in less then 24hrs.We also stopped at every welcome station from Maryland on.To me the drive is part of the trip we make it fun.
7 people? What do you fit all of you in? A bus?

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Ha! I had half of it gone by the time we got back to the van!


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Waffle House guess you didn't want to run into Pizza the Hut

Would love to have that golf cart.

My son now wants a cupcake, that I don't have & want's to go to what he calls Lego station ( I got to put him to bed before looking at TR again)
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