Missing 6 year old boy found living with mother and grandmother

[PaulaSB12]

Has anyone seen this story?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...mas-house.html

If the father is found not to have harmed the child I hope he gets custody of him, because if he is innocent I can't see the mother being let to keep him.

[redrosesix]

Wow -- if he had that much trouble getting his son back (and he's a police officer) then it must be a miracle for anybody else to get theirs back.

It's sad that the kid had to go from being hidden in a house for 2 years to being in a foster home, simply because the mother claimed abuse as the reason for her abducting the child. IMO, anybody who would lock a child up like that shouldn't be considered a credible person. But since she handled things the way she did ie. it's been 2 years since she hid him, I think it would also screw up any chances of a successful case if she were telling the truth.

Sad -- that kid is going to need a lot of help.

[S. C.]

People say lots of untruths in custody battles. Our son was succesful in winning custody of his children, it was horrible with the accusations she made and what he had to go thru.

[shortbun]

I trust the instincts of the mother who was so afraid of the father that she felt she HAD to go to such lengths. I'd lay money that the man is violent. If not directly toward the child then at least towards her. Sad that this child is going to have such a contraversial life. He's undoubtably going to be scarred by his parents no matter what.

[Avalon_toon]

Originally Posted by shortbun

I trust the instincts of the mother who was so afraid of the father that she felt she HAD to go to such lengths. I'd lay money that the man is violent. If not directly toward the child then at least towards her. Sad that this child is going to have such a contraversial life. He's undoubtably going to be scarred by his parents no matter what.

Although I think it is possible the dad might have been abusive, I don't think the mom went to really great lengths to save her son - she did what was easiest for her - shut him up in her mom's house, never let him have a normal life again, while she went off to live a normal life - job, family, neighborhood. I don't think that indicates she was looking after his best interests at all. If she really wanted what was best for him and thought the dad was abusive, she could have fled to Canada or somewhere and started a new life with him - harder for her, but better for the boy... or, of course, she could have fought it out in the courts tooth and nail.

[The Mystery Machine]

Weird case, I don't know who to believe. A mom that locks up their kid for 2 yrs., like that is not playing with a full deck.

[kafitty]

Originally Posted by shortbun

I trust the instincts of the mother who was so afraid of the father that she felt she HAD to go to such lengths. I'd lay money that the man is violent. If not directly toward the child then at least towards her. Sad that this child is going to have such a contraversial life. He's undoubtably going to be scarred by his parents no matter what.

hmmmm....police officer and Iraq veteran, who says he "let the system work" to find his son, vs. a mom who kept her young son INSIDE for two years, in the same town the father lived in?

unfortunately, if there is one truth in life, it is that people can be absolutely CRAZY...and i'm going with it's the babymama on this one.

having family that has had parental child abduction issues, i can tell you for certain that the "mother's instincts" in my case were ABSOLUTELY, UNEQUIVOCALLY wrong, and i believe that to be the case here also.

[LoraJ]

If he really abused his son, wouldn't that have come up during the custody battle and been checked out then? He won custody of his son and I am sure the little boy was examined by a psychologist.

If she lost custody of him in the first place, there has to be a good reason. Drugs? Abuse?

[OceanAnnie]

Originally Posted by The Mystery Machine

Weird case, I don't know who to believe. A mom that locks up their kid for 2 yrs., like that is not playing with a full deck.

MTE. Strange.

[snarlingcoyote]

Well, considering that he's a police officer and military, he was probably fairly strict. To some folks that's abuse. (I'd say it's a difference in parenting styles. My DH's parents were fairly strict, mine were fairly tired of raising kids, and we both love our parents and turned out perfectly okay and neither one of us would say we had a bad childhood.)

My DH actually worked with someone who took his kid and ran - we had a family court judge in our area at the time who firmly believed that children should go with the mother, no matter what. This co-worker's ex was living with a known drug dealer (as this gave her easy access to the white stuff she'd started snorting, and, it is theorized, an income selling the stuff, as she had no visible means of support beyond her ex's child support) and the judge STILL awarded his ex full custody, apparently based on the theory that "children need their mother". Guy was even willing for his mom to raise his kid, if the judge wanted a woman for whatever reason. No go. Sick, sad case. (Privately, in our burg, we often wondered how this judge got away with some of his decisions. . .) Anyway, the guy apparently saved up his money, studied Spanish and disappeared with his daughter one day. I don't know of anyone who would've turned the guy in if they'd known where he was going.

That is totally different from hiding your kid at your mom's house, IMHO.

[S. C.]

Originally Posted by LoraJ

If he really abused his son, wouldn't that have come up during the custody battle and been checked out then? He won custody of his son and I am sure the little boy was examined by a psychologist.

If she lost custody of him in the first place, there has to be a good reason. Drugs? Abuse?

I agree! Even now it is hard for dad to win custody, and a lot of the courts are still very much against taking the kids from mom.

[disykat]

That's really sad. What we have is a case of two abusive parents or one. What the mom and Grandma did was abusive IMO, it remains to be seen whether the Dad was abusive. That poor child!

[Imzadi]

Originally Posted by The Mystery Machine

Weird case, I don't know who to believe. A mom that locks up their kid for 2 yrs., like that is not playing with a full deck.

Which parent was abusing the child?


Thankfully this child will need less therapy than Jaycee Dugard. Maybe more social catching up.

I hope the Dugard case has brought forward new investigations into old cases where children have gone missing. Unfortunately, I also wonder if this hasn't spooked abductors who have been keeping the children alive for years to suddenly kill their victims as they now fear they may be caught after all this time. (Of course, this is a parental abduction, not the same as a random kidnapping.)

[3boymthr]

I think the woman is a nut job. To lock a child away like that for two years is crazy. What did she think was going to happen when he got to be more than 4 ft high?

I find that the abuse card is played any time a person doesn't get their way in a custody battle. It happened to a co-worker's cousin - the divorce was acrimonious and the custody issues were worse. The minute he didn't get his way he accused her of child abuse - of course, no accusations came up until it looked like he was loosing custody and then suddenly she neglected the children - didn't feed them, never bathed them, spent all her time doing drugs, etc.

[PaulaSB12]

Originally Posted by shortbun

I trust the instincts of the mother who was so afraid of the father that she felt she HAD to go to such lengths. I'd lay money that the man is violent. If not directly toward the child then at least towards her. Sad that this child is going to have such a contraversial life. He's undoubtably going to be scarred by his parents no matter what.

He won temporary custody of his son shortly before the boy and his mother - Chekevdia's former girlfriend - disappeared in November 2007

The father won temporary custody and considering how hard it is for a father to do that it some what goes against him being violent, but they have to check and if he is innocent I hope he gets his boy back.