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Old 07-31-2009, 09:25 PM   #796
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What is the take from the veterans on the Wine View Loughe? Good idea? Waste of money?
Opinion only: I loved PFTS and thought it was worth $135, but just barely. I do not think it is worth $210 + taxes. I could eat well at Todd English's bluezoo or Victoria & Albert's for that price and be served. And have a seat. End of opinion.
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Old 07-31-2009, 10:29 PM   #797
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Opinion only: I loved PFTS and thought it was worth $135, but just barely. I do not think it is worth $210 + taxes. I could eat well at Todd English's bluezoo or Victoria & Albert's for that price and be served. And have a seat. End of opinion.
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Old 08-01-2009, 01:08 AM   #798
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What is the take from the veterans on the Wine View Loughe? Good idea? Waste of money?
No one knows, it's new this year. We'll have to wait until at least the first party on 9/26 to find out anything.
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Old 08-01-2009, 01:14 AM   #799
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Should be interesting to see what the Wine View room is all about. This is the only F&W event that we are doing, other than the WS kiosks, since we are only in WDW for a long weekend, so we're springing for the upcharge. The secured seating thing never bothered me . The first year I went we met up with some wonderful DISers and we shared tables, but last year I went with a friend and we just worked our way around the room. If we saw an empty table or 2 empty seats fine, but it wasn't that big a deal to us.
I wouldn't care about the table so much either, if people didn't hog tables all night. The first year I went solo, and whenever I just wanted to stop for a minute to eat something, I'd ask if I could just use their table for a minute so I wouldn't have to eat with my hands full. Most people didn't have a problem, and I had quite a nice few chats. But some people were very stubborn, and would say it's there table, even though they had tons of space, and I would've only been there for a minute.

I think when Disney designed this, they thought everyone would roam around all night and move from table to table, and just stay put all evening. And now they must've figured out they can make extra money by guaranting a seat, (which I wouldn't care about at all if I weren't solo,) and perhaps even holding out the good wines for those wishing to pay extra. Which I know other places do the same thing, and this might not even be the case, but I think a lot of people are used to it being a one price for all admission, and Disney is just hoping to make some extra money from it.
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Old 08-01-2009, 09:16 AM   #800
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I wouldn't care about the table so much either, if people didn't hog tables all night. The first year I went solo, and whenever I just wanted to stop for a minute to eat something, I'd ask if I could just use their table for a minute so I wouldn't have to eat with my hands full. Most people didn't have a problem, and I had quite a nice few chats. But some people were very stubborn, and would say it's there table, even though they had tons of space, and I would've only been there for a minute.

I think when Disney designed this, they thought everyone would roam around all night and move from table to table, and just stay put all evening. And now they must've figured out they can make extra money by guaranting a seat, (which I wouldn't care about at all if I weren't solo,) and perhaps even holding out the good wines for those wishing to pay extra. Which I know other places do the same thing, and this might not even be the case, but I think a lot of people are used to it being a one price for all admission, and Disney is just hoping to make some extra money from it.
I honestly think that it has never been made clear to PFTS goers that it was not designed as a sit-down affair. Hence, the unhappy patrons who "never found a seat" or those of us who would have loved to have a spot to perch whilst juggling being told that the table was taken.

And I agree that Disney has figured out how to make more money.
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Old 08-01-2009, 09:52 AM   #801
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I honestly think that it has never been made clear to PFTS goers that it was not designed as a sit-down affair. Hence, the unhappy patrons who "never found a seat" or those of us who would have loved to have a spot to perch whilst juggling being told that the table was taken.
That's a really great point. I also think in their quest to make more and more money they started cramming more and more people into PFTS, exacerbating the problem that you just pointed out.


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And I agree that Disney has figured out how to make more money.
I really don't want to turn into a Nagative Nelly but I do want to say this: I don't have a problem with them trying to make more money or capitalizing on a popular event but I have real issues with the price increases we've seen over the past five years coupled with andecline in quality and variety, both inside and outside the F&W Festival.

We'll still have a grand time this Fall ... going out with a bang, so to speak, since we will not be back next year ... but I suspect we will begin spending our time and dollars investigating other F&W events around the country after this year. We're already planning to hit Vegas Uncorked next spring.

Anyhoo ... best wishes for everyone on the 11th to grab all the special reservations they want. I hope you all have wonderful and tasty trips this year!
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Old 08-01-2009, 10:50 AM   #802
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That's a really great point. I also think in their quest to make more and more money they started cramming more and more people into PFTS, exacerbating the problem that you just pointed out.




I really don't want to turn into a Nagative Nelly but I do want to say this: I don't have a problem with them trying to make more money or capitalizing on a popular event but I have real issues with the price increases we've seen over the past five years coupled with andecline in quality and variety, both inside and outside the F&W Festival.

We'll still have a grand time this Fall ... going out with a bang, so to speak, since we will not be back next year ... but I suspect we will begin spending our time and dollars investigating other F&W events around the country after this year. We're already planning to hit Vegas Uncorked next spring.

Anyhoo ... best wishes for everyone on the 11th to grab all the special reservations they want. I hope you all have wonderful and tasty trips this year!
The price increases are getting to be crazy. The first year I went to PFTS, which was in 2005, it was $95, in 2007 it was $135, this year, if I decide to upgrade, it'll be $210, that's more then double the cost of the first party I attended, and that was only four years ago.
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... but I suspect we will begin spending our time and dollars investigating other F&W events around the country after this year. We're already planning to hit Vegas Uncorked next spring.
Do tell! That sounds like something Dh and I would love to do.
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Do tell! That sounds like something Dh and I would love to do.
We've never had the chance to attend but have heard and read really good things about past events. Here's the link to their website - the nice thing is that all the 2009 events, menus, and prices are still listed so you can get a really good idea of what they were offering for the prices.

My husband's 40th birthday falls over the 2010 event so I'm pretty sure we're going to celebrate it out there and hopefully will book a couple of these events to make it a memorable birthday.

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Thanks for the replies on the previous page. I agree, beverages does not necessarily mean wine and spirits. I would not be inclined to pay the extra for the wine view lounge. Plus, the cheeses were included last time. Here's hoping. Guess we will all find out more on the 11th.
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We've never had the chance to attend but have heard and read really good things about past events. Here's the link to their website - the nice thing is that all the 2009 events, menus, and prices are still listed so you can get a really good idea of what they were offering for the prices.

My husband's 40th birthday falls over the 2010 event so I'm pretty sure we're going to celebrate it out there and hopefully will book a couple of these events to make it a memorable birthday.

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Thanks very much for the info. I apologize for taking the OT.
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Old 08-01-2009, 12:37 PM   #807
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What is the take from the veterans on the Wine View Loughe? Good idea? Waste of money?
Because this is the first year for it and they have released so much information already, for us to consider it, which we aren't, lol. They would have to release more info, including that it was all top end reserve wines being poured, food including foie and cavier, etc. Access to whatever celebrity chefs are appearing during that party.

Also...if anyone of you have ever noticed sometimes a VIP group has disney guest services staff bringing them their little plates of food/wine and the guests just sit at table and wait for it. LOL, now that would be worth it then.

Either way, like I said before, after last years PFTS with so many people it was unbearable we aren't planning on ever doing another one.

We agree, the price has gotten so high and the quality of wines/food has gone down so much it just isn't worth it.

We too are looking at other food and wine events/options. Vegas uncorked has always caught our eye, as well as the couple in New York, California, New Mexico and Aspen. There are so many to choose from with such great events I think it is time to check out something new.
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The price increases are getting to be crazy. The first year I went to PFTS, which was in 2005, it was $95, in 2007 it was $135, this year, if I decide to upgrade, it'll be $210, that's more then double the cost of the first party I attended, and that was only four years ago.
I have to say I loved it when it only cost $95. Now we are looking at French Regional Lunches for that price. In all honesty, it is not surprising that things are costing more. Everything costs more. But I still think they are shooting themselves in the finances when they alienate loyal returning guests. Most people don't even know the F&W Festival exists. Those of us who go back year after year are the ones they need to court, or they need to advertise what is going on better. No one that I know (adults and families alike) knows anything about this event when I talk about it. And many of them are not WDW newbies.

On the 2008 thread we discussed that we thought Disney had hit the wall as far as acceptance of their price increases. We will all have to wait and see how all these changes play out. I know that I, for one, am not spending much money one special events this time around. I just cannot afford it!
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No idea, as it's never been done before and nobody knows yet exactly what you get for your extra $75. I won't be booking the party until I see what the deal is - I'm attending one of the last parties. If it sounds worth doing I will book the Wine View Room.
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No idea, as it's never been done before and nobody knows yet exactly what you get for your extra $75. I won't be booking the party until I see what the deal is - I'm attending one of the last parties. If it sounds worth doing I will book the Wine View Room.
It's crazy, we just got back from Disney and even asked a few of the chefs about this Wine View Lounge and they didn't even know much about it.

You would think they would give you more information and not be so secretive about it for an extra $75.00 fee.
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