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Old 06-02-2010, 11:15 AM   #3151
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As far as I was aware, any theme park can close any ride as it sees fit, you are never guaranteed a particular ride will be open.
So if you bought a full price admission ticket to IOA but then were told to get out at 10am you wouldn't be upset? After all they can close any rides at any time.
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:17 AM   #3152
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I have a question on the thigh/leg room....very hard to tell in the photo for me, amybe because the length of the harness area looks long...but if anyone can comment on if the restraint is tight, pressing on top of their legs....not nit-picking, just curious and I know everyone is all different shapes and sizes..to me it looks as if the seat sort of dips down in back giving more seat area for the legs...I am curious because for motion , to me, having more support under the leg vs dangling makes me feel more secure..anyone?
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:20 AM   #3153
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So if you bought a full price admission ticket to IOA but then were told to get out at 10am you wouldn't be upset? After all they can close any rides at any time.
I think the differnece is in this case is that IOA is normally open everyday...WWoHP is still in SOFT openings, that meaning they can close it at anytime, without having to explain. Once the area is in full operational mode on June 18, then people have more reason to complain if they competly blocked off...

But again, you can walk into MK any given day and Splash Mt may be closed for unknown reasons, or any other ride for that matter...parks reserve the right to close rides if they see fit..
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I think the differnece is in this case is that IOA is normally open everyday...WWoHP is still in SOFT openings, that meaning they can close it at anytime, without having to explain. Once the area is in full operational mode on June 18, then people have more reason to complain if they competly blocked off...

But again, you can walk into MK any given day and Splash Mt may be closed for unknown reasons, or any other ride for that matter...parks reserve the right to close rides if they see fit..
Yes. But when I bought my package there was no differentiation made between pre-go and post-go. It was sold to me as a full price vacation pkg to visit WWoHP, PERIOD. It was not sold as a preview or as a soft opening. They screwed up.

IF when I get there they are still keeping the crowds very limited then I will probably be accepting of the 4 hour limitation. But that's just it. They seem to be at liberty to change the rules at any given time. For all I know by the time I get there they will be open to everyone, it will be packed to the gills, and they will STILL make us get out after 3 or 4 hours. Who knows? They apparently don't even know yet.

The whole source of my frustration is I shouldn't be left to guessing and speculation as to whether or not I am going to get what I paid for when it is only one week until my vacation.

If they could promise me it is going to be 4 hours BUT during those four hours it is going to be VERY low crowds, I'd be okay with that even though it wasn't what I was initially sold. They're not going to promise me anything though.

EDIT: okay, so I'm not going to respond to these things in this thread anymore--let this thread be for WW happy talk only. If anyone wants to debate the validity of my frustration further I'll be in the PreGrandOpening Package Holders Unite! thread.
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:27 AM   #3155
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So if you bought a full price admission ticket to IOA but then were told to get out at 10am you wouldn't be upset? After all they can close any rides at any time.
Well... if the park was closed due to a hurricane bearing down on us, then no, I wouldn't be upset at Universal.

Here's what I want to do on my vacation:

1. Stay in a real honest-to-goodness resort hotel - we've never stayed in anything fancier than a Best Western.

2. See the Wizarding World of Harry Potter and buy some souvenirs.

3. See all the other lands and rides in IOA and US. I'm particularly keen on the Spiderman and Mummy rides, but they all look great.

4. Swim (though that's dependent on weather, of course).

5. Eat in a different themed restaurant every day. I get a real kick out of seeing cool decor!

6. Hang with the family.

This will be our first trip to Universal, but we've been to Disney a few times. And every time we've gone there's been a few rides that are not operational. We wanted to ride Ellen's Energy Adventure, but sadly it was never running. We never got to finish the Great Movie Ride because it broke down in the Tarzan room, and we had to sit there with him swinging and yodelling over and over and over again for half an hour. We got stuck once on Small World, and that's a whole different definition of hell. Oh, and we once waited over two hours in line to ride Goofy's Barnstormer (when the wait time said 20 minutes!) and it was SO not worth it.

Oh yeah, and our first day at Expedition Everest we stood in line but didn't get to ride because some poor guy went and died on the coaster, and they shut the whole ride down. We had to come back the next day.

But we still loved each and every trip, and we don't feel that we were ever ripped off or that Disney didn't deliver. I never went to the parks just to see one ride. I went to see everything!

I'm not going to let rumours and speculation ruin my trip, before I even get there. I'm going to go and have a great time. (Assuming my plane isn't grounded in a snowstorm... man, that's the kind of adventure I can do without!)
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:29 AM   #3156
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In theory there are other times they can shut down early and abruptly without giving you a reason. FL is the lightning capital of the U.S. and most of the IOA rides are outdoors (and lots of water rides too) so there are plenty of times they shut it down due to bad storms. Same at Uni but not as bad of an effect because there are inside things to do.

Interestingly, Busch Gardens actually has a rain policy. It's the only park I know of offhand that does.

I still feel your pain with the whole package mess tho'. That's exactly why I scarfed a room on Memorial Day weekend. I had a feeling they would do softs some time after that, and then I would never have gotten four FJ rides in a two hour period. I'll liken it to Disney Cruise Line: Many times the adult pool is empty, but I still don't want them letting kids in even if the kiddie pool is crowded. I am paying a premium to sail on a ship that has those reserved areas (just as parents are paying a premium to have the kids clubs, which I don't use). If I was shelling out big bucks for a HP package, I would expect the crowd to be limited even if that meant everything was walk-on because that's what I'm paying for. There needed to be a buffer period between the packages and the softs, or else close it down after the morning then reopen later for GP softs.
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:33 AM   #3157
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The Wizarding World of Harry Potter - (6/2/10) Well the big news yesterday was that for the first time the Wizarding World of Harry Potter did indeed open briefly to the general public… early in the morning… and only for a few hours. But it did open… which is a good sign that we could seen daily soft openings from now on. Still, our sources tell us everything is still moving ahead, baby steps, one day at a time, as they work to make the Forbidden Journey ride more stable and less prone to lengthy breakdowns. I’ve heard from several sources now that one major factor in why the break-downs take so long is that the riders in the Flying Benches each have to be evacuated one bench at a time as the Kuka arms will pretty much just “freeze” in whatever position they were in when the ride’s system stops. It’s estimated that it’s been taking anywhere from 45-60 minutes on average to perform a complete evacuation of the ride before they can even think about attempting a restart.
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:35 AM   #3158
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Dumb question...arent the "soft openings" to the unwashed masses (aka the general public) only LIMITED? I could have sworn they were only letting in a few based on how many were in there for packages...

If thats the case...then its not like IOA dropped the walls and letting in everyone...they still keeping it monitored...

I am a passholder, yes I am bummed I am not getting a preview like we have for EVERYTHING else that has been done there, including HHN..but that does not mean I am any less interested..I will be there on 6/18 with the rest of the crowds..mainly star watching..LOL..!
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I am a passholder, yes I am bummed I am not getting a preview like we have for EVERYTHING else that has been done there, including HHN..but that does not mean I am any less interested..I will be there on 6/18 with the rest of the crowds..mainly star watching..LOL..!
There was no passholder preview for Rip Ride Rockit either.

But honestly, all the passholder events I've attended have been major fiascoes anyway. No crowd control, insane numbers of people...ugh. For HHN I just do Stay & Scream with the unwashed masses and get a lot moe done. For HP I would venture to say booking a hotel room night was much better and more uncrowded than any passholder preview would be. Sad but true since passholders are a mainstay for Uni.
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There was no passholder preview for Rip Ride Rockit either.

But honestly, all the passholder events I've attended have been major fiascoes anyway. No crowd control, insane numbers of people...ugh. For HHN I just do Stay & Scream with the unwashed masses and get a lot moe done. For HP I would venture to say booking a hotel room night was much better and more uncrowded than any passholder preview would be. Sad but true since passholders are a mainstay for Uni.

I was without passes for a bit, due to job loss, I only just got them again, but I had them for MANY years, and I agree, some of there events are a mess..LOL..but my fav event was the King Kong sendoff! I miss those days
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Yeah, I think things have gone downhill as they get bigger and the passholder numbers grow.

Oh well, I still wouldn't give up my Premier Pass for anything!
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How are the GUESTS being treated with disrespect? I agree that passholders have a legitimate complaint. I also agree that Universal seems to be flying by the seat of its pants during this initial test phase, and thus the inconsistent and contradictory information.

But package holders and hotel guests are getting guaranteed access to the Wizarding World for hours every day. And they're getting to enjoy this area without having to fight the crowds.

Why would package holders and hotel guests be offended that a few other random people also get to enjoy this privilege, to a somewhat lesser degree (getting in an hour or two later)? Does the fact that *they're* having a good time somehow sour it for you?

After the grand opening, it's going to be open to everyone and wall-to-wall people. All package holders and hotel guest will get after that is an hour's early access.

Yeah, I think Universal's giving their guests a pretty good deal right now. I wish I was there!
To me it seems like many are complaining about just that. Society has changed and become this viscous little world of, "me first, me first." "I'm special!!" It isn't hurting anyone if anything it will help out for a smoother experience later on.
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Old 06-02-2010, 12:53 PM   #3163
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I would just like to say that yesterday myself, 2 kids and hubbie walked straight into WWoHP at 1000. We have been in USA for 2 weeks and leave today but thought that we would chance it as the kids were desperate to see WWoHP.
Anyway, there was a guard line of TM's in front of the entrance who all guided us straight in with smiles on their faces telling us the 'preview' was open until 1030.

We have no special passes, pre booked tickets etc, just the general unwashed wanting to experience the magnificence of this world created by JKR.

I managed to take pictures of all shops, rides, Hogwarts Express, purchased 2 chocolate frogs and 2 pumpkin juices and then hubbie took the kids to buy a wand each. However, we were still there at 1030 so hubbie and son No1 went on FJ. We then purchased butterbeer in the TB restaurant and went back around the shops to purchase more goodies.

It was amazing, absolutely amazing. We left at 1200 and had more than enough time to experience exactly what we wanted to do. The shops are tight - good, they don't sell soda - good. Why would you want to experience the same merchandise and layout of all of the other parks??

I had a great time and it made the holiday for all of us. As a parting note my youngest son said to me 'aren't we lucky Mummy that we got to see it?' Now that's what I'm talking about!!!
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EDIT: okay, so I'm not going to respond to these things in this thread anymore--let this thread be for WW happy talk only. If anyone wants to debate the validity of my frustration further I'll be in the PreGrandOpening Package Holders Unite! thread.
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It's actually more fun in a way with lots of other people (NOT a huge crowd tho'). It's fun to see the kids in the wand shop, to talk to other people in the FJ line and to generally interact with othes and watch their enjoyment. On the few times we had to wait a long time for FJ we bonded with all the people around us who were just as excited as us and eager to chat about our shared experience. On the first day those of us who had not ridden yet were excited to hear about it from those who had.

As we were leaving, a TM in another area of the park noticed our WWoHP bag, so we stopped to show him our wand and several other guests gathered around. I felt so bad they didn't get to go in. They were so excited just to see the merchandise.

I still would be very displeased if Uni let in too many people and jacked up the lines as part of our enjoyment was the minimal waits and crowds. But to a certain extent other people make it a lot more fun.
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