At which park closing stage will they lock us out???

[3floridarays]

We booked DTD Hilton since it is the only DTD hotel that still gets EMH. We will also be purchasing annual passes for our trip. It seems that there are two different stages that apply to us (off-site and Annual Passholders) so at which stage do we get locked out if a park hits capacity?

[btuftee]

This is copied from Allears.net:

WDW Phased Park Closings

Phase I: Guests with non-hopper-type Magic Your Way base tickets or Single Day/Single Park Tickets, guests without admission, and Cast Members using certain types of CM admission are turned away at the entrances to the parking lots.

Phase II: Disney Resort guests, Annual/Premium Annual Passholders, guests with park hopper tickets, and guests re-entering the same park on the same day are admitted, but only if they arrive using Disney resort transportation or a taxi.

Phase III: Disney Resort guests and Annual/Premium Annual passholders are admitted; however, they must arrive using Disney resort transportation.

Phase IV: The parks are closed to all incoming guests. There is no incoming transportation of any kind.

You'd be good through Phase III, but you'd need to use WDW transportation. I don't know if DTD Hilton is on the WDW bus network or not. Of course, one could always walk across the street to DTD and hop on the WDW buses. Take one to a MK-area resort and you'll be fine.

[disney111]

When are you going? Unless you're going during a super busy holiday like New Years Eve/Christmas/July 4th I wouldn't worry.

[Cheshire Figment]

The turnstile master computer at each park keeps track of both entries and exits. When a park capacity closes (which is done in stages) there has to be a certain number of people exiting, with the total "in park" below a certain number, before they start allowing people in again.

I am low enough on the totem pole that I have no idea what these numbers are.

There are four stages to park closing:

Stage 1 - The parking lot entrance is closed. You can only access the park if you are using Disney Transportation.

Stage 2 - The ticket windows are all closed (and the automated Ticket Vending Machines are turned off). Unless you already have a ticket you cannot get in.

Stage 3 - Only people with Annual Passes or current Resort IDs will be allowed in.

Stage 4 - Nobody is allowed in.

Note - having restaurant reservations in a park, even with written proof, will not override a stage closing for you.

Also, if you are staying at a Disney owned and operated Resort and have a ticket, you are guaranteed entry into A park. Not necessarily the one you want (unless you want to go into AK). And if you have entered and left a park and do not have a hopper you may not get into anything.

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Looking at the 4 closing stages I would think you would not be allowed in at stage 4, since that includes everyone no matter where they are staying or the type of passes they have. Since you have annual passes I would say you are ok if they are in stage 3.

[willowsnn3]

Would Thanksgiving Day @ MK reach a stage 3 or 4???

[dreamer423]

Would I have an issue re-entering after CM lunch on SaT-DEC 19-THE day after last MVMCP-when park is open 9-11 and crowd calendar is 8?

Thanks for op's.

[3floridarays]

Thanks for all the great info! We will be there Dec 18-23, so I am mentally preparing myself for gridlock. It looks like we will be good for stage 3, and I figure if it went above that I wouldn't want to be in the park anyway.

[DVC4US]

Originally Posted by dreamer423

Would I have an issue re-entering after CM lunch on SaT-DEC 19-THE day after last MVMCP-when park is open 9-11 and crowd calendar is 8?

Thanks for op's.

You should not have any problem returning on this date. The parks will be crowded during this week but not to capacity.

[DVC4US]

Originally Posted by 3floridarays

Thanks for all the great info! We will be there Dec 18-23, so I am mentally preparing myself for gridlock. It looks like we will be good for stage 3, and I figure if it went above that I wouldn't want to be in the park anyway.

I don't think you have to be ready for gridlock or for any of the closing stages. As far as I am aware the usual days for the closing policy are Christmas Day, NYE, and July 4th. We were at WDW in 2007 during Christmas and New Years and it was crowded (which I expected) but not that bad. On Christmas Day we were in the MK at 8am and then left around 10:30am. They had already closed the parking lot to MK when we left and at some point that day the whole park was closed. On NYE we stayed out of the parks but I heard that MK was closed due to capacity by 1pm.

Again, it will be crowded but as long as you are aware of this, you should be okay.

[SaraJayne]

Originally Posted by willowsnn3

Would Thanksgiving Day @ MK reach a stage 3 or 4???

I'm not sure, but I think Thanksgiving Day may rank right up there in terms of crowds with Christmas/ July 4th.

So a stage 3 or 4 closing is a definite possibility.

Though if I'm wrong, someone will come along to correct me.

[PrincessTiffany]

Originally Posted by SaraJayne

I'm not sure, but I think Thanksgiving Day may rank right up there in terms of crowds with Christmas/ July 4th.

So a stage 3 or 4 closing is a definite possibility.

Though if I'm wrong, someone will come along to correct me.

Thanksgiving Day will be very crowded, but I have never heard of them closing the parks on that day due to capacity issues.

[willowsnn3]

Originally Posted by PrincessTiffany

Thanksgiving Day will be very crowded, but I have never heard of them closing the parks on that day due to capacity issues.

I don't worry about getting in as we'll be there (MK) for rope drop, have lunch adr@ Plaza and late (9:40pm) adr at the castle. We originally planned to leave for awhile after lunch & return late for dinner. Now we're afraid we might not be able to return.......thinking we may just have to spend entire day @ MK. Guess we'll just have to play it by ear, lol.

[WDSearcher]

Originally Posted by dreamer423

Would I have an issue re-entering after CM lunch on SaT-DEC 19-THE day after last MVMCP-when park is open 9-11 and crowd calendar is 8?

No.

Originally Posted by 3floridarays

Thanks for all the great info! We will be there Dec 18-23, so I am mentally preparing myself for gridlock. It looks like we will be good for stage 3, and I figure if it went above that I wouldn't want to be in the park anyway.

You won't have gridlock Dec 18-23, nor will the park close at capacity. It has never done so that week. That week is usually crowded, but not anywhere near week-after-Christmas levels.

[tinka-belle]

Originally Posted by dreamer423

Would I have an issue re-entering after CM lunch on SaT-DEC 19-THE day after last MVMCP-when park is open 9-11 and crowd calendar is 8?

Thanks for op's.

Be aware that crowds on Main Street will be huge in the afternoon since 12/19 is the first Christmas parade open to the public and lots of people who skip the MVMCP line up for it early. Check the parade time and work around that, or when you re-enter scoot over to the stores and walk through them down Main Street. Otherwise I have not seen that day reach a phase 4.