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Old 04-24-2009, 08:17 AM   #136
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Why not move the swap to a different message board. You have stated the stroller and accessories weren't paid for yet, why not charge $10 more per person per stay to keep the swap going?
I did move it to another board and was told a few days later to remove it as swaps weren't allowed. No more money can be charged. It has to be completly 100% free as of today.

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I'm sorry
I should have said, by the time the swap ends in June the stroller would be on its last leg.
It was used 3 times in April. It is scheduled to be used 5 times in May and 1 time in June.
Maybe you missed the other thread. Some people questioned the amount of money exchanging hands in a swap. Many swap leaders and swappers stated that swap strollers are only good for 8-10 uses.
Based on what other swappers posted, by the time your June person uses the stroller, it will be time to trash it. If people are still willing to use it, let them. I mean really, what are you going to do with a broke down stroller?
Oh, many people also posted (on the same thread) that swaps were basically a good will effort among DISers. The swaps were a way to build community. A way to help out all the mommies who need strollers weren't able to get one without swaps.
They also stated that the driving force behind the swaps was the love of Disney and the desire to help out fellow DISers, not money.
Has that changed?
I hope things work out for those of you who were hoping the use the stroller after June 4.
I sure hope the stroller isn't on it's last leg by june! I'm new to swaps and really hope that it's not true that swaps are only good for 8-10 uses. That would be just terrible. If I had known that I wouldn't have started the swap in the first place. The reason that I started the swap was to help out other DISers who would be at Disney before I would be. The only reason money ever changed hands was for maintence reasons. If the stroller got damaged or lost, it could be replaced. Now that isn't possible. I definately can't afford to replace it out of my pocket.
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Old 04-24-2009, 08:19 AM   #137
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I'm sorry

I should have said, by the time the swap ends in June the stroller would be on its last leg.

It was used 3 times in April. It is scheduled to be used 5 times in May and 1 time in June.

Maybe you missed the other thread. Some people questioned the amount of money exchanging hands in a swap. Many swap leaders and swappers stated that swap strollers are only good for 8-10 uses.
Based on what other swappers posted, by the time your June person uses the stroller, it will be time to trash it. If people are still willing to use it, let them. I mean really, what are you going to do with a broke down stroller?

Oh, many people also posted (on the same thread) that swaps were basically a good will effort among DISers. The swaps were a way to build community. A way to help out all the mommies who need strollers weren't able to get one without swaps.

They also stated that the driving force behind the swaps was the love of Disney and the desire to help out fellow DISers, not money.

Has that changed?

I hope things work out for those of you who were hoping the use the stroller after June 4.
First off, I think this is a personal decision and for you to continue to badger someone about their decision is really tacky.

I to am runnning a swap and am very concerned about the stroller. I have only just gotten ours paid for prior to the decision by the mods. I have also considered shutting down the swap. I believe most people start swaps for the reason of having a nice stroller to use when they are at disney and not to have to pay the outrageous amounts that disney is charging for their strollers. I know convience always costs, but at that price I am glad to have found an alternative. That is $250 more dollars I can spend elsewhere on my trip! I am sending my stroller months in advance and that is the case with this leader. That's pretty selfish isn't it?

With this decision, now the upkeep is totally an out of pocket expense for the organizer. Have you taken a look @ how much it costs to order some of those parts for these strollers? Let's just on average all parts are $20. Because when you keep using these the parts are gonna go bad at any time.

$20 x 26= $520
26x 5.95= $144.70 shipping to the leader (probably low, shipping is expensive)
26x 5.95=144.70 shipping to next swapper or resort.
$809.70 Grand total!

Now that is probably a low ball estimte because I am pretty sure that most of the stuff needed is more expensive than that. And if you have ever ordered replacement parts from a company direct before we know shipping is more than what I estimated.

And what about the swap leader that puts in sometimes a couple hours a day to check PM's and update the calendar and email swappers to find out what the condition of the stroller or time on the phone with the stroller company to order replacement parts. Don't you think their time is worth anything? Even if you say they spent 3 hours a week dealing with swap stuff and if you had to pay someone minimum wage to do that @ $7.50.
$7.50x3hrs=22.50 x52wks=$1170.00

Ok so here it is broken down...Let's say on an average the stroller is swapped to a different person each week. That is 52 swaps a year.
52x$20=$1040 in swap fees collected

$1040.00
-$809.70replacement parts & shipping
$230.30 left unused from swap

And chances are that 1 stroller is not going to last 1 year!!! So there you have it there is $230.30 left and that is barely if cover the cost of a new stroller...Then you have the cost of shipping it down to the next swapper..

So there the money is gone...and the swap leader didn't even get any compensation. I ask you to work @ your job for 3 hours a week free for a year, would you do that? And I'm sure you are paid more than minimum wage.

Now take into consideration that it is going to cost the swap leader out of pocket to ship the stroller down to the next swapper. So now the leader is paying out of there pocket. Are you ok with that?

Point being, stop hasseling her! She made a decision and please respect that. And I'm sure everything I posted above will have no bearing on what you think about the swaps, because you already have it in your head that this was just for profit.

And if this was a business, it wouldn't be for very long, how many sucessful businesses do you know that continue to operate in the RED!

So go ahead start a swap, and pay out of your pocket..SIGN ME UP! .My dates are September 27-October 3rd and I'm interested in using the stroller FREE of charge, and I expect that it be in supreme working order and safe for my kids when I get there, because I am on vacation and I don't want to have to worry that the front wheel is going to fall off at any minute!!!!!

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Oh this totally sucks that the rules changed.

I used the stroller and it was wonderful!! the swivel wheel gave me some trouble, but that was because I was not sure how to adjust it until the last day of my swap.


The stoller will NOT be on it's last leg by june. It was pretty sturdy and my kids really enjoyed it- much better than the disney ones.

phins_jazy- I respect your decision, but rest assured I took care of the stroller with the best of care!

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