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Old 06-13-2009, 03:07 PM   #91
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Glad you guys are back for another trip.
I laughed out loud at "Brian is Catholic, he has a lot of sisters." I'm seventh of seven, I can.
If you don't mind me asking-I thought I saw something about you guys celebrating your anniversary-is that something you celebrate?
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I'll answer for my sister. Yep, Jehovah's Witnesses celebrate anniversaries.
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I have been MIA from the DIS for a few weeks so I am slowly catching up on all of my subscribed threads.

I also did not know about the build your own hat at DTD - I did not know you could do that at the MK either until the end of our last trip. So I think we will have to try that next time.

I am the family photographer so I loved the photo of your toes to prove you were there! Corey takes great photos so we get to see you sometimes. The few times I have trusted my DH or others to take care of the photo taking I was not very pleased with the results.

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I laughed out loud at "Brian is Catholic, he has a lot of sisters." I'm seventh of seven, I can.
If you don't mind me asking-I thought I saw something about you guys celebrating your anniversary-is that something you celebrate?
I know Heather answered, but I'll answer again. Yep, we celebrate anniversaries! And, if I do say so myself, Heather and I gave my parents THE BEST anniversary party EVER a few years ago!!! People STILL talk about it!

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I also did not know about the build your own hat at DTD - I did not know you could do that at the MK either until the end of our last trip. So I think we will have to try that next time.

I am the family photographer so I loved the photo of your toes to prove you were there! Corey takes great photos so we get to see you sometimes. The few times I have trusted my DH or others to take care of the photo taking I was not very pleased with the results.

Looking forward to your next update!
I'm glad you liked my toes! Brian takes good pictures, but he doesn't take good pictures of what I find important. So, I like to take most of the pictures. Corey has his own camera, so he also takes a lot, which is nice. He is saving this summer for some fancy shmancy DSLR camera with video.

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Sorry Kristine!! I have the next installment mostly written, but I need to go back and make it interesting now! And add pictures! I think things should slow down this week, and as long as I don't get sick (which seems to happen every other week lately, and this would be the week) I will get to work on this!!! I want to get through the next day, which was not so good and onto some of the fun stuff we did! Although, not so good days are the most interesting to read about!!!
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The timeshare tour wasn't until 10:30, so we didn't need to rush around too much in the morning. I started packing up our things and then Corey and Brian got up, got ready to go down to breakfast.






I told Corey that the front desk had told us that we had VIP seating for breakfast so if he saw something about VIP, that was where he should sit.
He looked at me as if I were nuts, but agreed.

He's a good kid like that, he thinks I'm crazy, but he usually listens anyway!

I told him I'd meet them down there soon when the girls were ready.

While the girls were getting dressed, I called the front desk to ask if we could have a late check out.

I was planning on leaving Corey to watch the girls in the room while Brian and I went on the timeshare tour. As I mentioned before, this hotel had CABLE!!! So, the kids were pretty pleased with the idea when I told them.

At home we were getting 1/2 a channel if we were luck.
Let's here it for the Digital Upgrade!!
NOT!
Stupid thing, we could rarely ever get anything in! I recently gave up the ship and ordered very basic cable for $10 a month. I think it's worth it not to be constantly wrestling with the rabbit ears and stupid convertor box! I despise that stupid thing!

Umm, where was I??? Oh yah, late checkout...

They were very nice and agreed to a 1PM checkout. This gave us over 2 1/2 hours to get through the timeshare tour and get back. Since the tour was only suppose to be 90 minutes, it was plenty of time.

The girls got dressed. They decided they wanted to match



each other anyway....

and I got down to breakfast at 9:00 and Arminda made a waffle.
Yumm, waffles...

I was helping Lydia get her things, and I noticed all the food was being put away.

Lydia wanted a yogurt

as I made a flying leap for the yogurt, an employee shut the yogurt fotress up tight and locked it!l

Wow, that must be some very valuable yogurt to keep it under lock and key like that!!!

I did convince the employee to let me have one of the very valuable yogurts (VVY) and a doughnut. MMMM.... I love doughnuts....

Apparently, breakfast ended at 9AM and not 9:30, woops!

We found enough food and then found Brian and Corey sitting in the VIP section. Brian was pretty pleased to be sitting there! There was more food in this section (just a few things) and they brought coffee right to the table.

We sat and ate and talked a bit and then went back to the room to finish packing up and getting ready. I told Corey that they were not to leave the room while we were gone and to call us on our cell phone if they needed anything. Brian and I kissed the kids good-bye and headed on out.

As we were going through the parking lot, Brian saw this truck



and wanted me to take a picture of him by it!


Kind of cool, huh?

And even cooler that Brian wanted a picture in front of it!

Then, we were on our way!
Well, first, Brian wanted to make sure I got a picture of the antenna topper I'd bought the night before. He liked the way it matched the van:


Woops, I guess I really didn't get much of the van in the picture!

The timeshare, Calypso Cay

was just a few miles down the road, so it didn't take long to get there.

After we checked in with the front desk,


another couple came in.
There was a bit of a problem, because they had been told there would be a meal and to come hungry. They followed the directions and arrived very hungry.
Unfortunately, there had been a miscommunication and there was no meal. The wife had to take medication that needed taken with food.
The husband was polite but visibly upset when they were told that there was nothing they could do for them.
I thought that they probably could have found these people a bagel or something, but they didn't give them anything.
I felt bad for them.

We waited awhile and then Alberto came out to greet us. He asked us some general questions about when we arrived and where we were staying. We had booked several hotel nights with a timeshare tour package. We were suppose to tour a resort the next day, but since it was Arminda's birthday the next day, we needed to get to the parks instead. The tour company fixed it so that we could tour a day early but not at the resort we were staying at. This confused Alberto when we tried to explain it to him too. When he finally figured it out, he started to get a bit of an attitude with us. (Imagine that, a timeshare guide getting an attitude, will wonders never cease??) When we sat down and he went through the normal timeshare speal, we were able to tell him that we owned our own timeshare that we loved. We explained to him that we liked to go there every year.

Alberto told us that it sounded like we already had something that would work for us and that he was going to show us why we would hate purchasing what he had to offer.

Obviuosly we though this was rather odd, but I was hoping it would get us out of there early. Of course, Alberto had to go through the rest of his presentation anyway.

Alberto bragged to us how he had come into this country as an illegal alien.
Which, I must say, did not impress either Brian or I in the least.
He had a story about how he slept on a yellow blow up raft for his first year in this country.

I'm pretty sure his wasn't in the water when he was sleeping on it though.

That is, until he discovered this wonder called

TIME SHARE!!!

It turned his life around,

IT


WAS

AMAZING!

He bought the timeshare, although he couldn't afford anything to sleep on except that $1.50 raft,
because as he explained,
he didn't have enough money for the $4.00 one.

Oh to dream!

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To prove to us what a great guy he was, he told us that before going to work selling timeshares, he had worked for Disney. He even showed us his old Disney ID.



oooooohhhhh.....impressive.....

He then showed us very old pictures of vacations he had taken,

all thanks to:





!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THE WONDER OF TIMESHARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



He then showed us pictures of a house,

with him in it.

He claimed that it was his house...........

How could he,



an illegal alien,




have such a wonderous house???


HOW you ask???







TIME SHARE!

Oh my what a wonderous thing this timeshare is!!!!



But, of course, Alberto told us, we wouldn't want any of this, since we were happy with our timeshare and liked coming to Orlando.

Out of formality sake, he needed us to write down 5 different places we wanted to travel to. He handed us a form and told us to write down our vacation spots.

We started filling out the form, and then Alberto came back and told us we had to fill out everything on the form. It was full of lots of questions, such as "How much would you need to put away each month for your dream vacation?" Brian and I had only come up with three places we wanted to travel to, but quickly wrote down two more just so we could get out of this place.

Of course, Alberto was SHOCKED to see that we hadn't wrote down "Orlando" for every vacation we wanted to take!
He was TRULY confused!



Poor guy, he confuses easily.



I reminded him that he had told us to write down different spots, but he insisted that this meant we weren't happy just coming to Orlando every year.
And, oddly, even though Brian and I both told him he was wrong,
he insisted he was not!
Then, he jumped on how much we had put that we would need for our dream vacation,
insisting that this was the amount that we were currently saving a month for our yearly vacation,
even though we tired to explain to him that we didn't actually spend that much.

Things were starting to get pretty nasty!

At one point Alberto asked where our children were and we explained that our 17 year old son was watching the two younger kids in the hotel room. He accused us of child abuse for leaving the kids in the room instead of taking them to a Disney Park.

Yep, seriously, he did!

Alberto also told us that our current timeshare was breaking the law because it allowed 6 people to stay in a one bedroom room. Our timeshare has a bedroom, and then in the living area there is a Murphy bed and a fold out couch. Perfect for our family. He insisted though that they were breaking the law by allowing this.

I mentioned to Alberto that we really needed to wrap up the tour soon, because we had to check out of our hotel, and it was already 1:00. He told me, "That does not matter to me."

Obviously, there was no reasoning with a person like this, so I'm not sure why I bothered trying!

At this point, the couple that we had seen in the lobby told their tourguide that they had already been there for over 90 minutes and that was all they were told they needed to stay. The tourguide got very upset with them and told them they could not leave until the tour was over or they would have to pay $500. They couple told her that they had already fulfilled their obligation, and needed to leave so the wife could eat. The tourguide told them they were free to go, but they would be charged.

The couple left with the tourguide to tour a room. We followed them out.
They were ahead of us aways, and Alberto told us that he could not believe the tourguide had argued with the couple.

I thought perhaps Alberto wasn't so much of a jerk as I had thought he was, until he uttered his next thought:
"She should have told them to leave and charged them the $500. What you people need to remember is WE are the ones that give you your vouchers, if you make me mad, you don't get it. You be nice to me, I will give you your voucher. If you are not, I will not give it to you. What are you going to do, complain to my boss? My boss doesn't care, complain to him, he will laugh in your face, he doesn't care."
I was pretty stunned by this statement, but it got better...

"One time we had a couple in here who complained about how long the tour took. So, we made them sit waiting for their voucher for 4 hours. Then, we gave it to them and told them to take it to Disney World to get their tickets"
he laughed hysterically here
"But,of course, it was no good at Disney!!!!"
more laughing....
"So, they had to come back here and turn it in for their tickets!!"
laughing, laughing and more laughing....
"So, we took their voucher and gave them their tickets. We made them wait two days!!!"
laughing....
"Oh, we have lots of stories like that, we sit around telling them and just laughing. Yep, you have to be nice to me."

Honestly, I was feeling pretty uneasy with this guy at this point. But, we didn't have the extra money to hightail it out of there! We needed the voucher he would give us to pay for our hotel for the next few nights. At this point, if it had just been Disney tickets, I would have left.

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I figured I better try to get this going in our direction a little bit.

So, I started asking him about his family. He told us how his family had come into this country because of him (he had become a legal citizen somewhere along the line, apparently) and he could send them back to Mexico anytime he wanted to if they didn't do what he wanted.

So, I asked him about his Mom. He was nicer talking about his mother at least.

Finally we got to the tour unit.



I asked Alberto if all the rooms had the bunkbeds set up like this room, with the glass wall and if there were curtains.
To which he replied.
"It doesn't matter, you will never have this."

And, when he showed us another unit, he announced it by saying,

"THIS is what YOU will NEVER have."




to which I couldn't help muttering,
"Thank goodness...."

In the last unit, we met up with the couple we had been seeing all along. I started chatting with the husband, who amazingly was still smilng and laughing.

I can't say that I was in such a jolly mood myself!

After an eternity, we were finally led to the final interrogation room.

Alberto gave us the price,

we said no,

then we were told to wait until the manager could talk to us.

There were four couples ahead of us, and it was taking a long time!


Brian looks THRILLED, doesn't he!

So, we called Corey to let him know what was going on. I told him to call the front desk to let them know it would be a bit longer. I also told Corey to make sure everything was packed up and ready to move out. Everything should have been packed, but I wanted him to check to make sure we weren't forgetting anything.

While we were waiting, we overheard Alberto talking to two other employees about the couple we had been seeing.
It was not to tell what a great sense of humor the guest had had either.

They were recounting how they should have been kicked out or made to wait longer. This was all within easy earshot of the couple they were talking about and any other guests in the room.

Classy joint this Calypso Cay.

Finally we were ready to meet with the mangager.
Of course, he asked how Alberto treated us, and since we did not have our voucher yet, we said, "ok."
The manager then showed us a cheaper deal, and then showed us another deal for a one bedroom condo that slept 6......

hmm.... odd....I thought that was against the law....

We refused, and then were told another employee needed to talk to us.

Thankfully, the last employee came over quickly. She offered to let us come back to stay at the resort for a very reasonable price, which had we been treated decently, we probably would have taken her up on. But, there was no way I was staying at that place after this!

So, finally, we had our voucher in hand and went to get it traded in for our tickets.

I held my breath as the employee ran the voucher through to check it's validity. I could just see Alberto messing up something. With tickets and hotel voucher in hand, I proceeded to state my true feelings about Alberto to anyone in earshot..
much to Brian's embarassement...
Not that he didn't agree, but he doesn't like to rehash things like this the way I feel the need to.

Which, I suppose is why he would never consider writing a trip report to rehash it further with people he didn't really know......



When we got back to the hotel, the kids were ready to go, and only a few things needed to be shoved,

umm, I mean

oh so carefully packed away in a suitcase.

We checked out of the hotel and headed on over to our new residence for the next several days, the

Liki Tiki Village!!

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