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Old 04-27-2008, 11:24 PM   #61
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a graduated ND filter would definitely help with the above scene. i'd probably start with a stop or so underexposure and then go from there.
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Old 04-30-2008, 09:07 PM   #62
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Old 05-01-2008, 03:31 PM   #63
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FWIW, on my recent trip, I didn't mount my new ND8 filter even once, and used my circular polarizer less than I thought I might have before I left. Maybe because I was switching lenses so much, I didn't feel like switching filters, too. But I did wear my filter wallet on my belt every day so they were there waiting for me. I also don't have a CP for the lens I probably used the most (31mm F1.8) and my second-most-common was my fisheye, which you can't put a polarizer on. I could have used one for my macro lens but my CP in that filter size is a cheapie and I didn't want to chance degrading my image. So basically, I mainly used it on my 50-135mm, and once or twice on my 28-75mm which I didn't use often. I do think it did help, when I did use it. FWIW, it's a Hoya HMC, which isn't too cheap but not to expensive, either - bought from Spotlight Camera on eBay, I've bought from them twice and had very good results both times.

I don't think you'll find much use for ND filters at Disney parks. If things are so bright that you'll need one, then chances are it's midday and very crowded, and you're trying to get a slow shutter speed so you'll probably want to use a tripod or at least monopod, which will be even more of a pain during the day than in the evening. You need to be really after the photo. Even with all the gear I have carried my past few trips, there are shots that I think would be good that I just can't be bothered to go through the effort of taking - and that's saying something.

I personally don't think a split will be very useful either, as you'll rarely see a clear, open horizon - most of the time, you're looking at various buildings and structures, and those'll get darkened along with the sky.

Again, just my opinions for Disney park trips only. Not applicable for non-Disney-park situations.
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Old 05-11-2008, 02:55 PM   #64
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Anyone familiar with Formatt filters?

So dh asks me the other day if I'd like anything particular for mother's day, and I told him I want what every girl wants--a two-stop graduated neutral density filter for the wide angle lens I haven't ordered yet. I was looking at this one on B&H: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...l_Density.html

According to the specifications, it will rotate (I assume like a cp?). The comparable Tiffen says "not applicable" in that spot on the specs list. I've never used a split nd filter. How do you line it up correctly if it doesn't rotate? Am I just being dense (edited to apologize for the unintentional pun)?

Any thoughts?
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I don't know anything about Formatt. I will say that I have a strong personal preference for Cokin style GND filters. The Cokin style is a little plastic holder that screws onto the front of your lens. The filters are squares of filter material that you slide into the holder. Like the lens you described, you can rotate the holder. The big advantage is that you can slide the filter up and down (or left and right). No big deal for a polarizer, but for a GND, that means that you can stick the "horizon" line right where you want it.
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:23 PM   #66
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I don't know anything about Formatt. I will say that I have a strong personal preference for Cokin style GND filters. The Cokin style is a little plastic holder that screws onto the front of your lens. The filters are squares of filter material that you slide into the holder. Like the lens you described, you can rotate the holder. The big advantage is that you can slide the filter up and down (or left and right). No big deal for a polarizer, but for a GND, that means that you can stick the "horizon" line right where you want it.
That's a good point. I like to travel as light as possible, so a simple filter seemed preferable. But I'll look at the Cokin and similar some more.
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Must have filters?

I am ready to delve into the world of filters (beyond the UV that we already have as protection more than anything) - what do you more experienced persons consider essential in the world of filters? Based on what I know so far I am leaning towards, at minimum, the following:

Circular Polarizer
Graduated ND
Color Warming

Anything else that would be good (for mostly landscapes or indoor portraits, etc.)? Brand recommendations?
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All I currently have is the CP's, I have thought about ND's but haven't made the plunge yet.

Personally I wouldn't buy a colored filter, because you can do any of that in PP with digital.

The only other one that interests me at all is one of the Star Filters for long exposure night shots.

As for brand, mine are Hoya's. Remember that if you have an expensive lens and put a cheap filter in front of it, then you will have severely degraded the quality of the lens with that.
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All I currently have is the CP's, I have thought about ND's but haven't made the plunge yet.

Personally I wouldn't buy a colored filter, because you can do any of that in PP with digital.

The only other one that interests me at all is one of the Star Filters for long exposure night shots.

As for brand, mine are Hoya's. Remember that if you have an expensive lens and put a cheap filter in front of it, then you will have severely degraded the quality of the lens with that.
I am thinking of the color warming filter because I take photos for my office (employee awards and such) and we have horrid florecent lighting that makes everything yellow no matter what I do to the white balance, other settings, or do in photoshop. I am thinking that the color filter might allow me to use flash and get a better result on those. (I take them all outside whenever possible, though.)

Anyone have comments on Tiffen filters or any other brand recommendations? (Nothing against Hoya, I have a Hoya UV now, just looking at all options.)
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I am thinking of the color warming filter because I take photos for my office (employee awards and such) and we have horrid florecent lighting that makes everything yellow no matter what I do to the white balance, other settings, or do in photoshop. I am thinking that the color filter might allow me to use flash and get a better result on those. (I take them all outside whenever possible, though.)

Anyone have comments on Tiffen filters or any other brand recommendations? (Nothing against Hoya, I have a Hoya UV now, just looking at all options.)

For the horrid floresents get an 18% gray card and set your own custom WB. The one I have came from www.balancesmarter.com it is pretty slick

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Old 05-12-2008, 10:39 AM   #71
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One concern if you use a UV filter is to take it off before using other filters. Stacking filters multiplies any image degradation, especially flare.

The only filter I normally use is a polarizer. I have a 8X ND for lowering shutter speed on bright days but rarely use it. Instead of a split ND I use HDR with three images.
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I am thinking of the color warming filter because I take photos for my office (employee awards and such) and we have horrid florecent lighting that makes everything yellow no matter what I do to the white balance, other settings, or do in photoshop. I am thinking that the color filter might allow me to use flash and get a better result on those. (I take them all outside whenever possible, though.)

Anyone have comments on Tiffen filters or any other brand recommendations? (Nothing against Hoya, I have a Hoya UV now, just looking at all options.)

you should be able to color correct in photoshop,


I take pics in my office all the time, and color correction is simple with PAint shop pro..
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you should be able to color correct in photoshop,


I take pics in my office all the time, and color correction is simple with PAint shop pro..
The software I have available is basic Microsoft picture editor on the work computer, and an old version of PSP5 that is many years old and behind the times. I am by no means skilled in the arts of digital photo manipulation.
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Try posting a sample of one of your office pictures. A lot of us love tweaking other people's photos. Maybe we can help you find a way of fixing them with the tools you have.

I have the same problem you do taking pictures in my church's gymnasium; fourecent lights plus a yellow cast to the basketball court floor. Pictures of my son's cub scout meetings look awful. Do you use a flash in your office? In my case, the yellow from the gym plus the blue from the flash equals a white balance nightmare. Custom W/B is the best way to go.
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I, too, would suggest you forego the colored filters. Everything can be done in post-processing (still a stupid term to me. either you're processing or you are not.)

Now, if you are shooting JPG, you will have trouble correcting for the lighting in your office. If you have the option on the camera, set white balance to tungsten or white florescent (depending on the lighting) before the shot. This should help.

If your shooting RAW, then your camera surely came with some type of software that will help. It will have the capability to change the WB quite easily and it will not be necessary to set it on the camera. If you don't have the software, your manufacturer may have it available for download.
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