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Old 09-13-2007, 10:40 PM   #1
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Do children need to be present to apply for a passport?

Going to the post office to apply for passports for DS 3.5y and DS 3 months....do they have to come with me and be present or can I go by myself???
Can I pay by check?
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:46 PM   #2
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Yes, they have to be present. And it's my understanding that both parents must be present, also. And I know you can pay by check b/c that's what I did. I'd call the office you're going to, to make sure, so you can avoid unnecessary frustration (& wasted time).
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:49 PM   #3
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See if you can find a place that takes appts. Our city library does, and it was great -- the lady just asked to see both of our ids and the kids, then let us take turns filling out the paperwork, writing checks, etc. while the other watched the boys in the children's section of the library. Totally painless, very professional and all of 10 minutes.
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Old 09-13-2007, 11:11 PM   #4
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The kids have to be there as well as both parents. You can download the forms from online http://travel.state.gov/passport/forms/forms_847.html and fill it out before you get there (just don't sign it). This will definitely cut down on your time. Also we went and got photos done at CVS before we went to the USPS.

Yes you can pay by check just make sure you have 2 checks. One goes to the USPS fee and the other has to go with your application to the state department.
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Old 09-14-2007, 12:53 AM   #5
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Both my husband and I were present, but they only had me take the oath for the kids. He really didn't need to be there.
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Old 09-14-2007, 07:36 AM   #6
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Both parents...

Have to be there if you are not married to each other OR if your child is too young to identify herself and her parents.

I stoood in line for HOURS with a very nice woman and her boy at the passport office and when we finally made it to the window, they told her she could not get a passport for her son because the dad wasn't there. She had a letter from him but it was not notarized. She explained that he was a "deadbeat dad" who did not have custody and had no contact with his son at all and she could never get him to have anything notarized and they said TOO BAD.

Another couple in front of me told us that they had originally come with only one parent and a letter from the other (married parents) and had to come back, because their child was not old enough to give her own name and her dad's full name.

I know its inconvenient, but its good that their working so hard to prevent parental kidnapping.
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:25 AM   #7
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My child is 12 and both of us were told to show up when I called. The lady in front of us was turned away because the father was not present, thier child was a teenager.

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My child is 12 and both of us were told to show up when I called. The lady in front of us was turned away because the father was not present, thier child was a teenager.
Yes, it doesn't matter if the child is old enough to identify you or not. Both parents must be present to apply for a child's passport.

This is from the State Department's website...

For All Minors Under Age 14 :

* Each minor child shall appear in person.
* All applications for children under 14 require both parents' or legal guardians' consent.
( See Special Requirements for Children Under Age 14 )

For All Minors Ages 14 to 17:


* Each minor child shall appear in person.
* For security reasons, parental consent may be requested.
* If your child does not have identification of his/her own, you need to accompany your child and
present identification.
* Follow instructions below.


And...

(for minors under age 14)

1. Both parents must appear together and sign or

2. One parent appears, signs, and submits second parent's notarized statement of consent authorizing passport issuance for the child (a notarized Form DS-3053, Statement of Consent: Issuance of a Passport to a Minor Under Age 14 , or a notarized written statement with the same information on a sheet of paper from the non-appearing parent) or

3. One parents appears, signs, and submits primary evidence of sole authority to apply (such as one of the following):

* Child's certified U.S. or foreign birth certificate (with translation, if necessary) listing only applying parent; or
* Consular Report of Birth Abroad (Form FS-240) or Certification of Birth Abroad (Form DS-1350) listing only applying parent; or
* Court order granting sole custody to the applying parent (unless child's travel is restricted by that order); or
* Adoption decree (if applying parents is sole adopting parent); or
* Court order specifically permitting applying parent's or guardian's travel with the child; or
* Judicial declaration of incompetence of non-applying parent; or
* Death certificate of non-applying parent.

If none of the above documentation is available, the applying parent/guardian should submit a Form DS-3053: Statement of Consent: Issuance of a Passport to a Minor Under Age 14 .

NOTE:

A third-party in loco parentis applying on behalf of a minor under the age of 14 must submit a notarized written statement or affidavit from both parents or guardians authorizing a third-party to apply for a passport. When the statement or affidavit is from only one parent/guardian, the third-party must present evidence of sole custody of the authorizing parent/guardian.
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Old 09-14-2007, 09:07 AM   #9
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I had a notarized letter for my girls when I originally got their passports as dad was out of town. I believe we followed the requirements on the passport website. We were not turned away as whatever we had to do was done correctly.

For my son, dad was home, so we all went together.

So parent must be present or you must have a notarized form. I can't recall what is required for the notarized form though.
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Old 09-14-2007, 09:10 AM   #10
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Note also that for your 3 month old, they don't care if your 3 month old can or cannot sit up. You must have the photo done correctly.

We had to have our son's redone. For that age, lying down on a blanket is best and taking the photo from that angle. (a local Walgreens did an excellent job. Our AAA photo was rejected b/c his jowels fell out of the "dotted line" area.)

We were able to pay by check.
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Great question, I'm am getting my kids' apps ready and I wasn't even thinking I had to bring my husband along! Lovely, though...I checked our Passport Acceptance hours in our town - 9am to 4pm weekdays. DH is a teacher in the next city (i.e., no such thing as just running out for an errand); this is not going to be easy! grrr
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Old 09-14-2007, 09:22 AM   #12
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My husband and I were were both present. They made both of us take the oath.
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Old 09-14-2007, 01:17 PM   #13
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Great question, I'm am getting my kids' apps ready and I wasn't even thinking I had to bring my husband along! Lovely, though...I checked our Passport Acceptance hours in our town - 9am to 4pm weekdays. DH is a teacher in the next city (i.e., no such thing as just running out for an errand); this is not going to be easy! grrr
Find a notary that he can go to outside his work hours and he can get the form notarized. This will allow you to get the passports without him being physically present.
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Great question, I'm am getting my kids' apps ready and I wasn't even thinking I had to bring my husband along! Lovely, though...I checked our Passport Acceptance hours in our town - 9am to 4pm weekdays. DH is a teacher in the next city (i.e., no such thing as just running out for an errand); this is not going to be easy! grrr
Could you go to the town he works in and have them done there...either on his lunch break (if he gets one) or after school?
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Great question, I'm am getting my kids' apps ready and I wasn't even thinking I had to bring my husband along! Lovely, though...I checked our Passport Acceptance hours in our town - 9am to 4pm weekdays. DH is a teacher in the next city (i.e., no such thing as just running out for an errand); this is not going to be easy! grrr
We had similar logisitcal concerns -- easiest solution was for me to have my forms notarized (we have a notary public at work -- there may be one at the office at the school) and DW took that with her and kiddos (and all of the rest of the paperwork). No problem at all.
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