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Old 03-11-2009, 05:55 PM   #91
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Old 03-11-2009, 06:59 PM   #92
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At first I was not fond of this idea, but I've been thinking about this a lot lately. What is the one thing that makes a great online Disney community? It's members! It doesn't matter how flashy the website/forums are, or whether or not the webmasters/podcast crew gives out freebies. It's the members that make up a great community. I have found that the online Disney community is the friendliest, most inviting, generous community out there.

I think we should all ban together and make this new Disney community a part of the family. Sure it has some bugs and a "few fees", but that can all change. How many online communities have adapted and changed to suit the needs of the members? I'm sure a lot. I think Disney's intentions were honestly good, but like the game of telephone, got a little twisted after making it's way through the halls of a very large corporation.

So I say... let's show Disney what a true community is. Be proactive, become a member, give Disney feedback and constructive critism as a member. What does it say about us as a community, if we don't embrace and help out a newcomer?

Although I can't really afford it, I'm going to try to work some extra hours (it might take me a couple of weeks), join this new community, welcome them with open arms, and help make it as good as the many great communities we all belong to (like this one).
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Old 03-13-2009, 07:18 PM   #93
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Old 03-13-2009, 10:37 PM   #94
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Hey maybe we should look at it like this. You get 4 magazines for $75. If they were $25 each, then you're getting 1 free... Yeah, there's the discount - buy 3 magazines at $25 each and you get 1 free. Oh, wait, they're selling the magazines for $16 at Barnes and Noble. Nevermind...
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Old 03-14-2009, 12:44 AM   #95
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So did anybody post comments on their site? I left them a scathing message. I encourage people to tell them what you think. Here's a link if ya need it:

http://d23.disney.go.com/contactus.html
Thanks. I submitted the following message for Disney:

So, I didn't join D23. I must admit, the idea of being in an official "Mickey Mouse Club" of some sort does hold some appeal, but D23 does not sit right with me. I'm not angry at Disney. I didn't have any expectations of D23, so I'm not particulary disappointed. I'm just not joining. And here are some of the reasons why:

1. D23: Don't like the name and positioning of the fan community. It tries to be too mysterious and exclusive. Just have a simple and straightforward fan club instead of trying to over hype this and pretend it's somehow exclusive for "members only." I really like the open, inclusive feeling of the Disney fan communities like the DIS and it would be great if a Disney fan club was like that as well. Heck, Mickey doesn't turn away anyone who loves him and that's his universal appeal. Everyone is welcome at Disneyland and WDW. Shouldn't everyone be welcome in the fan community even if they don't have $75 or don't join in the first 30 days?

2. Invitation to join came from disney.shopping.com: Hello! If this is a real fan community and not just a merchandising scheme, then why is the email invite coming from disney shopping? Disney lost all credibility off the bat with me there. If an Imagineer or even Mickey invited me, I'd have read the email right away. As it is, I'm just making it through the D23 promotional email and website now -- only because the discussion on the DIS peaked my curiousity on the topic.

3. Fee to join: if you're going to make me pay for this, then I need to see value in joining. An overpriced magazine with content that I'll probably be able to find in some version or another for free on the Internet doesn't do it for me. Either does a certificate or exclusive rights to buy merchandise. To be honest, events, rewards and discounts are pretty much the only things that would draw me in...and good events that make it worth my $75. Events need to be specified upfront in order for me to be willing to part with my money. It would also be nice if some events were close to home (like maybe Pixar Studios in the Bay Area would be nice ) I also like discounts, and I need to understand upfront what they are, to see if they are worth my $75.

4. Access: I'd like to feel like joining a Disney fan community gives me access to information, imagineers and the "magic." And this doesn't have to be exclusive or "members only" access. I'd like a fan club to give me the opportunity to learn more about the history of Disney and perhaps even gain a teeny tiny voice in shaping its future. If I joined D23 I'm concerned that I might be self segregated myself into the "suckers" segment of Disney customers. I might be taking myself off any customer list Disney might have to offer hotel discount codes and putting myself on the customer list to get more adds for $800 pens from Disney shopping.com. Let's just say I do not see myself wearing a D23 logo anytime soon. And this is coming from someone who willingly wears DVC promotional materials to advertise for Disney for free. I would be uncomfortable wearing anything D23 at this point.

I'm not protesting and I'm not holding out from joining out of principle. I just don't feel drawn to join. I will probably read info available for free on the D23 web site and I will hurry to join if I find info that demonstrate there are events, discount or rewards that make it worth the money. And if Disney would look at changing the name and exclusive positioning of the fan community, well that would be most appreciated.
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Old 03-14-2009, 08:03 AM   #96
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I'm not planning on joining D23. I feel that there are already plenty of groups (albeit not 'official') that meet many of the Disney fan needs. For example:

Like Disney history/trivia? - - - Buy Lou Mongellos trivia books!
Want to join a 'fan club'? - - - Join the National Fantasy Fan Club (NFFC)!
Want a Disney Magazine? - - - Subscribe to Celebrations or Attractions magazine!
Like the Disney Railroad? - - - Join the Carolwood Pacific group!
Rich Disney fan? - - - Join Club 33!
Want to be part of an online group? - - - Join the DIS, DISfriends, Facebook, Laughing Place, Netcot, etc...
Want to go to a Disney 'convention'? - - - Go to Magic Meets, WestFest, Mouse Fest (if it returns)!

I would be more interested in D23 if they had something like tiered membership. Like say $25.00 to join, $50.00 to join and get a 'gift', $75.00 to join and get the 'gift' and the magazine.


It would be cool if like Club 33 (but obviously on a different level), D23 had a 'clubhouse' in a park (kind of like a VIP lounge) where fans could meet.
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Thanks. I submitted the following message for Disney:

So, I didn't join D23. I must admit, the idea of being in an official "Mickey Mouse Club" of some sort does hold some appeal, but D23 does not sit right with me. I'm not angry at Disney. I didn't have any expectations of D23, so I'm not particulary disappointed. I'm just not joining. And here are some of the reasons why:

1. D23: Don't like the name and positioning of the fan community. It tries to be too mysterious and exclusive. Just have a simple and straightforward fan club instead of trying to over hype this and pretend it's somehow exclusive for "members only." I really like the open, inclusive feeling of the Disney fan communities like the DIS and it would be great if a Disney fan club was like that as well. Heck, Mickey doesn't turn away anyone who loves him and that's his universal appeal. Everyone is welcome at Disneyland and WDW. Shouldn't everyone be welcome in the fan community even if they don't have $75 or don't join in the first 30 days?

2. Invitation to join came from disney.shopping.com: Hello! If this is a real fan community and not just a merchandising scheme, then why is the email invite coming from disney shopping? Disney lost all credibility off the bat with me there. If an Imagineer or even Mickey invited me, I'd have read the email right away. As it is, I'm just making it through the D23 promotional email and website now -- only because the discussion on the DIS peaked my curiousity on the topic.

3. Fee to join: if you're going to make me pay for this, then I need to see value in joining. An overpriced magazine with content that I'll probably be able to find in some version or another for free on the Internet doesn't do it for me. Either does a certificate or exclusive rights to buy merchandise. To be honest, events, rewards and discounts are pretty much the only things that would draw me in...and good events that make it worth my $75. Events need to be specified upfront in order for me to be willing to part with my money. It would also be nice if some events were close to home (like maybe Pixar Studios in the Bay Area would be nice ) I also like discounts, and I need to understand upfront what they are, to see if they are worth my $75.

4. Access: I'd like to feel like joining a Disney fan community gives me access to information, imagineers and the "magic." And this doesn't have to be exclusive or "members only" access. I'd like a fan club to give me the opportunity to learn more about the history of Disney and perhaps even gain a teeny tiny voice in shaping its future. If I joined D23 I'm concerned that I might be self segregated myself into the "suckers" segment of Disney customers. I might be taking myself off any customer list Disney might have to offer hotel discount codes and putting myself on the customer list to get more adds for $800 pens from Disney shopping.com. Let's just say I do not see myself wearing a D23 logo anytime soon. And this is coming from someone who willingly wears DVC promotional materials to advertise for Disney for free. I would be uncomfortable wearing anything D23 at this point.

I'm not protesting and I'm not holding out from joining out of principle. I just don't feel drawn to join. I will probably read info available for free on the D23 web site and I will hurry to join if I find info that demonstrate there are events, discount or rewards that make it worth the money. And if Disney would look at changing the name and exclusive positioning of the fan community, well that would be most appreciated.
Great email!
All you need to do is to tell them to fix the dang website too! I have NEVER had any searches on that thing work (even for D23!)
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Old 03-15-2009, 01:08 PM   #98
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I think many Disney fans are jumping the gun and judging D23 a bit too quickly. This week on Mouse Guest Weekly we talked to those behind D23, Steven Clark, Becky Cline and Dave Smith, to get the inside scoop and address some concerns Disney fans seem to have.

Check it out- Show #190:
http://www.mouseguest.com/podcast/index.php
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Old 03-15-2009, 04:43 PM   #99
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Angry marketing manages to mess things up again

When I first heard about RU23 I kept getting it mixed up the controversial day after pill RU 487. I thought Disney is really branching out. Actually now that I know what it is I am not surprised. I can picture some earnest pro fan Disney employees first proposing an official community on line. The MBA's in marketing then thought how we make money on this. Not the long term kind that will ensure our future and insure our future if we do something free for the fan base now but the short term kind that will guarantee a short term profit and increase our bonuses. Volia! RU23 is created.

At least they could give a perk like a once a year tour of the Disney archives or a free behind the scenes special tour. The brain trust at Disney has managed to pluck loss from the jaws of gain once again.
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Old 04-03-2009, 11:48 AM   #100
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Count me in as another that sees no value in this whatsoever. There are more, better, and more down-to-earth Disney fans on HERE, and we get to share the love for free, everyday! Heck, we're already better, more personable, and much more fun than D23, and we don't need expensive pens to prove it! (Yes, DIS, I love yoooooo!)

The more I look at it, the more I think that it's the Disney heads that are drinking the kool-aid. Perhaps instead they should smell what they're shoveling?....
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IMHO Disney have not addressed the main concerns that peeps have stated.
As John suggested some time back the best way to let Disney know what you think is to write and tell them
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Old 05-28-2009, 03:46 PM   #102
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Just wanted to provide an update on the D23 feedback I sent to Disney by email.

I got the following response email today (5/28) - more than 2 months after I sent original email.

Dear Disney Guest,

Thank you for your recent email.

We appreciate the fact that you took the time to convey your thoughts to
us. The Walt Disney Company prides itself in providing quality
entertainment and merchandise for all and we will continue to make every
effort towards achieving that goal.

We look forward to hearing from you in the future.

Sincerely,
(Individual's First Name)

The DisneyStore.com Team


Ironically, I have since joined D23. All it took was one local event (opening of Walt Disney museum at the SF Presidio) to get me to sign up. Let's see if it's worth it...
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Old 05-28-2009, 03:55 PM   #103
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It's nice that they (finally) wrote back, but did they address anything you mentioned in your email to them? It seems like a pretty generic response.
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Old 05-29-2009, 10:32 AM   #104
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I hope they have more events like last night at the El Capitian!! It was the first D23 event and it was awesome. Very impressed. I think it just needs more time to be developed.
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