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Old 12-04-2008, 12:23 PM   #76
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Why is everyone getting so upset. First off, we have 150 pts at VWL. IF they want to have an elite club, I say go for it. They will not get an extra month to book reservations. Think of what hotels offer for gold members like Marriott. They get a dedicated phone number for their reservations. Maybe a free newspaper delivered daily. Perhaps a small fruit basket. Whatever. Like a couple others have said, their are membership rewards for everything. You get special coupons at grocery or pet stores, can stand in a special line or no line for rental cars, etc... Those of us with fewer points will not lose anything, we just won't enjoy what little perk they give those with more points. And I am OK with that. If you want fair and equal, go to Cuba or some other socialist country. Otherwise, quit your
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:26 PM   #77
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I think I would be resentful if they took away perks from those of us at lower levels, but not if they simply gave new perks. I might be a little envious, but it wouldn't sour my experience with DVC. (We're not likely to ever have enough DVC points to be in any high point owner club; we like to vacation other places too much.)

I wouldn't think it a terrible thing to have one set of perks for those with under 100 points, another set for owners with 100 - 500, and a third set for owners with more than 500 points (or more than 1000, or whatever they set.) That said, I don't really want to see something that specifically discriminates against resale buyers, although I guess I can see somehow penalizing (or at least not rewarding) people who own fewer points than the minimum buy in from Disney.
I DEFINITELY agree with you.

It would not costs us (the ones with not a lot points) nothing if they give extra perks to whom owns more points than us, we see it everywhere, why not here. But they must be aware of those owning points for rent, so I also agree, the club may be formed with people that are really using points for themselves.

And your idea or three kinds of perks is excellent as I am in the middle line with a no so big, no so small contract..............
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Old 12-04-2008, 01:16 PM   #78
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If they DO giver extra perks for some, I could live with the kind that are given to "Founding Members" at a new DVC...............a Tapestry, maybe a Name- brick (for whatever path they need to build anyway ), possibly a Picture-thingy on "Stonehenge" (or whatever they call those monoliths at Epcot).............

IMHO, any of those types of "extras" wouldn't make the "non-elite" (my words) feel like second-class members.
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Old 12-04-2008, 01:28 PM   #79
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This concerns me. One of the things I really like about DVC is that they treat all members equally. It doesn't matter if you bought resale, it doesn't matter that you only own 25 points, every member gets the same perks, and the use of there membership. In many other timeshare points programs they have different levels of membership. If you only buy a few points, or buy resale, you become second class citizens, not entitled to the same benefits as the VIP owners.
Exactly....I dont' like it
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Old 12-04-2008, 02:20 PM   #80
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So basically this is like the old "class" system on ocean liners. I guess I'm in steerage. I really dislike this idea completely. You should either give perks to everyone or no one gets them IMO. Sometimes I really wonder how DVC comes up with these things. Do they have this room full of 20 somethings sitting around just making random decisions? I still don't understand why they did the redesign on Vacation Magic.
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Old 12-04-2008, 02:30 PM   #81
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It could be that DVC is floating a trial balloon to see how members react to the idea and what they say. They are probably reviewing what we are discussing here about it.
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Old 12-04-2008, 02:42 PM   #82
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I can not believe that anyone is surprised by this. DVC is a business and they need to do what other businesses do to survive and grow.

Promoting and rewarding high point owners makes sense and it is done everywhere. Frequent flyer's, hotel clubs, car rentals, even hair cuts and car washes all offer specials for customers in the clubs.

High points owners bring more money to Disney at less cost. What's cheaper, processing 10 dues payments for 100 point owners, or processing 1 dues payment for a 1000 point owner?

We may not like the idea but I think that VIP recognition is going to happen within the DVC. It is already in place within the rest of Disney.
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Old 12-04-2008, 02:49 PM   #83
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What's cheaper, processing 10 dues payments for 100 point owners, or processing 1 dues payment for a 1000 point owner?
The real savings is in marketing costs---the larger point owner only had to be "sold" on DVC once.

Industry-wide, the costs of marketing can be 50% of the total price of a developer timeshare purchase. The actual construction of the resort is typically around 25%.
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Old 12-04-2008, 02:51 PM   #84
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The survey was about the name? WTH? Why waste people's time? Why don't they spend their funds (actually our funds) accomplishing something that all members can benefit from.
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Old 12-04-2008, 02:55 PM   #85
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Sounds like DVC is going to chuck the whole reason why some of us bought into DVC. The Welcome Homes, the feeling of being " Home", everyone is your neighbors, friends, family. The class, the Magic, the special treatment, perks.
The Welcome Home, celebrations for DVC members, like the one 4 or 5 years ago were DVC members ran the MK and Epcot at night. The SSR grand opening at downtown disney with the Lunch provided by the vendors from DTD.
Yes, the DVC cruises are nice for 4 nights, but not everyone can afford those cruises.



Now its starting to sound like every other timeshare, the hustle and bustle, just another resort, another swap, just to make the money.

just like we get a discount on cash rooms if available, well i can book the room with AAA on cash and get the same discount. The old Dvc was cheaper at one point.

I want the OLD DVC back, when You Know Who was Vice pres. and trying to make a difference before he received his new job title & pay raise.
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Old 12-04-2008, 03:27 PM   #86
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The survey was about the name? WTH? Why waste people's time? Why don't they spend their funds (actually our funds) accomplishing something that all members can benefit from.
Member dues do not go toward funding of sales and marketing activities.

As long as DVC does not take away any perks currently extended to the general membership base, I don't have a problem with it. Programs like this a designed to engender greater goodwill from a company's best customers. It gives people an incentive to reach that next plateau of ownership if they value the perks being offered.

As someone else said, this is no different than frequent flyer or hotel reward programs.

I'm not sure that we, as DVC members, can play the "everyone should be equal" card. After all, we're the ones getting $125 Annual Pass discounts, our own slate of meal discounts, a discount golf package, free Internet service, new attraction previews, Merry Member Mixers, etc.

I assure you a class system already exists in the Disney theme park world, and DVC members aren't exactly at the bottom. If our $15,000 investment in DVC "entitles" us to the sort of benefits listed above, then doesn't it stand to reason that someone who invested $150,000 should be entitled to another tier of perks?

Just some food for thought...
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Old 12-04-2008, 03:51 PM   #87
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I assure you a class system already exists in the Disney theme park world, and DVC members aren't exactly at the bottom. If our $15,000 investment in DVC "entitles" us to the sort of benefits listed above, then doesn't it stand to reason that someone who invested $150,000 should be entitled to another tier of perks?

Just some food for thought...
If they ($150,000) are entitled, then give it to them at the beginning. DVC has no right to feel guilty (for charging them too much?) after the fact!

Then people bring up frequent flier perks and such combared to MF's? That's not valid, either. Airlines /credit cards do that to reward loyality. an AA rewards member can choose to spend all flying $$$ with another airline. It is not like a DVC member can give Mariott their MF's for the year. (Unless they sell. and if the problem is selling, then start a loyality, DVC anniversary program, not large point total program)
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Old 12-04-2008, 03:58 PM   #88
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You misunderstand. The point of these programs is not to reward people who already have reached the levels. The point is to encourage new people to strive for them.
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Old 12-04-2008, 04:16 PM   #89
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I have no problem with the concept. I'm sure it would be little perks such as a reception or gift basket or maybe a fastpass. What's the harm? It does show an appreciation to those that have invested a lot of money in DVC. They should get a perk or two.

If you were putting a point requirement on this club, where would it be?? 300points? (not even a week in a two bedroom during dream) 500? (that's better, 1.5 weeks in a 2 bedroom during dream) 700? (now were up to 2 weeks) Or how about round it up to a solid 1000? How many people have 1000?

I vote for 500! 'cuse that's what I've got!
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You misunderstand. The point of these programs is not to reward people who already have reached the levels. The point is to encourage new people to strive for them.
I have no problem with any program/club/perk that is funded 100% by the DVC sales people to whoever they want to reward.

I did notice several posts about potential BLT buyers who could not get ahold of their guide, and thought it was interesting seeing a post in this thread mentioning "special sales people" for those big spenders. That's 100% a sales staff issue...
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