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Old 01-19-2010, 09:07 PM   #16
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I should add that the rate for my June 11, 2010 London & Paris AbD is only $910 more than the Gateway rate. When I compare the differences between the AbD and Gateway, I feel like I'm getting a real bargain!
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Old 01-19-2010, 09:56 PM   #17
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Is it just me..

I don't have kids so its just me and the hubby when we travel. So the cost for us to take an ABD while high is not as high as say a family of 4. Don't get me wrong it's still pricey for us!! So I can understand families taking advantage of the Gateway Trips

As enticing as the prices are I want the full benefit of taking the ABD so I am more than willing to wait and save the pennies to pay a higher price to take the trip I want. I have put Italy on hold until the next time they offer the Med Cruise with ABD which I am hoping will be offered in 2012!!

Gotta Save Save Save my pennies for that one!!
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Old 01-20-2010, 10:51 AM   #18
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I'm with you on all of that--saving pennies, and hooking the med cruise with ABD! We did the med with Disney, and my only gripe was the hit and miss with the off-ship guides. We can't do the med again--so we'll live it via SayHello and her reports! We have been saving many many pennies for the Baltic this summer--and there is no way an ABD can be offered for that, given it starts up in May and there have been no pre-existing ABD trips in that area. So--I'm looking at a lot of shore time on our own rather than with the offered excursions.
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Old 01-21-2010, 08:12 PM   #19
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I am so NOT impressed with the Gateway trips being offered. They are still charging a significant price and eliminating a lot of things. I still think the "powers that be" at ABD need to give their heads a shake, and come up with something more inticing! JMHO
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Old 01-22-2010, 08:51 AM   #20
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As a party of 4, I can be more enticed into the Gateways than the ABD's. I had pretty much written off many of the ABD's because of price. I'm saving up for the Galapagos trip for all 4 of us, but others were going to have to be in many years once my older 2 kids were out of the house and I was down to just me and the youngest. With the Gateways, I may book a trip for 4.
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Old 01-25-2010, 07:52 AM   #21
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I go on one little golf trip last week and I miss all this excitement. Now that I am back and had a chance to glance at the Italy trip vs the Gateway Italy trip, I'm sure the Gateway trip is nice, but it is one less day (which is very disappointing), 2 less lunches, 1 less dinner, and some of the activities have changed. For an extra $850 per person, which is quite a bit, I think the Italy trip is worth it. I have a feeling the hotels on the Gateway trip would be fine, but they probably aren't in prime locations. That was one thing I noticed about other companies that had a similar trip to Italy...their hotels weren't in convenient locations. I don't regret our decision and since it's only my wife and me without any kids, the adults only trip was (and is) a real plus.

It also looks like the Venetian mask making is not offered on the Gateway trip, 2nd class Eurostar tickets (which probably isn't a big deal), and as mentioned earlier, no return transfer. That's quite a bit cut out of the trip for $850.
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I go on one little golf trip last week and I miss all this excitement. Now that I am back and had a chance to glance at the Italy trip vs the Gateway Italy trip, I'm sure the Gateway trip is nice, but it is one less day (which is very disappointing), 2 less lunches, 1 less dinner, and some of the activities have changed. For an extra $850 per person, which is quite a bit, I think the Italy trip is worth it. I have a feeling the hotels on the Gateway trip would be fine, but they probably aren't in prime locations. That was one thing I noticed about other companies that had a similar trip to Italy...their hotels weren't in convenient locations. I don't regret our decision and since it's only my wife and me without any kids, the adults only trip was (and is) a real plus.

It also looks like the Venetian mask making is not offered on the Gateway trip, 2nd class Eurostar tickets (which probably isn't a big deal), and as mentioned earlier, no return transfer. That's quite a bit cut out of the trip for $850.
That's pretty much the same impression I had.

It will be interesting to see what happens with these Gateway trips...

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Old 01-25-2010, 08:44 PM   #23
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The European trips are short enough -- by the time you get yourselves all the way there, with expensive and tiring air travel -- that shortening the trip by a day seems to be a mistake. If it were me, I'd wind up adding extra days - and there would go any price savings.

I'm grateful to ABD for showing me that foreign travel with my family is possible, but I'm starting to understand that it will also be possible without ABD too. Oh well.
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Old 03-27-2010, 02:16 PM   #24
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I realize this thread is a bit old, but I am likely going to book a Gateway and was surprised by some of the conclusions people drew about the relative merits.

For the London/Paris trip, the difference in price for 1 adult and 1 child is $2,800 ($8,400 vs. $5,600)--that's serious money. The differences--which don't matter to me--are second class Eurostar to Paris vs. first class and the hotels (five star versus four star). Also--high tea at Harrod's--I'll pass (did I mention I have a 9-year old son?). Finally, the Paris hotel apparently has easy and direct transportation to the airport (which ABD helps you arrange), so having that included is just not that big a deal to me.

The two differences that really seem material are the Lion King and the tour of Versailles. I've looked at bike tours for Versailles, and we can book that on our own for less than $200 total on one of our off days. The Lion King? Okay--you got me. Fortunately we already saw it on Broadway but I would have seen it again (and with the backstage tour) in a heartbeat. Instead we'll take the opportunity to see something fun and different (Oliver or Grease). So in sum--$2,800 for the Lion King? Not for me.

I just think the Gateway is a great opportunity for families that don't want or have the money to go first class on everything--but still want the ol' disney magic. See you all in London!
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Old 03-27-2010, 03:14 PM   #25
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I agree with you kiddad. I thought the gateway trips looked pretty good. I like that you have a little more on your own time and you save quite a bit of money. The Costa Rica gateway was very appealing to me however I had already booked southwest splendors when the Gateways came out. Have an awesome time in London and Paris.
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I realize this thread is a bit old, but I am likely going to book a Gateway and was surprised by some of the conclusions people drew about the relative merits.

For the London/Paris trip, the difference in price for 1 adult and 1 child is $2,800 ($8,400 vs. $5,600)--that's serious money. The differences--which don't matter to me--are second class Eurostar to Paris vs. first class and the hotels (five star versus four star). Also--high tea at Harrod's--I'll pass (did I mention I have a 9-year old son?). Finally, the Paris hotel apparently has easy and direct transportation to the airport (which ABD helps you arrange), so having that included is just not that big a deal to me.

The two differences that really seem material are the Lion King and the tour of Versailles. I've looked at bike tours for Versailles, and we can book that on our own for less than $200 total on one of our off days. The Lion King? Okay--you got me. Fortunately we already saw it on Broadway but I would have seen it again (and with the backstage tour) in a heartbeat. Instead we'll take the opportunity to see something fun and different (Oliver or Grease). So in sum--$2,800 for the Lion King? Not for me.

I just think the Gateway is a great opportunity for families that don't want or have the money to go first class on everything--but still want the ol' disney magic. See you all in London!
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Please let us know how the trip goes once you get back. I have a 9-year-old son too and it would be great to hear what your son likes about the trip. My son absolutely loves the two ABDs we've done so far, but they were more active/outdoorsy than K&L. There is another more recent thread where a few of us were considering booking the K&L Gateway. Have you taken an ABD before? I would really love to hear a first hand account from someone who has done both. If this is your first ABD, it would still be great to get your impressions. I've decided no more WDW trips for us for a few years and we're saving up to hopefully do two ABDs (or something similar) in Europe next year. If one of them could be a Gateway trip it would make the cost a little more bearable. Hope you have a wonderful trip! Can't wait to hear about it!
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Old 03-27-2010, 04:11 PM   #27
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Hi Bobo912: This is our first ABD. I've wanted to go for a while, but couldn't pull the trigger because of the cost--which is why Gateway is so welcome. I'll definitely post when we return (we're going to book the 6/25 departure).

And AirBear--I agree about the appeal of the downtime. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but because this is our first "escorted" tour, I was concerned it would be too structured. I actually like the fact I'll have a little bit of time to plan on our own.

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Old 04-01-2010, 03:24 PM   #28
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KidDad, have you booked your airfare? Did you come across any good deals? I think we will be waiting until next year for a European trip, but if I could find a good airfare and I'm not too busy at work, I would definitely consider a last minute booking of the Aug 2 K&L Gateway - if it's not fully booked, that is. That's a lot of "ifs", but one never knows how things will work out. I gather that you are traveling alone with you son. Just want to let you know from my ABD experience that it is the perfect way for a single parent to travel with their child. But let me warn you, you will be spoiled forever. Every time I think about taking a vacation on my own now, I can't bear to put myself all the research, planning, transporting, luggage toting, etc., etc., etc.
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Old 04-01-2010, 04:32 PM   #29
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Bobo912, I got relatively good rates (under $1,000/pp) out of Boston for my K&L on 6/11. I flew Icelandair (to Iceland!) in February and loved them, so booked my air with them again for this trip. It is a connecting flight, but the airport in Iceland is one terminal and very easy to navigate. I saved over $400.00 over the direct flight and I get to stretch my legs.

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Old 04-01-2010, 05:32 PM   #30
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Italy Gatewy

My family is taking the Italy Gateway tour in June - I sadly waited too late to be able to join the Viva Italia tour . But, we are quite excited about this trip the closer it gets!
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