Good/Bad Internet and eBay Pin Sellers

[Mike2023]

Has anyone ordered from www.mousepinsonline.com recently? I just got my grab bag or 100 pins and I would say at least 17 pins are questionable at best.

Will post pics soon,

Mike

[Broncobilly83]

Originally Posted by pixiewings71

I'm sorry but this information is wrong, Sedesma and Europins HAVE the copyright stamp but they are no longer to be traded with CM's at the parks. They have the copyright because they were at one time authorized to produce Disney pins, but Disney was not happy with the quality so they revoked the contracts with both of those companies. I have no idea who Steven Miller is and have never been to WDW but my information comes from the pin trading guides at DLR. But I would be interested to know what he has to say about them.

Did we ever find out what was said?

[earthfaries]

Originally Posted by Broncobilly83

Did we ever find out what was said?

I apologize, I meant to ask but was so busy trading at the trading event I didn't have time to leave my table and completely forgot !!
For now I would just suggest going by the guide ~~ the Pinformation guide available around the Disney parks to this day ~~ and it says ANY pin with (c) Disney is tradeable with a cast member. There are no exceptions listed and it does not mention Sedesma at all.
I always carry the guide with me when pin trading in case a CM tells me I can't trade a pin that I may have found on a lanyard that only says (c) Disney because for example it's pre 2000 ~~ then I can show them the guide and they take the trade
I WILL ask him next month for sure ~~ and in the meantime I will ask around at Disney ~ I'm actually on my way to the MK right now and will ask about specifics.
Have Fun

[pixiewings71]

Just wanted to give a bump.

I also asked a WDW CM who used to be a DLR CM and posts on the DLR board about Sedesma and Euro pins. She did say they are told to take ANY pin as long as it's metal and has the Disney copyright on the back......so now I don't know, I was always told Sedesma are absolutely NOT tradeable but maybe things have changed.....

[surfergirl602]

Hey fellow pin traders: I just wanted to give you a name to add to the DO NOT BUY FROM list.

the ebay seller is: tradepinsforyou

I seached extensively for reviews on this seller and couldn't find any, so we went ahead and purchased from him because he has a good refund policy and good feedback.
We have 6 people that will be pin trading during our up coming trip, so we purchased 300 pins. We ordered on saturday and received our package on Monday. Fast shipping!

Everything looked legit as I opened the package... the pins were not in individual baggies, but were grouped in padded packages of 100. Opened the first bag... all the pins seemed good - we had actually traded some of the pins on previous trips and they looked and felt just like the ones we had bought as sets.

On to the second bag... I started going through them... and noticed that each and every pin was the exact pin that was in the first bag. Every single one of them. I haven't opened the third bag yet, but I suspect I will find the same exact pins in that bag as well. I sent an email to the seller (I was nice about it) and am waiting for his reply.

90% of the pins all feel like correct weight, color, etc. There are some I am iffy about, but the three bags of all the same pins really irks me. SOOOO....

buyer beware - don't buy from this guy despite his great feedback!
I can see that if someone just bought a lot of 100, they would have absolutely no idea that if they had ordered 200, they would have received the same pins... twice!

[surfergirl602]

I got a reply back from the seller:

Hello,

I offer a 100% return policy on all my purchases if you are unhappy with the pins for any reason. For a return, just ship the entire order back to the address listed on the box and if you can please let me know the tracking number when it ships so I can keep an eye out for it. As soon as I get the pins back, I will issue you a full and complete refund including original shipping.
- tradepinsforyou


It mentions nothing of the pins being official as his auction states, which is what I asked about. My reply:

Thank you for having such a great refund policy. I am however, still very curious why all your bags have the exact same pins in them. How can these be official disney pins that have been traded/traded for if they are all duplicates? Thank you so much for the quick reply.

[Dzny-pins-UK]

If you are buying "BULK" pins from Ebay then generally they are scrappers. Especially if it's "too good to be true" price.
If they are so cheap, think why? or how can a seller sell them that cheap?.

[thelionqueen]

Originally Posted by surfergirl602

Hey fellow pin traders: I just wanted to give you a name to add to the DO NOT BUY FROM list.

the ebay seller is: tradepinsforyou

I seached extensively for reviews on this seller and couldn't find any, so we went ahead and purchased from him because he has a good refund policy and good feedback.
We have 6 people that will be pin trading during our up coming trip, so we purchased 300 pins. We ordered on saturday and received our package on Monday. Fast shipping!

Everything looked legit as I opened the package... the pins were not in individual baggies, but were grouped in padded packages of 100. Opened the first bag... all the pins seemed good - we had actually traded some of the pins on previous trips and they looked and felt just like the ones we had bought as sets.

On to the second bag... I started going through them... and noticed that each and every pin was the exact pin that was in the first bag. Every single one of them. I haven't opened the third bag yet, but I suspect I will find the same exact pins in that bag as well. I sent an email to the seller (I was nice about it) and am waiting for his reply.

90% of the pins all feel like correct weight, color, etc. There are some I am iffy about, but the three bags of all the same pins really irks me. SOOOO....

buyer beware - don't buy from this guy despite his great feedback!
I can see that if someone just bought a lot of 100, they would have absolutely no idea that if they had ordered 200, they would have received the same pins... twice!

Not trying to be anything but helpful here, so I apologize in advance if I come across in a way that is too direct.

If you are buying 300 pins from one seller in one auction from ebay, they are fake, period. No legitimate pin trader, buyer could possibly sell huge lots like that for so cheap. I'm guessing that you paid around a buck or two for these pins, probably less.

I am SO happy that you got the information you needed from these boards, and have sent back the pins. THANK YOU SO MUCH for doing the right thing!! Kudos to you for making the decision and using the information here to do what many don't.

I just wish there were some way to STOP these people from selling these..what is going on that is taking so long? It is SO frustrating!

In general, anyone reading this thread, who has an ebay seller in their sights who is selling HUGE lots of pins for around a buck...THEY ARE FAKE!!! That is as simply as I can put it. You don't need to research, you don't need to look on the red or green lists of sellers, THEY ARE FAKE period! There is absolutely NO OTHER explanation, NONE whatsoever at all. PLEASE use common sense when purchasing pins.

If you are wanting to trade pins in Disney, and are thinking of trading 50 per person each, you should be thinking of the actual cost to do so, which is between $400-800 dollars per person. That is the cost of Disney pins when buying them from Disney. If you really want to buy legit pins, you can find people (myself included) who sell occasionally for $2-$3 per person, which is still over $100 each.

This hobby is NOT cheap, nor was it intended to be (it is Disney after all people). Buy REAL pins from the pin traders locations in the parks and do what was intended, trade AUTHENTIC pins for AUTHENTIC pins. When the practice comes back to this place (if it ever does) you won't need hundreds to trade each trip, just a few here and there is great.

There are plenty of other things to do in Disney that are great fun and cost MUCH less!! Penny press collections are a BLAST and accessible.

I feel like I'm standing on a soap box preaching and I truly don't mean to. I just HOPE anyone who reads this, who is contemplating buying huge lots for SUPER CHEAP just DON'T DO IT. Please, use common sense, if it seems to good to be true, IT IS.

[surfergirl602]

Originally Posted by thelionqueen

Not trying to be anything but helpful here, so I apologize in advance if I come across in a way that is too direct.

If you are buying 300 pins from one seller in one auction from ebay, they are fake, period. No legitimate pin trader, buyer could possibly sell huge lots like that for so cheap. I'm guessing that you paid around a buck or two for these pins, probably less.

I am SO happy that you got the information you needed from these boards, and have sent back the pins. THANK YOU SO MUCH for doing the right thing!! Kudos to you for making the decision and using the information here to do what many don't.

I just wish there were some way to STOP these people from selling these..what is going on that is taking so long? It is SO frustrating!

In general, anyone reading this thread, who has an ebay seller in their sights who is selling HUGE lots of pins for around a buck...THEY ARE FAKE!!! That is as simply as I can put it. You don't need to research, you don't need to look on the red or green lists of sellers, THEY ARE FAKE period! There is absolutely NO OTHER explanation, NONE whatsoever at all. PLEASE use common sense when purchasing pins.

If you are wanting to trade pins in Disney, and are thinking of trading 50 per person each, you should be thinking of the actual cost to do so, which is between $400-800 dollars per person. That is the cost of Disney pins when buying them from Disney. If you really want to buy legit pins, you can find people (myself included) who sell occasionally for $2-$3 per person, which is still over $100 each.

This hobby is NOT cheap, nor was it intended to be (it is Disney after all people). Buy REAL pins from the pin traders locations in the parks and do what was intended, trade AUTHENTIC pins for AUTHENTIC pins. When the practice comes back to this place (if it ever does) you won't need hundreds to trade each trip, just a few here and there is great.

There are plenty of other things to do in Disney that are great fun and cost MUCH less!! Penny press collections are a BLAST and accessible.

I feel like I'm standing on a soap box preaching and I truly don't mean to. I just HOPE anyone who reads this, who is contemplating buying huge lots for SUPER CHEAP just DON'T DO IT. Please, use common sense, if it seems to good to be true, IT IS.

Well, just needed to add to your little soapbox tirade j/k, they weren't "super cheap". I paid 500 bucks for the lot, so I wouldn't call that "cheap".

ETA: the seller finally got back to me - NEVER answered my question about the pins, but will refund my money plus shipping. Trying somewhere else. Pincastle.com perhaps?

[pixiewings71]

Originally Posted by surfergirl602

Well, just needed to add to your little soapbox tirade j/k, they weren't "super cheap". I paid 500 bucks for the lot, so I wouldn't call that "cheap".

ETA: the seller finally got back to me - NEVER answered my question about the pins, but will refund my money plus shipping. Trying somewhere else. Pincastle.com perhaps?

$500/300 pins = $1.66 a pin, that's what LionQueen means by cheap. Not that you didn't pay a lot for them but what you paid per pin is cheap in comparison to park prices.

We are taking a Disney break, I've got pins I'm trying to buy from eBay and pins I'm going to list on eBay. I will be listing my pins for a minimum of $2.00 a pin for common singles, sets will go for a price consistent with how many pins are in the set, LE's will be higher based on the availability/popularity of the pin. I will also be charging shipping for most of them. My pins are legit, not scrappers and I do not want to lose money on them so I will be listing for higher prices depending on the pin. Pins aren't cheap, pin trading isn't a cheap hobby. If you're wanting to trade 300 pins on your trip you should figure on spending about $1500 to be honest. Good luck, I'm not sure who you should buy from in those quantities, when I was buying traders I would buy in lots of 20-30 but not more than that, altho I did buy from Pinderellas_Castle and received 80 good traders from her. All rack pins, on the backings, I even took some of the pins into the park and compared the backings in the store and they were legit.

[pixiewings71]

I bought some pins from Gitanoman, just wanted to report they looked great.

[earthfaries]

I bought some pins from flame*o*chist and they were great ~~ I just ordered a lot more!!

I also ordered again from bizzybee1 and his were wonderful as usual

I ordered 2 pins from june21910 and they were also great

[pixiewings71]

Just a quick note, I checked out flame o christ as posted above and yes, there are some nice pins there but they also have a LOT of FANTASY pins up. Fantasy pins are NOT tradeable to CMs in the parks, they are tradable with individual traders (I have some myself) but not to CMs. Just a word of caution.

[earthfaries]

Originally Posted by pixiewings71

Just a quick note, I checked out flame o christ as posted above and yes, there are some nice pins there but they also have a LOT of FANTASY pins up. Fantasy pins are NOT tradeable to CMs in the parks, they are tradable with individual traders (I have some myself) but not to CMs. Just a word of caution.

Definitely only buy Fantasy pins for yourself, your friends or for trading with fellow traders ~~ not for trading with CM's ~~ there are some awesome ones!!

Flame o Chist has the coolest pin I've seen ~ I bought a bunch for my family and friends ~~ it's a nice pin, silver spray bottle with a shark wearing a pin lanyard and it says "Pin Shark Repellant" LOL

[pixiewings71]

LOL I didn't see that one earthfairies....LOL I definitely would love that one. LOL