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Am I an uptight mother?
Ok, so DD is 5. For her birthday my sil offered to pay for a visit to the hairdresser. I know it is because when dh goes to his mothers on the weekend while I'm at work, her hair is a mess. DD is biracial so her hair is thick and curly. I have no problems styling her hair, but dh does. When we got to the salon, her 6 year old cousin says, "You're going to get your hair straightened so it's not poofy anymore." In the back of my head, I'm thinking, oh no she's not! Dsil intended to have her hair relaxed with chemicals to make it straighter, without asking me. Initially she didn't even expect me to come, but she was running late and asked me to meet her. I was planning on going anyway, to supervise. The hairdresser said that she was too young to get her hair relaxed, but could probably have it done next summer. I plainly said, "I don't want her hair relaxed at all." DD enjoyed the wash, trim, and curl... she was very good and was very cute in the chair. I don't see anything wrong with getting her hair cut at the salon, but that's where I draw the line. Dsil says at the end, see her hair looks so healthy now that she's had it trimmed. The hairdresser has known dsil for 14 years and I felt very uncomfortable being there. You know that feeling you get when you know you're the butt of a joke.
Dsil also has 2 girls 12 and 14. They have been going to the salon regularly to get their nails done (with false nails), highlights, and eyebrows waxed. I'm very low maintenance, I've never had my eyebrows waxed & I don't get my nails done. I will never agree to let my daughter have her eyebrows waxed, and have fake nails put on (senior prom, maybe if she asks for the nails). To me, there is so much more I'd rather spend my money on and I don't see the point. If someone is judging me because my eyebrows are too thick for their liking, then I don't care to associate with them. That's what I'm trying to teach dd, and its getting more difficult now that she's getting older and is being influenced by dsil and her kids. I didn't even get into the clothes (black high heels, etc.) and makeup. The 12 year old has been wearing black eyeliner for a couple years now, and the 14 year old wears it all for several years. Is this what I should expect, or am I just uptight? |
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I don't agree with very much of your second paragraph. IF I had a daughter and she was interested in hair and makeup, I'd just go with it. But I understand that people have different opinions on this.
Your first paragraph, I am completely on your side. What your SIL did seemed very controlling. Now, I am famous for overanalyzing things, but when she said "see doesn't it look so much healthier NOW" that implies that you were not capable of taking care of your daughter's hair yourself. I'd be annoyed. I have a SIL who would do exactly this sort of thing, so you have my sympathy.
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Your child - your rules - and no, I don't think you're being "uptight"..
We seem to be living in an "anything goes society" and so many parents are afraid to say "no" to their kids - or to others.. They give a whole laundry list of reasons: "My child will be left out." "My child will stand out as different." "All of the other kids are doing it - it's just the new norm." And on and on.. If children are allowed to do things based on the list above, there is no individuality.. They become followers rather than leaders.. Eventually the parents lose control and then they wonder why.. Do what you feel is best/right for your child - and don't let her go to the hair salon with your Dsil anymore..
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Well, I would be upset that she planned on having my dd's hair relaxed. Dd6 and 8 have fine, straight hair, and if my SIL took them in for a perm behind my back, I'd be livid.
However, I see nothing wrong with girls wanting their nails to look nice, have their eyebrows waxed (dd8 needs hers done, and I'll take her when she asks - I plucked my eyebrows in JH), and having their hair done. Just because these things don't interest you, they might interest your dd. I'm sitting here in sweatpants, and no makeup. Dd13 wouldn't be caught dead looking like I do right now! She gets up 1 1/2 hours before school to primp (light makeup, flat iron, pick out the perfect outfit). From the looks of things, this is normal (I remember drying and curling my hair every day when I was in MS/HS).All of my girls have been going to a salon to get their hair cut and blown out since they had hair. They've all been treated to mani/pedi's (we have tons of nail salons - $10). Now, if dd13 wanted a manicure on a regular basis, I'd have no problem with that, provided she used her own money (she'd have to give up her starbucks habit).
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OP, Your SIL was out of line. At 5, your DD, should be allowed to be a little girl and not preoccupied with whether her hair/looks "fit in". It sounds like it was a good thing you were there!
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Your dd is 5. It's always a bad idea to say you'll never do something until you're in that situation. Believe me, I know this from experience.I do agree with you that 5 is way too young to be worrying about more than just getting her hair cut and I'd have been ticked with the SIL. I'm not a high maintenance woman myself but dd loves doing all that girly stuff. She got herself a job when she was a teenager and got her eyebrows waxed and gets a regular pedicure and got a pink streak in her hair as part of a fundraiser for breast cancer research. My first thought was to say no (well not to the fundraiser--it was a good cause) but with all the other stuff you have to worry about with teens, pedicures and eyeliner and eyebrow waxing is just so minor. You might change your mind if your dd wants to do that when she's a teen.
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Ugh. It drives me crazy when people find it necessary alter characteristics of one's ethnicity through chemicals and whatnot. And how RUDE to imply to a 5 year old that her natural hair isn't good enough!
Poor thing. I completely agree with the way you handled it.
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SIL sounds overbearing and I would have been offended by the whole salon experience. Your daughter's appearance is really none of her beeswax and her comments undermine you as a mother.
As for the makeup and spa services for young girls -- I think girls are doing this type of thing much earlier than when I was young, (in the 1970's.) I was 11 when I got my ears pierced -- my five year old begged to have hers pierced and we got it done last month. My five year old has a makeup kit filled with things from Claire's -- fingernail polishes and lip glosses. I didn't have a stitch of makeup until I was probably 13. My five year old has also asked for a cell phone and a ride in a limo -- UM, yeah, we draw the line there!! ![]() I guess I don't feel like it's wrong or unusual for young girls to experiment with their appearance -- and be prepared for them to ask for these things at a younger age than you would expect. Just remember that you're the mom and your rules go!!
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Hair straightening at 5 years old? Is she crazy or just shallow?
Sounds like she was going to go behind your back and do what she wants to do. Ugh, so frustrating. I feel for you. You just have to be vocal about what you will not allow and stand strong with her or she will do this same thing again in a couple of years.There is no way I would let my 12 or 14 year old daughter have fake nails, so not necessary. If they want nails, God gave us natural ones. They can grow them. ![]() The eyebrows, yeah, I would allow her to wax them when she reached an age where she wants them done. But, your daughter, your house, your rules.
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Not uptight at all. Your kid, your rules. 5 IS too young for chemical processing of her hair. Your SIL is out of line.
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DEFINITELY a no to putting chemicals on the head of a 5 year old.
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It may be common these days for young teens to focus on their appearance but I don't think it is "normal" or healthy.
I know quite a few young teens girls who are not immersed in today's youth culture (in this case, they are homeschooled) and they are not interested in make-up, nails, hair, etc... Of course, they want to look nice but they have not absorbed the desire to be dolled up. I think it's more of a peer pressure thing. To me, there are things that are feminine and there are things that are womanly. I allow my young daughters to do what I feel are feminine things... delicate jewelry, a hairdo on special occasions... but I don't allow womanly things... make-up, false nails, heeled shoes or panyhose. Be strong in your choices, OP!
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I agree with C.Ann.
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Anyone seen "Good Hair"? It is downright terrifying what African American women do to themselves. Anyway, I assume that you are white and your SIL is not. It is a completely foreign culture when it comes to hair, with so many undercurrents and subtexts that white people just do not get a lot of times. The movie was eye-opening to me. My DD17 has beautiful curly hair and all her Black girlfriends were always trying to get her to relax it. I never understood why until I saw the movie.
However, that being said, I am in complete agreement with you. Don't let anyone touch that baby's hair. |
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