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Old 10-29-2009, 09:12 PM   #1
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Doctor-Patient Confidentiality?

Going to the doctor is always upsetting because we are so fearful of our illnesses. We are also fearful of the bills. A doctor's appointment this morning just pushed me over the limit, and I yelled at the receptionist in front of her co-workers and other patients. I am pretty respectful of waiters and nearly anyone else having to put up with me in the line of duty because they don't have to do it. They could be robbing my home instead. This morning was just too much.

I approached reception and grit my teeth while she was aggressive about money, even though I have been paying every month for what my insurance will not. Then she gets my insurance card and demands that I present another I.D. with this insurance card, even though I have been going there for a year now and would be recognized by medical personnel, which I was. Even though my driver's license number and Social Security number, which have nothing to do with health care, are already in my medical records, I tolerated this new indignity as well. That wasn't enough to shut her up. She then demanded that I permit her to take my picture with a camera already set up there on the counter. I just lost it at that point because I think that it is wrong that something as personal as our medical records are tied to national identity numbers with our having no choice in the matter, but now our pictures can be too!! This is an outrage.

I heard another patient being told that the law requires these photographs. What law? My dentist doesn't take the patients' pictures. My husband's general practitioner doesn't take the patients' pictures. I am not seeing an inmates' doctor in a jail. I am a working patient who pays for her insurance. What law requires doctors to take mug shots of their patients? Has this been been demanded of you in a doctor's office? I don't believe that the law requires this so I am going to be contacting my representatives. Remember your doctor is under no legal duty to treat you, not even his own diagnosis made with tests he pressured you into.

Whatever happened to doctor-patient confidentiality?!
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:16 PM   #2
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It is ok to disagree with the policy, but taking it out on the receptionist is not fair. I am certain she doesn't make the policy and she prob gets yelled at all day, which would explain her mood. She may in fact agree with you 100% about the policy, but she can't tell you that or she will have no job.

Don't shoot the messenger. She was just doing her job.
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:20 PM   #3
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I'm sorry you've had a rough day.

But I don't understand how putting your picture in your medical records violates HIPAA.

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Old 10-29-2009, 09:21 PM   #4
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On my last visit to my doctor, the receptionist asked for photo ID and made a copy of my DL. I really didn't think much of it. They want to be sure the person they are treating is the person who has the insurance. Someone who doesn't have insurance could borrow your card and get treatment with it.
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:21 PM   #5
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Every time I go to the doctor, or take my kids, I have to show my insurance card and drivers license even though we are well known at every doctor we see. I've never taken that to be an invasion of privacy. I'm sure they do that to satisfy some insurance thing. I have had 2 doctors photograph me. I think that's because they put the picture in their database where they keep your records. That way when you call after hours and they need to pull up your file on their laptop, they can instantly put your name with your face.

I'm not sure why this would be a conflict of doctor-patient confidentiality though. It sounds like the receptionist was rude--she could have asked you for these things and given you an explanation, surely. But you came off pretty rude yourself. You owe her an apology for your part in this debacle. An apology and a pizza.
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:23 PM   #6
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The dr is just trying to protect YOU so someone doesn't steal your insurance card. I just can't imagine going through life thinking everyone is out to get me. If you don't like it, stop going to the dr, problem solved.
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:27 PM   #7
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Unless this is something very, very new, I have never heard of it either.. I think my reaction would have been to ask them what would happen if you chose not to submit to having your photograph taken..
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:34 PM   #8
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I've never had to have my picture taken at any doctors office, and I probably wouldn't like it too much---but I'd let them. Most doctors I have been to do make a copy of my drivers license, though, as well as my insurance card.

I'm sure the receptionist doesn't make the rules, so she was just doing what she was told to do. If she was rude, she shouldn't have been. People who work with the public are going to have all kinds of people, but they should try to remain professional, and not make matters (or someone's mood) worse. There are receptionists (and all kinds of employee's) who are just rude and nasty even when nothing is wrong; they just have no people skills (and shouldn't work with the public). Those are the one's that really bother me.
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:36 PM   #9
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I never thought of insurance. I thought photo was another way to make sure they are treating the correct person.
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:39 PM   #10
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I really don't see how a photo of you violates any doctor patient confidentiality. Did you yell at the receptionist on your first visit when you had to give them your name?
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:41 PM   #11
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It's new to me.

My insurance company doesn't have a picture of me on file. So they would have nothing to compare it to. I always thought the doctor's offices got a copy of my drivers license to match up the information provided: name, address, age. The picture isn't that large or great on my driver's license.

I wouldn't like the picture thing. I would want information about the law that was referred to and decline until I could look into it. Never heard of such a law.
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:53 PM   #12
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Sorry, but identity theft has now crossed into insurance. It's getting worse and worse and the office is just trying to protect you. Frankly, I feel for the poor receptionist who was just doing his/her job. Front line workers in healthcare deal with a lot of grief.
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:06 PM   #13
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I've had pictures taken at doctor's offices. It's to prevent insurance fraud. It's not a big deal. It's to protect YOU from identity theft and fraud.

I'm sorry you're having issues but the receptionist was no doubt just following the policy for that office. Did yelling at her make you feel better?
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:12 PM   #14
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My dentist has polaroids of all patients. Mine is about 10 years old, but I think they use it to recognize you when you come in b/c mine greet me by name when I enter the door though I only visit twice a year. I'm sorry you are having a bad day.
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Old 10-29-2009, 10:14 PM   #15
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Not to be rude, but if the receptionist also books tests and gets prior authorizations through your insurance for the tests she knows why you were seen.
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