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Old 07-21-2009, 03:41 PM   #1
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Might Lose Job... Need Support!

Hi everyone!

I've only been at my current job for 8 months, I'm the newest person there. They just let 5 people go (we only had 26 people to begin with) due to the current economy. I'm terrified I'm going to lose my job.

I've had some health issues these past few months that has caused me to close down on my PTO. Today I was diagnosed with bronchitis, but told it may have been swine flu (which it wasn't, they swabbed me!), so I had to stay home today just in case.

At this point I only have 29 hours to last through the year, and I'm using 3 1/2 this Friday (a gift from my husband, billy joel and elton john concert - which my boss is trying to guilt me into selling the tickets... um, no).

I feel like I'm going to lose my job. I've started looking, but I can't find anything, not even in retail! I have 10 years of retail/restaurant experience, and I cannot find a thing. It is getting scary, as my DH and I can't live on his salary alone.

I just need support I guess. We have $20,000 in credit card debt between the two of us (we had a long distance relationship and charged "visits" for 3 years), I have $16,000 in student loans, and I'd like to go back to college to get my Master's, but with our debts I just don't see how I can. I'm stuck. No place is hiring and my place is firing!
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Old 07-21-2009, 04:24 PM   #2
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In this economy, if you want to preserve your status with an employer, you have to make yourself somewhat indispensable. You have to prove to your employer every single day that you are ready, willing and able to do your job to the best of your ability.

Now I'm not dismissing your health issues...things happen, folks get sick...and you act responsibly when you take the time necessary to get yourself healthy and make sure no one else gets sick. But you also have to realize that sometimes, its necessary to put off planned time off in order to make up for sick time taken.

Does this mean you SHOULD give up your time off for the concert? No...but it may be meaningful to your boss if you take the time to make sure he/she understands that this time was planned a long time ago and there is an economic cost to not using these tickets...then COMMIT to your boss that you will not take any additional time off unless absolutely necessary to make sure that the job is covered and the work of others doesn't suffer.
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Old 07-21-2009, 04:42 PM   #3
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In this economy, if you want to preserve your status with an employer, you have to make yourself somewhat indispensable. You have to prove to your employer every single day that you are ready, willing and able to do your job to the best of your ability.

Now I'm not dismissing your health issues...things happen, folks get sick...and you act responsibly when you take the time necessary to get yourself healthy and make sure no one else gets sick. But you also have to realize that sometimes, its necessary to put off planned time off in order to make up for sick time taken.

Does this mean you SHOULD give up your time off for the concert? No...but it may be meaningful to your boss if you take the time to make sure he/she understands that this time was planned a long time ago and there is an economic cost to not using these tickets...then COMMIT to your boss that you will not take any additional time off unless absolutely necessary to make sure that the job is covered and the work of others doesn't suffer.
I agree with every word you said, msmayor.

I'm sorry for your stress, OP.
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Old 07-21-2009, 04:58 PM   #4
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Not sure if this is an option at your job - but whenever I have to leave a little early I come in early that day to get a head start - even its an hour and a half earlier or so. Then you are showing you take your job seriously and are not putting any more work on someone else for you not being there.

Another thing to realize is if they are going to lay you off, you missing 3 1/2 hours Friday is not going to be the reason. Chances are they were going to lay you off anyways because you are the low man on the totem pole. I'm not saying your going to lose your job but you know its a real possibility and it sounds like you other absences were justified anyways.
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Old 07-21-2009, 05:00 PM   #5
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Also, you mention you have 29 hours to last thru the end of the year - that is 3 days and since its almost August I cant imagine you'd need 3 days in the next 4 months unless something seriously unexpected came up. Can you carry over days? We are allow to carry up to 4 days to the new year. Anything above that you get a check for the hours you didn't take off...
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Old 07-21-2009, 05:01 PM   #6
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In this economy, if you want to preserve your status with an employer, you have to make yourself somewhat indispensable. You have to prove to your employer every single day that you are ready, willing and able to do your job to the best of your ability.

Now I'm not dismissing your health issues...things happen, folks get sick...and you act responsibly when you take the time necessary to get yourself healthy and make sure no one else gets sick. But you also have to realize that sometimes, its necessary to put off planned time off in order to make up for sick time taken.

Does this mean you SHOULD give up your time off for the concert? No...but it may be meaningful to your boss if you take the time to make sure he/she understands that this time was planned a long time ago and there is an economic cost to not using these tickets...then COMMIT to your boss that you will not take any additional time off unless absolutely necessary to make sure that the job is covered and the work of others doesn't suffer.
I agree!!!
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Old 07-21-2009, 05:21 PM   #7
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I think 2 problems could be solved here.

-Selling the concert tickets would provide money which you are worried about losing. I would be listening to CDs if I had 35 K in debt that I was worried about paying off.
-That would also earn a few points with the boss for future job reviews.
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:23 PM   #8
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I left my last job about 9 months ago due to knowing that a bunch of us were about to be let go and I started looking for another job before they could get rid of me. I luckily got another (higher paying) more stable job before that happened. About a month ago 3 out of our 5 attorney's left our firm to start their own practice. My entire job was being a paralegal to two of those attorney's and the attorney that owns the firm was planning on retiring next year. It's been a scary month not knowing from one day to the next if I'm going to have a job. That being said I have been trying my best to secure my job. These are the things I've been doing:

1) I've been reading books from the library that have something to do with my job. It's free and there's books out there on giving better customer service, being a leader, etc. if you don't have "job specific" books to read.

2) I watch everything I use. I reuse paper, paper clips, turn my printer and computer off every night, etc. Every little cent saved could be the cent that saves my job.

3) At night I'll do typing lessons. They're free and found all over the internet. I've increased my accuracy and speed in just the past month (and I'm a pretty fast typer already).

4) I 'get' an hour lunch. I take 30 minutes or less depending on how long it takes me to eat (I don't get paid overtime). I don't take excessive bathroom breaks and I watch how much "chatting" I do at work. We also get free soda and chocolate at work (but it's also for clients). I bring my own drinks from home and don't eat the chocolate.

5) I ask my boss and other co-workers if there's ANYTHING I can do for them or take the initiative to do something myself. You never know who's talking to who so I want something great said about me if I come up in conversation. That may end up saving my job.

6) I pay the absolute MINIMUM on my credit cards and save anything over what I normally was paying on them. You may need to have that money to put towards living expenses if you lose your job.

7) Try to have the best attitude and professional appearance as possible. If it comes down to it being a pleasant person to be around may protect you from being fired and it might get the person who's always complaining let go.

8) Also, work on your resume and try to network. I have a lot of contact with financial advisors, accountants, etc. so I try to be extra friendly to them as I never know if I may be applying for a job in the future with them.

Good luck to you! Personally, I wouldn't go to the concert and I would sell the tickets. I know we all get sick but every place I have ever worked at when a person is out sick it gets the other employees talking, especially if you've been at the job less than a year (of course, there's always the "talkers" but you don't want your boss or someone important to be one of them!). Drink lots of O.J., exercise, and take vitamins (<-that's what my Mom would say ).
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Old 07-21-2009, 06:59 PM   #9
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Thank you for your advice!

I will sell the tickets... it will break my husband's heart, as it was my birthday gift, but he can use the $$ to bring me to dinner or something after work!

My medical problems have been documented, and that hasn't really been a huge issue. The time off has been, due to doctor's appointments in cities kind of far away, but I needed a specialist and they are located about an hour from here.

I can't really prove that I'm indispensable, I work in sales! I have made more sales than everyone on my team except one person, BUT I haven't proven that I have the consistency that my other teammates have. They've already gotten rid of 5 people, 3 were teammates of mine. That just puts me in a position where I know I'm next, I'm the newest, I'm the one with the least time in, and yes my PTO has been excused, but to ME it feels like I've used too much - when in reality, I probably haven't. But due to circumstances, I just feel so unstable.

They have all of these closed door, whispery meetings, that I just am not used to. Then they come out, call someone in, and they are given a red box to pack their stuff up. It is not a healthy work environment, when you think every Friday that it's going to be YOU that they will call into the office.

I appreciate the kind words, and you're right - taking time off for a concert is irresponsible. I'll just keep doing what I'm doing and hopefully I can keep my job (while looking for another one!).

Thanks again everyone - advice is so greatly appreciated!
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"they come out, call someone in, and they are given a red box to pack their stuff up. It is not a healthy work environment"...

No, it's not, I agree.

So are you truly the low man on the totempole? Because I'm reading that you have had 3 teammates fired already...were they lower than you? And the other 2 were lower as well? My husband worked at a company that, during their first big layoffs, conducted themselves horribly. He'd already been through the "dump all of Seattle customer service" layoff where they sent out a mass email telling people to gather their personal belongings and go to the local hotel ballroom for a meeting. The at the next company was even worse. He was literally the last person hired. And he survived. Then survived the next and the next and the next. He made himself as indispensable as he possibly could.


He recently dealt with another layoff (1.5 years after going back to the Seattle-layoff company, LOL). His whole department was closed, but to be kind (severance-wise) they called it a layoff. Half of his co-workers said there ws NOTHING out there. But he had probably 20 different pre-interviews and interviews inside of 2 months, just in that one company. While the others were saying there was "nothing".

So there might be truly nothing, I don't know; I don't know where you live. But it might just be that your'e looking in the wrong places. Look *everywhere*. If you have the sort of profession where networking will help, be sure you're on a site like linkedin dot com and even facebook, IF you have a professional sort of FB page. Hubby contacted old employers, old co-workers, just everyone. And the week before his dept closed, he had a contract job with his dream company...alas, contracting was not his dream way of being there, so when the same laying off company (the seattle customer service one) called AGAIN practically offering him a job, he took it and started next week.

So while some of his co-workers still don't have a job (almost 2 months after his dept closed, 4 months after they informed them it was happening), he's had one and is leaving it for another.

But again, your area might be different from ours, I don't know. I do know that I wish you luck!!!!!!
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From the sound of it, particularly the fact that the boss is trying to guilt you into selling the tickets, it's likely that you'll be let go any way. Think how upset both you and your husband would be at missing such a terrific evening. I wouldn't buy the tickets if the plans hadn't already been made, but I certainly wouldn't cancel them now.

After the concert, go to super budget mode and pay every penny you can on your credit card debt. If the Masters would definitely make you more marketable, go for it if you lose the job. It will keep you busy while you're looking for a new position and probably pay off in the end. You will likely increase your student loan debt, but it may be worth it.

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I don't know if this is relevant in your sales job, but I know my bosses notice accuracy a lot. We had this assistant who was a joy to work with personality-wise, but she had a mistake in nearly everything she did. Needless to say, she didn't last long. Perhaps double checking your work could help you keep your job. Maybe being proactive and asking your boss if there is any way he/she would like you to improve.

As for your budget, I would just do everything I could to put money in savings right now. Are there any ways you could cut back? Good luck and hugs!
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After the concert, go to super budget mode and pay every penny you can on your credit card debt.
Definitely! How much can you get back by cancelling your January trip?
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I'm torn on how I feel about the concert now. Since it is a birthday gift from your DH I would probably go (unless we're talking hundreds of dollars for tickets then I would feel guilty going, but of course, that's just me and my 2 cents ).
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In this economy, if you want to preserve your status with an employer, you have to make yourself somewhat indispensable. You have to prove to your employer every single day that you are ready, willing and able to do your job to the best of your ability.
Sadly, I did those exact things but found myself out of a job last Thursday, three months and one day before I get married. There were two of us let go (not because of job performance) - me and the gentleman who was second in the company.

I can't really offer any advice sadly - but keep your head up. I keep thinking that something will come along soon and that I'll be a stronger person because of this.
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