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Old 05-10-2009, 09:10 AM   #1
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Question Can you use RCI timeshare to trade/exchange for DVC points?

Is there a way to this easily or do you have to find someone to partner with to do it? Is it like bartering or is it set up to do this with so many points of RCI vs. DVC? I could really help out someone (not myself) if this is possible.

Would someone be kind enough to explain this. I'm asking cause I saw a post that implied this works, but it didn't have any details. I asked there, but I haven't received a response yet and I'm anxious. It was on a different board; so, I may not get a answer. TIA
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Old 05-10-2009, 09:30 AM   #2
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The answer is a definite "maybe".

You don't need to find a partner to swap with---instead, RCI acts as a big "exchange bank". You deposit your owned time into the bank, and you get some credit that allows you to withdraw something that someone else put in the bank.

Where it gets tricky is how the 'credit' in the bank is managed---there are two different mechanisms, RCI Weeks and RCI Points, and the rules are very different. The short version is that to obtain a DVC week you need a "high-demand" deposit in Weeks, and you need a lot of points in Points.

So, to really answer your question, we'd need to know what resort you already own, and whether you are already an RCI member and, if so, Weeks or Points.
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And if the RCI resort you own is in the Orlando area, that area is generally blocked from trading into DVC.

You can also reserve a week at your home resort, and offer it for trade on our Rent/Trade board. If you wish to do that, be sure to read all the sticky threads at the top of the Rent/Trade board, as very specific posting rules apply.
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Old 05-10-2009, 09:46 AM   #4
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The person i work with owns 3 weeks at the Aruba Beach club. One week in May and 2 in November. I believe all 3 are "red" weeks in RCI. Do you think they would be able to exchange into DVC and how easily? TIA!!
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Wink Thanks for the fast replies.

I'll ask more questions from this person and then I may need to ask more questions here to help him. Thanks again.
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Old 05-10-2009, 10:25 AM   #6
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And if the RCI resort you own is in the Orlando area, that area is generally blocked from trading into DVC.
Chuck, there has been some discussion of this on another board, and it may be, although not 100% sure, that if you own any resort in the Orlando area, you may not trade into DVC, even if the particular resort you are trading is NOT in Orlando.
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Chuck, there has been some discussion of this on another board, and it may be, although not 100% sure, that if you own any resort in the Orlando area, you may not trade into DVC, even if the particular resort you are trading is NOT in Orlando.

That may be true, but I don't see how RCI could enforce that rule, except perhaps if the Orlando resort is owned/operated by RCI. I mean, if someone owned a Marriott in Orlando and a Hilton in Hawaii, they should be able to deposit their Hilton week into RCI to trade for DVC.

But if RCI owned/operated the resort(s), they would be able to set that type of a rule. And there are some RCI operated resorts near Disney.

But I really don't see how they could block non-RCI owned timeshares outside the Orlando area from pulling DVC, if it has the trading power. But RCI does seem to be kind of a flaky outfit.
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I agree, it does seem odd. But it does seem doable in most cases.

If RCI is like II, and members have an individual account with all their resorts listed, it would appear that a block could be put on the whole account if any of the resorts are in Orlando.

However, it does seem like in the case of HGVC (Hilton) where it's a corporate account (like DVC), it would be difficult to tell if their Hilton points came from Hawaii, Las Vegas, Orlando, or someplace else.

This from another thread by Dean:

I'm not sure that's true. That was what I was expecting but it appears that this is being interpreted as anyone that owns an "Orlando or Kissimmee resort" cannot exchange in. That's not only true with weeks but also with points owners. I know of someone that made RCI points reservations at a DVC resort and has been contacting saying they'll have to cancel citing this rule even though the points they used were likely not from their Orlando ownership.


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I've not yet read a Weeks owner being told they could not confirm an exchange with a non-Orlando week even though they also owned in Orlando---I'll ask over on TUG or TS4M to see if anyone has been in this situation. (Most of those folks don't actually own Orlando, though, so it may be hard to know for sure.)

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One week in May and 2 in November. I believe all 3 are "red" weeks in RCI.
Not all red weeks are the same "shade" of red. Aruba is "red" year round, but so is Orlando, and it's pretty clear that, say, New Years week is a lot more in-demand than mid-September in Orlando. In Aruba, unfortuantely, the peak demand period is winter and early spring, though I don't know how much it varies from month to month. Unfortunately, the only way to know for sure, is to deposit it and try---and even then, it can change from year to year, or even for two different weeks from the same time of the same year.
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Old 05-11-2009, 09:52 AM   #10
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Question A few more questions, already

What's the red season and what's the white season? Are there other seasons? Please explain.

Secondly, what season points do you need for DVC and how many RCI points for a week's stay? Are RCI points one for one with DVC points? I did find the the DVC point chart, but I don't know if this even up or not. If it's another cycle besides a week like Sunday thru Thursday or whatever then whatever makes sense with the point allocation; please explain. Could you give some estimates for the low end and the high end of DVC using RCI points. In this case, I think a studio or a 1 bedroom would be good enough. I don't think they would mind anyplace from Key West on up.

I'm seeing that this is beyond my knowledge base. I need more help. TIA

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Old 05-11-2009, 10:25 AM   #11
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RCI uses three "colors" to denote relative supply and demand. Red: highest supply/lowest demand; white: average; blue: lowest supply/highest demand. In principle, it is easier to obtain an exchange during "blue" or "white" time than during "red" time. Likewise, in principle, a "red" deposit is worth more than a "blue" or "white" deposit, and so on.

In practice, it's not nearly that simple, for a wide variety of reasons.

RCI points and DVC points are totally unrelated. You can find the point charts for each DVC resort in RCI's online resort directory---and you do not need to be a member to look them up. For example, here is OKW's RCI Points chart.

As far as I know, one can only book full-week exchanges at DVC, even using RCI Points.
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What's the red season and what's the white season? Are there other seasons? Please explain.

Secondly, what season points do you need for DVC and how many RCI points for a week's stay? Are RCI points one for one with DVC points? I did find the the DVC point chart, but I don't know if this even up or not. If it's another cycle besides a week like Sunday thru Thursday or whatever then whatever makes sense with the point allocation; please explain. Could you give some estimates for the low end and the high end of DVC using RCI points. In this case, I think a studio or a 1 bedroom would be good enough. I don't think they would mind anyplace from Key West on up.

I'm seeing that this is beyond my knowledge base. I need more help. TIA

I would like to know too!

We are looking at buying BVC resale for about 225 points.

When I look a the Points Value for RCI they are asking for 19,000 points in red season for a standard room for example. How do you concert that to DVC points? As in how do you know how much your DVC 225 will get you in RCI points?
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Old 05-11-2009, 05:09 PM   #13
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Question I'm getting there

I was able to find the points for about 6 resorts. The lowest points for a week go for 28,500 for a studio. They say red season for all of these. The week my friend needs is 48 or 49. I can't do availability because I'm not a memeber.

These same resorts have red season only marked with no points listed, too. The red season here goes for the entire 2009 year.

So, are RCI members with and without points for their timeshare?
So, why do they have these 2 ways?
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I would like to know too!

We are looking at buying BVC resale for about 225 points.

When I look a the Points Value for RCI they are asking for 19,000 points in red season for a standard room for example. How do you concert that to DVC points? As in how do you know how much your DVC 225 will get you in RCI points?

DVC Owners do not trade into RCI using RCI Points. DVC is a corporate membership, not an individual membership.
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And if the RCI resort you own is in the Orlando area, that area is generally blocked from trading into DVC.

You can also reserve a week at your home resort, and offer it for trade on our Rent/Trade board. If you wish to do that, be sure to read all the sticky threads at the top of the Rent/Trade board, as very specific posting rules apply.
It appears RCI and DVC are taking the stance that if one has a disqualifying resort listed in their ownership, they are blocking all trades. This includes those who own RCI points and even if the week or points are not from the disqualifying resort. It has been reported here by an RCI points member that they were called by RCI to say they were canceling their reservations based on this issue. I was under the impression there were no blocks for RCI points other than you could not trade to a RCI points resort for a week on the weeks side, this opens a whole can of worms for RCI points resorts that to my knowledge has not been opened before.

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The person i work with owns 3 weeks at the Aruba Beach club. One week in May and 2 in November. I believe all 3 are "red" weeks in RCI. Do you think they would be able to exchange into DVC and how easily? TIA!!
I would doubt that ABC has enough trade power to trade for DVC for May and Nov weeks other than possibly Thanksgiving if you're lucky. ABC is not that highly rated overall, actually it's a fairly low rated resort and those are pretty low weeks in general even if they are red, more likely medium pink.

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What's the red season and what's the white season? Are there other seasons? Please explain.

Secondly, what season points do you need for DVC and how many RCI points for a week's stay? Are RCI points one for one with DVC points? I did find the the DVC point chart, but I don't know if this even up or not. If it's another cycle besides a week like Sunday thru Thursday or whatever then whatever makes sense with the point allocation; please explain. Could you give some estimates for the low end and the high end of DVC using RCI points. In this case, I think a studio or a 1 bedroom would be good enough. I don't think they would mind anyplace from Key West on up.

I'm seeing that this is beyond my knowledge base. I need more help. TIA
You can easily find the RCI points requirements on RCI's website for any points resorts including DVC. There is no formal comparison of a RCI point to a DVC point, they are essentially unrelated other than in principle of what's higher or lower.

Are you trying to trade to DVC through RCI, is that the basis of these questions? If so, does that person have RCI points OR RCI weeks. Finally if you'll tell us the resorts and time of year of interest, we can give you a range of what to expect as well as some idea of the chances of success.
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