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Old 07-28-2009, 03:25 PM   #1
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Dis PB Monthly Assignment, 8/09: Get out the tripods - Shutter Speed & Low Light

Hi All,

I am going to start this early as I'll be busy over the next few days and I'd like to give everyone plenty of time to get started.

Can't wait to see what everyone comes up with!

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Really great work and participation on last month's assignment, Summer and Patriotism!

I thought we'd make it a little challenging this time around. I chose this subject based on requests on the "I'd like to bring back" thread as well as the number of requests for help with low light shots on the PB. It was also one of the most challenging things for me to learn.

I'm going to do a short tutorial here geared toward beginners, just to help you get started. The one thing I don't want is for you to skip this assignment because it's too "advanced". We'll all work together here to make it UNDERSTANDABLE and FUN for all.

If people who have an advanced understanding of this subject matter care to impart their wisdom, of course, it's welcome, too. Other sources include the book, Understanding Shutter Speed by Bryan Peterson and a few links, below; feel free to add others you think might be helpful.

Tutorial, Pea-n-Me style:

There are three parts to an exposure: aperture, shutter speed, and ISO. We are going to work with shutter speed this month. Shutter speed relates to how long the shutter stays open during any given exposure. The reason we get blur during nighttime or low light shots is that the shutter needs to stay open longer to allow enough light in, and any movement on the part of the camera OR the subject matter, even the slightest bit, will cause unintentional blur. How to avoid this? One of the best ways is to use a tripod, which keeps the camera still and allows the shutter to stay open to its heart's content, without blur - for still subjects.

Part I - Low Light

Which setting to use for low light? Experiment! You probably want to venture out of Auto since this will usually cause the flash to pop up, and we'd probably prefer to get shots without flash, as they look more natural and beautiful, and less harsh (though there are times that a flash can be used, we'll save that for another assignment). You could use Program, which is like Auto, but you can adjust the settings and the flash won't necessarily fire. You may need to raise the ISO if you are shooting in the dark, as little as you must to get the shot to avoid noise, or graininess. Or, you may find use of one of the creative, semi-auto modes on your camera helpful here, such as Night Scene, Night Portrait, Sunset, Candlelight, etc. With these, settings are pre-adjusted. You could also use Aperture, Shutter Speed or Manual modes on your camera. Try them all!

Tripods come in various styles: full size, travel, mini (< $10 @ WalMart), gorrilapod style are some, but they're available for every style and budget. Otherwise, the top of a trashcan, literally, will always do, the important thing being to keep the camera perfectly still. But for the purposes of this assignment, I hope everyone will try using a tripod.

Part II - Creative Use of Shutter Speed

The second part to this assignment, for those who want to try it, is creative use of Shutter Speed. This will yield those neat pictures that show trails of light, lush watefalls, or freezing of action, for example.

How to do? Set up your tripod and choose the Shutter Priority setting on your camera. There should be a knob or control bar that adjusts the shutter speed however you want it. Times range from extremely fast, to extremely slow. You want to deliberately pick on that's a little slow, such as 1/60 sec for daytime waterfall pictures, or quite slow, such as 4 seconds for nighttime light trail pictures; or very fast to freeze action. Play around with the settings and see what the options are. You may need to take lots of different shots to get some that you like. But once you do, you have a head slapping, "Ah Ha!" moment, and your subsequent possiblilities are endless.

With this assignment, keep in mind that aperture and ISO are also part of that exposure triangle, so that if you're having trouble with your photos coming out too light or too dark, you need to look at the three of those elements together and find the right exposure in order to get what you're trying to achieve. **Disclaimer, I had a difficult time with this myself until I finally got the hang of it. Keep trying!**

Here are some links:

http://www.articlesbase.com/art-and-...hy-495555.html

http://www.ehow.com/how_5020443_use-...otography.html
"Shutter speeds are expressed as fractions like 1/1000 and 1/60 or 30” if the time is long enough for whole numbers, in this case thirty seconds. Fractions can be a bit confusing if you aren’t accustomed to working with them so just remember, the smaller the bottom number the slower the shutter speed."

Remember, since the whole purpose here is to learn and try new techniques, we want to get NEW pictures. Post as many, as often as you like, and try to post EXIF data if you can so we can all learn from them.

Have fun!!
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Old 07-28-2009, 04:35 PM   #2
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Quite the little professor here!!! I like it!
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Great timing for this topic My new tripod just recently arrived from B & H and I'm itching to do some low light experimentation
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Old 07-28-2009, 08:46 PM   #4
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Old 07-28-2009, 09:06 PM   #5
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I actually took this handheld at 1/15 of a second. I think IS and having lots of light helped me out here. Definitely not a low light shot but a somewhat long shutter (as long as I could get it... any longer and it was overexposed).

This was taken on Sunday. I definitely need to get out more with the tripod, especially if I'm going to be shooting Wishes and Illuminations in 40 days.

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Old 07-28-2009, 10:05 PM   #6
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This sounds like fun. I have an idea I want to try out for fast and slow shutter speeds. Can't wait to see what everyone does.
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With 14 days until we leave for WDW this is one area that I have not practiced since getting my DSLR. So my DW and I left the kids at home tonight to go shoot some night shots. I really wanted to shoot some freeway over pass shots but could not find what I wanted. So we decided to head to one of our local strip malls (well it is a very nice strip mall). After taking a few practice shots I wound up setting the camera @ ISO 200 f/10 and mostly 4 sec.









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I recently returned from a trip to Carlsbad Caverns and took my tripod on the trek to the bottom in the Big Room, where the really large formations are.



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Thanks again for doing this, Linda! And I liked your tutorial - easy to understand, but not too much info that people are saying "huh?".

Now to figure out what to take photos of.....
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Shutter speed is something I have been playing with for the last two months so these from June and July are just about new:



Shutter speed: 1/125 sec
Aperture: 6.7
Exposure mode: Tv
ISO: 200
Lens: 70 to 200mm
Focal length: 149mm

The idea is to use a slower shutter speed than normal to reinforce the impression of speed. 1/125 is about two stops slower than I would normally use for race cars.



Shutter speed: 1 sec
Aperture: 11
Exposure mode: Tv
ISO: 200
Lens: 24 to 105mm
Focal length: 24mm

This is from using a very dark ND filter in daylight to get slow shutter speeds. The idea was to show some motion and the turntable moved slowly so 1 second seemed about right.



Shutter speed: 0.3 sec, 1/10 sec, 1.5 sec
Aperture: 6.7
Exposure mode: Av
ISO: 100
Lens: 24 to 105mm
Focal length: 55mm

This is from a HDR of three exposures. The ND filter was used to get a slow shutter speed for that flowing effect and to use a medium aperture for best sharpness.

More to come... in August.
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Excellent topic Linda! I am looking forward to it.
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Bumping up so we don't get lost!
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Nothing exceptional with this one. I took the new tripod out for a spin and took this around twilight under a canopy of trees



Shutter speed: 2.5 sec
Aperture: 18
Exposure mode: Manual
ISO: 200
Focal length: 40mm
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I finally got a chance to go over to our local boardwalk at night. Night photography is something I definately want to get some practice at. I love all the night WDW pics you guys post on here. So this was a good starting point for me.

This is an electric palm tree at the end of the pier that has a bar and restaurant on it.

ISO 800, 0.8 sec, f/16, 49mm



Just a bar along the boardwalk. I really need to get a remote shutter release. I wasn't even thinking while I was there. I used my kit lens, should have pulled out my 50 mm f/1.8 (DUH)

ISO 200,1.6 sec, f/29 55mm



Some rides in motion. These were fun to get, if only I could have cleared out the crowds.

ISO 400, 1/2 sec, f/16, 18mm


ISO 800, 1/6 sec, f/14, 18mm



ISO 800, 1/5 sec, f/14, 18mm


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