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Old 03-30-2009, 07:04 PM   #16
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cepmom, I never even thought of that, thanks for reminding me. You are corrct, why can't they put a trundle in the other resorts. I have read posts saying that when they run out of rooms at Riverside they put a cot in the Mansion section for parties of 5. So if it is really a "fire code" issue then Disney wouldn't be able to put cots in the Mansions.

The only way you pay for ech person in a room is if you are buying a package. If I book a room only and have 4 people in it or 1 person in it I still pay only the room only price. So does that mean I only have a set amount of electricity and water for a room only or do I get the same amount as the family that makes a package purchase?

Disney knows that people squeeze more than the "legal" number of people in the rooms. I have seen it before and have not seen anthing done about it. They are making money off of it regardless.
Actually, Disney can put an occasional cot in different rooms. As long as they don't go crazy and have too many they will be within what ever head count each particular building is allowed. But if they had them in each and every room, they would have too many people. It is not how many people are in each room, but how many people total each building can hold.

And as far as paying for electricity and water, if you have a room that holds 4 people, 4 people are expected to be using those utilities. Not 5. And Disney expects you to have only 4 people taking up space at the food courts. Not 5. One extra person at a resort wouldn't have much of an impact. but if every single room had an additional person in it, there would be a huge impact! Think about how many complaints we have seen about how full the busses are. Add a few hundred more to that, people that Disney hasn't accounted for, and see how the busses are. Or add a few hundred more people with you in line at the food court, people Disney doesn't think will be there, and see how fast your service is.

What is so stinkin hard about just doing what you are supposed to do and follow the rules. Most of us post here because we love Disney, not because we are looking to see what we can get without having to pay for it.

Disney says 4 to a room at CBR. You either need another room, or you need to switch resorts.
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I think the issue with Disney is less about the "fire code" and more about making sure everyone is paying to be there
I think the issue with EVERY hotel in making sure everyone staying in it is registered and paying to stay there. No way is it limited to Disney. Heck, my other favorite vacation destination is Las Vegas - and those hotels generally charge for every guest beyond the first two - even a four-year-old.
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Old 03-30-2009, 07:13 PM   #18
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The fire code depends on things other than room size. Some of it has to do with how big the doorways are, if there are elevators in the building or not, how many stories the buildings have. Which is why at POR they allow 5 in the Bayou rooms. Those buildings are only 2 stories high, and don't have elevators. The Mansion sections are 3 stories high and have elevators. So no trundle beds in those rooms.

And to the previous poster, how would you know if the people at the resorts were legal or not? They only ask for IDs at some of the pools, and they don't ask for IDs by the busses.

Oh I get that there are other determining factors on fire codes, but as far as I know CBR and POR AB buildings are both 2 floors, no elevators. I guess I don't understand why POR can have a trundle and not CBR It would make it so much nicer for familes of more than 4 to have a wider choice of resorts to stay at on a budget.
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It would make it so much nicer for familes of more than 4 to have a wider choice of resorts to stay at on a budget.
I understand where you are coming from. I travel a lot with my sis and her family, so we end up as a group of 6. We would love to save some money and all stay in one room. We actually did POR as a legal 6 when her youngest was still a baby. But we realize that when we travel together (and not just to Disney) that we will need either a suite/villa of some kind, or 2 rooms. Disney is not all alone in having most resorts only hold 4 people. And they are probably one of the best at actually haing different options for larger families.

But just because I would like to save money and all stay in 1 room, that doesn't mean I am going to do it. Disney's resorts, their rules that I follow. If I don't like it, I can always choose to vacation elsewhere.
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I understand where you are coming from. I travel a lot with my sis and her family, so we end up as a group of 6. We would love to save some money and all stay in one room. We actually did POR as a legal 6 when her youngest was still a baby. But we realize that when we travel together (and not just to Disney) that we will need either a suite/villa of some kind, or 2 rooms. Disney is not all alone in having most resorts only hold 4 people. And they are probably one of the best at actually haing different options for larger families.

But just because I would like to save money and all stay in 1 room, that doesn't mean I am going to do it. Disney's resorts, their rules that I follow. If I don't like it, I can always choose to vacation elsewhere.
we pretty much only travel to Disney, so I can't attest to other resorts but I'll take your word on it

As much as I love to save money on a vacation, I do always abide by Disney's occupancy rules also. This goes for Disney Cruise as well, where we always have to get two rooms. Although, I will admit I do get annoyed when pricing out our trips for the five of us.
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I understand where you are coming from. I travel a lot with my sis and her family, so we end up as a group of 6. We would love to save some money and all stay in one room. We actually did POR as a legal 6 when her youngest was still a baby. But we realize that when we travel together (and not just to Disney) that we will need either a suite/villa of some kind, or 2 rooms. Disney is not all alone in having most resorts only hold 4 people. And they are probably one of the best at actually haing different options for larger families.

But just because I would like to save money and all stay in 1 room, that doesn't mean I am going to do it. Disney's resorts, their rules that I follow. If I don't like it, I can always choose to vacation elsewhere.

Agreed. We are a family of 6 and the suite prices are high but I love Disney so I am willing to pay those prices to go.
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I vote they build a new hotel only for families of 5!!!!
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I vote they build a new hotel only for families of 5!!!!
but then we would have a whole bunch of threads about 'sneaking ing' a 6th guest :P
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cepmom, I never even thought of that, thanks for reminding me. You are corrct, why can't they put a trundle in the other resorts. I have read posts saying that when they run out of rooms at Riverside they put a cot in the Mansion section for parties of 5. So if it is really a "fire code" issue then Disney wouldn't be able to put cots in the Mansions.

The only way you pay for ech person in a room is if you are buying a package. If I book a room only and have 4 people in it or 1 person in it I still pay only the room only price. So does that mean I only have a set amount of electricity and water for a room only or do I get the same amount as the family that makes a package purchase?

Disney knows that people squeeze more than the "legal" number of people in the rooms. I have seen it before and have not seen anthing done about it. They are making money off of it regardless.
Even in room only reservations you have to register each guest in the room and you are charged for additional adults, the extra charge is not exclusive to package reservations.

Also at any other hotel I've made a reservation, I have to state how many adults and how many children will be in the room and some I have been charged for having more than 2 adults in a room. If you try to make a reservation at a Hampton Inn online, and you try to put 2 adults and 3 kids in a king room I'm not sure you would have better luck. Maybe you could maybe you couldn't.

We used to have slumber parties in hotels and we were limited on how many girls could be registered in a room.

So my point is that other hotels do have occupancy limits and some do charge for extra adults.
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I vote they build a new hotel only for families of 5!!!!
They have whole hotels that sleep families of five - they are called the Poly, the Contemporary, the BWI, the GF and the YC/BC.

And its not a whole hotel, but Disney did recently make additional rooms available at a value price - they are called the family suites at the Allstars
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Life is always simpler when you do the right thing.

Port Orleans Riverside will sleep 5 for the same price, plus the additional fee for the extra adult. Or, upgrade to a deluxe that will allow 5 in a room.
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Disney won't throw you out - unless a neighbor (at your hotel) complaints.

so be nice to everyone if you go this route.

POR - AB section - trundle bed
All star music suites
all the deluxes (except rooms at AKL and WL)
1-bedroom DVC - AKV and BLT - sleep 5

I would not do it.

because Disney if other guests complaint will come and ask you to leave.

Not worth it to me.

with your mother qualifing for Florida resident rates - those are pretty nice.
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whew,hot topic.I thank you all for your imput.Still not sure if she can come a few days or how I will do it.I thought it would be nice to stay in the parks late-like on 4th of july- and have my mom take 4 year old back to hotel and go to bed, but it seems to be a hot debate so I will think on it.
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If I book a room only and have 4 people in it or 1 person in it I still pay only the room only price.
Not true.
DIsney charges a fee for each adult in the room in excess of 2 people.
So, at the moderates, if you have 3 adults in a room, you will be charged an extra $15 for the 3rd person, and then another $15 a night for the 4th person.

I think it's $10 night at the values, and $ 25 at the deluxes.
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