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Old 03-31-2009, 02:47 PM   #31
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Yes, I understand Disney charges people for each additional adult in the room. But I am sure that there are people that get by this also by not listing them on the reservation. I was speaking about anyone under the "adult" class. I totally could book a room at Disney and not list the amount of people in the room. My point was for a family of 5, 2 adults and 3 kids under 18, when I book room only I am just paying for the room. I don't have to pay for the kids or the 2nd adult. That is why its called "Room only"

Yes I am aware that the deluxes sleep 5, as do the cabins and the villas and the family suites, etc. As I have stayed at many of them. The whole maybe they should build a resort for families of 5 was a joke but apparently went over some peoples heads.
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Room only, means just that you are booking the room and not a package, room only has different cancellation and deposit policies. You still have to list the people staying in the room, and everyone is issued resort ID's, if there are more than 2 adults then extra still has to be paid.
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Old 03-31-2009, 03:30 PM   #33
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whew,hot topic.I thank you all for your imput.Still not sure if she can come a few days or how I will do it.I thought it would be nice to stay in the parks late-like on 4th of july- and have my mom take 4 year old back to hotel and go to bed, but it seems to be a hot debate so I will think on it.
Have you given any thought to trying to switch to POR? That way you would all be legal, and not have any worries!
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Old 03-31-2009, 04:38 PM   #34
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The few incremental $$ to me is not worth sneaking someone in and out all the time. The D resorts have many amenities that your mom would probably like to take advantage of as she's caring for your little one, but she'll most likely be limited to the room as a non-registered guest (unless she doesn't care about getting caught).

If you had to get babysitting services instead, it would be alot more money than adding your mom onto your reservation. I say do the right thing.
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Yes, I understand Disney charges people for each additional adult in the room.

Sorry, I had no way of knowing that you understood about WDW charging for extra adults in the room, because that is not what you said. You stated, " If I book a room only and have 4 people in it or 1 person in it I still pay only the room only price. "
What you stated just is not true, when there are more than 2 adults in the room, you are charged an additional fee for each extra adult.

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But I am sure that there are people that get by this also by not listing them on the reservation. I was speaking about anyone under the "adult" class. I totally could book a room at Disney and not list the amount of people in the room.
Well sure, you can sneak people in the room, you can sneak food out of buffets, you can sneak up to the front of the lines, but you were talking about Disney's policies, not what you could get away with.

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My point was for a family of 5, 2 adults and 3 kids under 18, when I book room only I am just paying for the room. I don't have to pay for the kids or the 2nd adult. That is why its called "Room only"

Again , this is not correct. When you book Room Only, you are paying for the room plus additional fees for each additional adult in the room. In your case, with the 3 children , you would not be paying extra, but your scenario doens't work for everyone.

And Room ONly means that it is not a package. You are only renting the room, it doesn't come with park tickets or dining or tours or anything else.
It has specific payment and cancellation policies.

Packages are a room that comes with park tickets or dining or whatever the promotion is. THey also have specific policies for payment and cancellation
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Old 03-31-2009, 06:56 PM   #36
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I am going to Disney in last week of May with my 2 kids and 2 girlfriends. I discovered the job of 5 to a room! I originally booked POR for $144 a night,waterview was all they had left. Then we considered the cabins at Fort Wilderness, which was $209 a night. Final decision was 2 room at All Star Movies, preferred was all that left, total of $166 a night. At least we get two bathrooms this way! We were charged an extra $15 a night at POR for the 3rd adult too. My concern was EMH and using transportation and stuff if we weren't all registered.
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Old 03-31-2009, 07:26 PM   #37
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I'm in a similar situation. We have 3 adults, 1 child, and 2 infants in our party. We want to stay at WL, but they won't let us. Of course, we could stay at Riverside.

I don't buy the fire code explanation. It doesn't make any sense. Take the WL Villas for example. A 1 bedroom villa is 720 sq ft, yet you can only have 4 people in the room. Yet 5 can fit into a room that's only 314 sq ft.

Disney's not stupid. They know that people love certain resorts. You love the WL, and have more people - You're going to get 2 rooms.
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Old 04-01-2009, 12:54 AM   #38
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The whole maybe they should build a resort for families of 5 was a joke but apparently went over some peoples heads.
It didn't go over anyone's head. It wasn't humorous. Disney does, as you (and most of us) already know, hve multiple options for parties larger-than-four wanting to be in one unit.

Respectfully, anyone who chooses to own and operate their own hotel (motel, B&B, resort, motor inn, campground, etc.) can make, and allow to be broken, whatever occupancy and other rules they choose in accordance with local and state zoning laws. These are Disney's (properties and rules).

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I don't buy the fire code explanation. It doesn't make any sense.
Okay, then. Forget fire codes. Again, the maximum occupancy is because the hotel owner said so. It's got nothing to do with the popularity of one or more particular resorts.
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Disney won't throw you out - unless a neighbor (at your hotel) complaints.

so be nice to everyone if you go this route.
I would not do it.

because Disney if other guests complaint will come and ask you to leave.

Not worth it to me.

with your mother qualifing for Florida resident rates - those are pretty nice.
Pat, I'm afraid Disney does throw people out. I was at POP a few years ago, when my neighbors got thrown out one morning. A manager type and another CM came to their door and there was a discussion that got very loud. The man in the room was yelling that with the amount of money they spent on this vacation that they should be allowed to have as many people as they wanted in the room and since it was their room, it was none of Disney's business. The CM's voices were quieter, but you could still hear something about Disney's policies and that they could either pay for another room or leave. My door was shut and no way were we going out that door until the confrontation was over. However, my GD woke up about that time and then round up getting sick and so we were stuck in the room longer than planned. About an hour or so later we heard the door slam and peeked out the window. The family of five were leaving with all their luggage. I don't know if a guest or housekeeping or who reported them. I know we didn't even know there were five in that room. We did know they were loud though, so maybe someone reported them for that and when the CMs investigated it, they found five in the room. I don't know, but I do know that family was kicked out that morning for having too many people in the room.

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I'm in a similar situation. We have 3 adults, 1 child, and 2 infants in our party. We want to stay at WL, but they won't let us. Of course, we could stay at Riverside.

I don't buy the fire code explanation. It doesn't make any sense. Take the WL Villas for example. A 1 bedroom villa is 720 sq ft, yet you can only have 4 people in the room. Yet 5 can fit into a room that's only 314 sq ft.

Disney's not stupid. They know that people love certain resorts. You love the WL, and have more people - You're going to get 2 rooms.
#1 Disney will let you stay at the Wilderness Lodge. You just need to plan on getting 2 rooms in order for your family to fit.

#2 The fire code is not just based on room size. Other things such as stairs vs elevators come in to play.

#3 Not everyone loves the deluxe resorts more than the values. I have had better vacations staying at the All Stars than staying at the Beach Club.
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#1 Disney will let you stay at the Wilderness Lodge. You just need to plan on getting 2 rooms in order for your family to fit.

#2 The fire code is not just based on room size. Other things such as stairs vs elevators come in to play.

#3 Not everyone loves the deluxe resorts more than the values. I have had better vacations staying at the All Stars than staying at the Beach Club.
1.Yup. We thought about that. Too much money.

2.I know other things come into play, but still, look at comparisons. What's the difference between Wilderness Lodge and Contemporary? The Tower has just as many rooms on just as many floors. Same thing with Yacht Club.

3.I agree. In fact, I've always preferred my stays at the All Stars more than the Polynesian or Old Key West. But we've had great experiences at the Wilderness Lodge. It's just a shame it would cost us an arm and a leg to all stay there.
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Old 04-01-2009, 08:13 AM   #42
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I don't get the picking on Disney from people here about the not having hotels that sleep 5. Disney has MORE hotels that allow 5 in a room than any other vacation spot I've been to...and we like to travel.

You have the YC/BC, GF, POLY, CR, BWI-that's A LOT of hotels to choose from. Than you have the POR trundle rooms and the family suites as well.

Try going to Aruba, or Myrtle Beach SC, or Las Vegas, or just about anywhere with 5 and it's not easy. We have had to get 2 hotel rooms at places and have had to pay extra $$ for a cot at others. At Disney we know we never have a problem. One room at the YC this May is going to be perfect for us.
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I don't get the picking on Disney from people here about the not having hotels that sleep 5. Disney has MORE hotels that allow 5 in a room than any other vacation spot I've been to...and we like to travel.

You have the YC/BC, GF, POLY, CR, BWI-that's A LOT of hotels to choose from. Than you have the POR trundle rooms and the family suites as well.
Yeah, I know. I'm one who does it, but I agree - They give you options.

What I WISH they would do, is make it more feasable to stay in the resort you want to stay in. Animal Kingdom Lodge and Wilderness Lodge are 2 very popular resorts, but can't accomidate 6 people in a standard room. What would be great is if Disney had a special deal when booking 2 rooms.
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Old 04-01-2009, 08:39 AM   #44
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I've seen people do a variation of what you're suggesting but they had two rooms. One room for the GP's and another for the Mom, Dad, and 5 kids. The Mom Dad, and 5 kids stayed in one room (at POP ) and the GP's stayed in another. The kids slept in sleeping bags. The Dad explained to me that they had booked two rooms and split the kids up on the reservation between rooms.

I do know that for hotels and resorts, when you build the resort you have to apply to the zoning board and that on that request, along with the blueprints, etc you have to state occupancy for the resort. Sort of like building a home, and then specifying whether it's to be a single family or multi family unit. If a resort is zoned to have 5, then 5 is what it can have. DVC resorts are the same thing. Certain types of rooms are zoned for 4, 5, or even 8. The newer DVC's have a 1 bedroom where you can sleep 5 to a room.

To the OP, you could try it, but it might not work out well for you. EMH's are tied to your room key, and it might be tough to get tickets for your Mom, etc if she's just tagging along in the room. Why not either skip Mom as nanny and just limit yourselves to going back to the resort when the 4 year old gets pooped. The 17 year old would be fine on their own. Good luck and happy planning!
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I don't get the picking on Disney from people here about the not having hotels that sleep 5. Disney has MORE hotels that allow 5 in a room than any other vacation spot I've been to...and we like to travel.

You have the YC/BC, GF, POLY, CR, BWI-that's A LOT of hotels to choose from. Than you have the POR trundle rooms and the family suites as well.

Try going to Aruba, or Myrtle Beach SC, or Las Vegas, or just about anywhere with 5 and it's not easy. We have had to get 2 hotel rooms at places and have had to pay extra $$ for a cot at others. At Disney we know we never have a problem. One room at the YC this May is going to be perfect for us.
right, they do have quite a few resorts to choose from that fit 5 to a room. Not many of them if you're on a budget though. If you can't afford to stay at a deluxe, your options are more limited.
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