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Old 10-18-2009, 06:02 PM   #1
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Power chair and flying, ??s

I am considering flying. It would be me and my 2 kids (6 and 8). Some direct flights from here to WDW are pretty cheap right now and I think it will cost less (and be oh so much faster) than driving. My 6 yr old uses a power chair for distance... this is where my questions come in.

I have always driven because of money and because I was terrified they would tear up her chair. I know her chair has a gel battery and does not have to be disassembled. I am not sure what else I need to know/find out/ask about with her chair and flying. Its a big heavy chair (300 lbs).

Also I am wondering about a carseat. My daughter is 6 yrs old but she is only 28 lbs. I know she can be transported in her chair. I am not so sure about comfort on the airplane. I am thinking she is smaller than many 2 yr olds as lap kids, so I can hold her. I would prefer not having to deal with 2 kids and our luggage and them harming her chair AND a carseat, IF we do decide to fly.

So I guess I am overall asking for tips/experience in flying with a power chair.

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Old 10-18-2009, 07:21 PM   #2
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I would really recommend purchasing a seat for your daughter - others may say it's safe to have a lap child on a plane, but I've been on some pretty turbulent flights going to Orlando, and your daughter wouldn't have a chance if she wasn't buckled in when the plane hits an air pocket. Instead of bringing a carseat, you could get one of those harness things they sell for airplanes - my mind is drawing a blank as to the actual name, maybe someone else has a brain functioning better than mine right now?

Take photos of the wheelchair before you let them take it to stow away - take off everything loose and store it in a duffle bag. That will not count as baggage, it's a medical need. Bring the manual for the wheelchair to, in case you need to order a part, or reassemble something.

Also, have you considered not bringing the wheelchair, and having her use a stroller as a wheelchair for the trip?
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Old 10-18-2009, 07:30 PM   #3
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My daughter could not use a harness in a seat. I would purchase her a seat since she is over the age of 2, its required. However, her knees are 90 degrees and do not straighten. She could not sit in a seat and have the seatbelt on during flight. She can't physically sit like that. Thats why she would be in my lap, that isn't really a concern for me. I have held her on many flights before and she was about the same size she is now.

She can't use "typical" strollers. She would not go to Disney without her power chair. It would be like taking a typical kid and putting them in long leg casts, slapping them in a stroller and sending them off for the week. She wouldn't be happy about even going. She isn't a "baby" and won't use a "baby seat". Very independent and stubborn she is

Her chair will be going or we won't go..... I would drive first. A trip to walmart without her chair, sure.... but Disney World for a week? Oh my goodness what a disaster that would be.

Thanks for your suggestions . I should have explained us a little better!
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Old 10-18-2009, 08:55 PM   #4
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I am considering flying. It would be me and my 2 kids (6 and 8). Some direct flights from here to WDW are pretty cheap right now and I think it will cost less (and be oh so much faster) than driving. My 6 yr old uses a power chair for distance... this is where my questions come in.

I have always driven because of money and because I was terrified they would tear up her chair. I know her chair has a gel battery and does not have to be disassembled. I am not sure what else I need to know/find out/ask about with her chair and flying. Its a big heavy chair (300 lbs).

Also I am wondering about a carseat. My daughter is 6 yrs old but she is only 28 lbs. I know she can be transported in her chair. I am not so sure about comfort on the airplane. I am thinking she is smaller than many 2 yr olds as lap kids, so I can hold her. I would prefer not having to deal with 2 kids and our luggage and them harming her chair AND a carseat, IF we do decide to fly.

So I guess I am overall asking for tips/experience in flying with a power chair.

Thanks!
For the car seat, would you be planning on using it on the plane or renting a wheelchair van once you are down??
And, does she normally get out of her wheelchair in the van or not?
I'm thinking that if she fits in the car seat, she might be more comfortable riding in it on the plane than being held.

I'm probably not a good one to ask about flying with the chair since we have not been brave enough to fly with DD's power wheelchair. But, she also would not have stamina to drive the power wheelchair all day, so I would be reaching over her to drive it anyway. And, she doesn't mind being pushed at WDW.
When we were thinking of doing it, the wheelchair tech basically gave us the same advice as Schmeck posted, take everything removable off. He also suggested we remove the joystick/electronics, pack it in bubble wrap and carry it on with us. My DD's electronics/joystick can be removed with one quick connector and 2 screws. As an alternate, he suggested wrapping it in bubble wrap and duct taping something solid, like a sturdy box, over the top of it.
My DD's power chair is kind of 'plain vanilla', in terms of not reclining or anything. The advice I have heard for chairs that do recline or raise is to have it stowed in the 'smallest' position (i.e. as straight as possible and as low as possible) when it is put on the plane.
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Old 10-18-2009, 10:07 PM   #5
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I just had my power chair broken by SW airlines. Someone decided to have fun with the control pad. When my chair was brought back to me up the runway it had the leg rests fully extended, the seat elevator all the way up, the tilt all the way back and the recline all the way forward, so basically the seat was smashed up against the back of the chair. By all their shenanigans they broke the seat elevator belt and disconnected the tilt, so I had to drive my chair with my knees in my chin for a day until they sent out a tech to my hotel to fix it. Then when they reclined the seat all the way they cracked my vent battery case which broke off the housing for the charger. That required a service call too. I've never had a problem though before this trip- but now I'll be nervous from here on out to fly with my chair and I have no other option either. I think you just have to take a chance. I had told the person bringing my chair into the plane what he could and could NOT touch, but he didn't listen. I heard horror stories from the tech who temporarily patched up my chair about all the damages from airlines. Why they would prefer to pay the extreme repair costs or pay to replace a custom w/c vs. just taking care with it is beyond me. At least this is a child's chair and as such should not need any adjustments to fit in the plane hold door. If there are any questions about that though, you could always call the airline in advance and ask for dimensions.---Kathy
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I don't have a power chair but do have a scooter on one of our trips SW airlines broke the tiller but had a replacement brought to our hotel within an hour of our arrival they took mine for 3 days to fix it then met me at the hotel early in the morning to swap it went well but they did break it
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I just had my power chair broken by SW airlines. Someone decided to have fun with the control pad. When my chair was brought back to me up the runway it had the leg rests fully extended, the seat elevator all the way up, the tilt all the way back and the recline all the way forward, so basically the seat was smashed up against the back of the chair. By all their shenanigans they broke the seat elevator belt and disconnected the tilt, so I had to drive my chair with my knees in my chin for a day until they sent out a tech to my hotel to fix it. Then when they reclined the seat all the way they cracked my vent battery case which broke off the housing for the charger. That required a service call too. I've never had a problem though before this trip- but now I'll be nervous from here on out to fly with my chair and I have no other option either. I think you just have to take a chance. I had told the person bringing my chair into the plane what he could and could NOT touch, but he didn't listen. I heard horror stories from the tech who temporarily patched up my chair about all the damages from airlines. Why they would prefer to pay the extreme repair costs or pay to replace a custom w/c vs. just taking care with it is beyond me. At least this is a child's chair and as such should not need any adjustments to fit in the plane hold door. If there are any questions about that though, you could always call the airline in advance and ask for dimensions.---Kathy
I have been reluctant to take my power chair on the plane but I was considering it for this upcoming trip. Not now, I guess I'll bite the bullet and rent a power chair for the trip. Anyone ever rented a Power chair from Care Med or Buena Vista ?
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If rental were an option I would definitely go that route. However they don't rent power chairs for 28 lb kiddos.

We do have a non stop flight down and back. Our carrier is Delta. I am so very excited . I am going to call and talk to them. Her chair isn't a "typical" small chair. Its a permobile playman robo. Its a very very expensive chair and its pretty large with hydrolics, etc. I will just have to see what they say. I am nervous mostly because I know IF they do break it... a local vendor will have to order parts and there is no replacement in the meantime. I will give someone a good talkin to..... What else can I do?

Ok..... decisions decision.... fly or drive, fly or drive....
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If rental were an option I would definitely go that route. However they don't rent power chairs for 28 lb kiddos.

We do have a non stop flight down and back. Our carrier is Delta. I am so very excited . I am going to call and talk to them. Her chair isn't a "typical" small chair. Its a permobile playman robo. Its a very very expensive chair and its pretty large with hydrolics, etc. I will just have to see what they say. I am nervous mostly because I know IF they do break it... a local vendor will have to order parts and there is no replacement in the meantime. I will give someone a good talkin to..... What else can I do?

Ok..... decisions decision.... fly or drive, fly or drive....
They don't even rent power wheelchairs for 85 pound 5 feet tall kids who need 14 inch wide seats. Unless you have a very common power wheelchair with no special options, it's not possible to rent.
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It looks likle we'll be there at the same time!
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I am renting a powerchair from Buena Vista when I am there next week - I will report back on it.

I am getting a Quantum Q600 chair with tilt, but it was not ready in time, and I probly would not have flown with it anyway. I can do ok with a rental, and i will switch to my manual on days when i need better seating needs....

i hope the rental works out for me, but it will still be too big, I am 5 ft 1, 120 lbs, and no one rents chairs even that small!

Honestly, driving may be easier, but either way, i hope it works out for you!
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I'm not small. So hopefully a rental will be okay. Please let us know how the rentl works out.
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UGH...

I was SOOOOO hoping we would be able to fly next November! We were going to try SW.

Unfortunately, Lauren's chair has a tilt and an elevator and if they screw it up...it is really expensive. Not just the regular stuff...but the extra for the tilt and elevator. The elevator also makes her chair really tall.



Decisions, Decisions.

I guess we will drive it down and let her fly. She can't take the ride down there and then Disney.
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If we fly I will definitely let you know how it goes. Julias chair has hydrolics that take the seat to the floor as well as elevates 8 inches so she can reach counter height, etc.
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Since the beginning of July I have taken two round trips on Delta to Los Angeles and back with my ECV. One had a change of planes in Atlanta, all other flights were non-stop. I had absolutely no problems on any of the five flights.
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