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![]() BL6 Blue Team Co-captain I hope we never lose sight of one thing, it was all started by a mouse I went "wow, that hurt" Join Date: May 2008
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Fed Up With It All- UPDATE: Post 34
I would like to preface this with I do like my job. I really do. My kids are hard to deal with, but we have already made a lot of progress.
On with the vent: I have a para in my room that sometimes makes my job hell on earth. He has either been very late or not come into work 5 times without calling in appropriately (so we don't know where he is, if he is coming in, etc.) He totally undermines me in front of the kids. I make it a point of supporting what he says to the kids, even if I don't agree with it. He often just gets up and leaves the room to go talk to other teachers. He has his cell phone out all the time, even when he is "teaching." He tried changing a students' lunch plan (which was handed down by the principal) without even consulting me. When we do the pledge/patriotic song, he either sits there or just walks around the room air drumming instead of doing it with us. (I know that is minor, but it just adds to everything.) If I ask the kids to silent read, he sits there and chit chats. If he is not given a specific activity, he is playing with his Nintendo or Cell Phone. The one time I asked him to copy something (in an emergency, somebody was coming to take somethign to another school with no notice) he gave me flack for it because "paras aren't supposed to copy." I know they are not my servants, and I would not have asked him if not in an emergency. I know they are not there to help me clean up, but it would be nice if he would help every once in awhile. WE are supposed to have radios and his radio was mysteriously "stolen" out of his car (we're not even supposed to take them home) so now I am the only one with a radio. We added a seocnd para to the room who came from the same school he did, and said that he pulled the same crap there. She actually does help pick up after the kids, even though she technically doesn't have to. She has been a godsend. Anyway, today was the last straw. He made some incredibly rude and uncalled for comments to her, right in front of the kids. I am so frustrated. He was moved into this room from another school at the end of last year. So he was there before me. The principal is well aware of his attendance issues, and his texting (she caught him in action when she came to observe me.) But other than talking to him, I don't think anything has happened. I am a new teacher on a probationary contract. No guarantees of renewals, so I feel powerless to do anything. Honestly, I'm not sure that I can take it much more. There is a big part of me that wants to say if he is here next year, I will not be. But I know that is petty and childish. So I just bite my tongue and try to cope. It's hard enough having kids who are so severe (I was bitten again today), but I feel like he is just another child. At one point I was even making a daily schedule for him, and he still wasn't following it (but complaining to every adult in the building about it, even though it was under order from the principal.) I just don't know what else I can do. Thank you for letting me vent.
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I hear you. Around here, the paras really go out of their way to go the extra mile for the kids. As a parent, I'd be furious if he was in my child's classroom. Zoe needs lots of help in socialization, communication, and a big part of that is imitating appropriate behaviors. The guy you're describing is too self-absorbed to see he's actually hindering the kids' learning, everytime he does something as simple as blowing off the Pledge of Allegiance.
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Oh my gosh, that totally reminded me of something today. I have a kid that has the option of using his chair during circle time. So of course, the para picks it up and starts flipping it around. Next thing I know, the kid (who copies everything he sees) is doing the same thing. Argh!
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WTH? I would be furious!!! Like Kirsten, my daughter needs appropriate role models and is fortunate to be in a classroom staffed with wonderful women. All I can offer is that you are the teacher and it is your classroom. It will be a very long school year if you don't make every effort to either change this behavior or replace this guy now.
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Document everything. Keep going to the principal. After a while, go to the school board. His behavior in the classroom shouldn't be tolerated, and you should be respected by the principal or the superintendent regardless of your contract status.
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Believe me, I've tried. I've talked to him, the process coordinator has talked to him, the principal has talked to him. He just doesn't care. I've made him a detailed schedule, he just whined about it to a different building para. As the teacher, if I had pull ed so many no call no shows, I would have been fired. Apparently, he did this last year too and yet he is still here. I honestly want him to do it a few more times so they will fire him, since nothing else seems to work. I am going to talk to my process coordinator tomorrow, as well as to him.
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Anybody figure out the why we are there and how do we do it
I thought it looked like they were baking bread I see Oompa Loompas playing with fire Join Date: Mar 2005
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I agree with everything being said. You really are the voice for these kids. If you don't feel like he is appropriate for them, he needs to go. I'm sure the parents would not be at all happy if they knew what was going on and I'm guessing there's a good chance that the kids can't explain it to them.
My daughter's aides in her class, left her get lost in the hallway this year ( no one went with her) and she's only in Kindergarten. I was furious. I called everyone and I'm not done yet, IEP meeting soon. Again, you are those kids' voices. Good luck! Also, kuddos to you. It takes a pretty great person to teach the "special" class. Mine is a handful at home and I can't imagine a roomful.
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I agree, especially with documentation. Document, document and document some more. It is horrible that you feel powerless in this situation and remember when you need to vent just vent. Thats what we're here for. |
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Shannonh: He has done that (sort of). He dropped off a student to a completely empty classroom. She was discovered by another teacher going through book bags. Another time he brought the kids back to the room and left them without making sure I was there (I was not.) My process coordinator and I have had long talks. I thought he was improving, it certainly seemed to help having a second para, but it seems like this week he has totally backslidden.
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Document, document, document!
I also think I'd make sure some of my more "outspoken" parents knew what was going on in the classroom, because they would more than likely be willing to share their concerns with your principal or special education coordinator. Like some PPs said, students, especially students with special needs, need positive role models to benefit their education process.
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He had a yowl that could peel paper I would never joke around about making money My AI Loser Tag Join Date: Apr 2000
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If you already know that talking to him doesn't work, why bother? I think it might be ok at this point to just have a meeting with the process coordinator. And if he's a para, he's probably not even unionized...can't he be let go at the employer's discretion?
Let him hoist himself on his own petard. agnes!
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No time for green bananas When the going gets tough, she gets the Palmolive!! If I knew we were going to be graded here, I might try harder Join Date: May 2001
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How old is this para?
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Around my age I think. I know that he already did his senior year of college, because he talks about in his senior year switching from art to education major (he's getting his education degree)
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We'll remember when...
No time for green bananas When the going gets tough, she gets the Palmolive!! If I knew we were going to be graded here, I might try harder Join Date: May 2001
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Make sure you document everything. Talk to your special education coordinator and ask for help in resolving the situation. Are you required to have a teaching contract with your assistants? If you had one, you could easily lay out the expectations of the classroom and roles. Putting this information in a way to demonstate that everyone is there for the benefit of the students may help.
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