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Old 11-25-2012, 08:43 AM   #1591
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I have been going crazy over this big FF craze. I'm not sure if I really want to haul around a brick but I just couldn't resist the urge to try out. I was at the local BB yesterday and they had 2 in stock which was shocking. So far, just playing around the house, this thing is a BEAST. Not just any beast, a high ISO noise eating beast. I'm so use to shooting under 3200 on APS-C that I was amazed that the D600 can shoot at >3200 with ease. As a matter of fact, I took a couple of test shots at 6400 that are pretty much equivalent to 1600-2500 on my Nex 6. The other thing that I'm not used to is the OVF, there is no histogram and eventhough its a huge FF pentaprism, it's darker than my OLED EVF. Sony , you have spoiled me. I had almost forgot what a meter was. Anyway, I was trying to tell myself I could use a camera like this but it's just HUGE to me. I wish they had a Pentax K5IIs to look at around here.
Interesting notes. Were those noise levels in raw, or jpeg(after in-camera noise reduction)?

Even in crop cameras, Dxo rates Nikons better than Sony for noise.

On the a55, I start seeing noise in raw images over 1600. At 1600, I can see it in darker images, but bright images are pretty clear.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:43 AM   #1592
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Interesting notes. Were those noise levels in raw, or jpeg(after in-camera noise reduction)?

Even in crop cameras, Dxo rates Nikons better than Sony for noise.

On the a55, I start seeing noise in raw images over 1600. At 1600, I can see it in darker images, but bright images are pretty clear.
I always shoot RAW so I was comparing SOC with no noise reduction. The D600 beats out the A99 due to the translucent mirror. I think the RX1 would be the same as the D600 in terms of noise handling. I'm actually returning the D600 because its just larger than I want. I cant shoot with just one hand like I need with the kids sometimes. I have average hands and it just doesn't feel comfortable to me because I'm used to adjusting settings with one hand on the camera. When I picked up the D600 I was really looking for the Pentax K5IIs(no AA filter) but no one carries it locally. I think for myself I would rather spend the money on a K5IIs and lenses and I would still have money left over for even a new computer. I dont shoot at 6400 too often and I'm fine with 3200 on my Nex
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:30 PM   #1593
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Cool Alpha

So w/ the black Friday and Cyber Monday deals, anyone pick up or going to pick up a new Sony? A77 is $300 off and you can get a new TV w/ the A99.

I have been weighing the cost of A77 vs the A99. I am really leaning toward the A77 now as it is 1/3 the cost of the A99....I's like to get the Tamron f2.8 70-200, Battery Grip, and a couple extra batteries and that is still way less than the A99.

Finally broke down and bought a photo editing program this weekend. Couldn't resist photoshop elements 11 for $50.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:04 AM   #1594
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Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving! I don't know if I'm crazy or not, but I'm heading back down on December 19th and absolutely cannot wait to get back to shooting.

You all have shown me such incredible shots and have inspired me to step out of my boundaries. I'm looking forward to stealing all of your ideas!


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Old 11-26-2012, 10:27 AM   #1595
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So w/ the black Friday and Cyber Monday deals, anyone pick up or going to pick up a new Sony? A77 is $300 off and you can get a new TV w/ the A99.

I have been weighing the cost of A77 vs the A99. I am really leaning toward the A77 now as it is 1/3 the cost of the A99....I's like to get the Tamron f2.8 70-200, Battery Grip, and a couple extra batteries and that is still way less than the A99.

Finally broke down and bought a photo editing program this weekend. Couldn't resist photoshop elements 11 for $50.
I think the A77 is a great deal and it would be nice to have that 70-200.

Did you look into Lightroom 4 for $99. That is a steal on one hell of a program. If you shoot RAW, LR is fantastic. I have PS8, CS5, and havent touched them since getting Lightroom.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:01 AM   #1596
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I think the A77 is a great deal and it would be nice to have that 70-200.

Did you look into Lightroom 4 for $99. That is a steal on one hell of a program. If you shoot RAW, LR is fantastic. I have PS8, CS5, and havent touched them since getting Lightroom.
LR4 is still cheaper with an educational discount.... which even a child in your household in kindergarten can qualify for.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:22 AM   #1597
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I think the A77 is a great deal and it would be nice to have that 70-200.

Did you look into Lightroom 4 for $99. That is a steal on one hell of a program. If you shoot RAW, LR is fantastic. I have PS8, CS5, and havent touched them since getting Lightroom.
The only thing holding me back on the A77 is some reviews and comments that I read about the noise at higher ISO. Seems like the only negative about this camera. I want to take a step up from the A55 in that department not a step back. The A99 should be a definite step up but the cost is hinderance.

I did look at LR4. I was trying to choose between LR4 and PSE3. The $50 price tag of photoshop sold me. Have to start somewhere.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:43 AM   #1598
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The only thing holding me back on the A77 is some reviews and comments that I read about the noise at higher ISO. Seems like the only negative about this camera. I want to take a step up from the A55 in that department not a step back. The A99 should be a definite step up but the cost is hinderance.

I did look at LR4. I was trying to choose between LR4 and PSE3. The $50 price tag of photoshop sold me. Have to start somewhere.
If you end up shooting RAW like I do then you will end up buying LR4. The A99 has the noise problems also because they share the translucent mirror. I had the same problem with the Laea2 on my Nex. The adapter has the mirror and I could notice a noise difference with and without. Thats why the RX1 will do so much better than the A99 as far as noise.
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Old 11-26-2012, 06:08 PM   #1600
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If you end up shooting RAW like I do then you will end up buying LR4. The A99 has the noise problems also because they share the translucent mirror. I had the same problem with the Laea2 on my Nex. The adapter has the mirror and I could notice a noise difference with and without. Thats why the RX1 will do so much better than the A99 as far as noise.
Already bought PSE11. $50 was too good to pass up. I shoot mostly jpeg. I may just stick w/ my A55 for now. Love that camera. I think I'll wait until next year sometime. Wish the A55 had a grip...can't have everything I guess....

UPDATE: Couldn't resist the $300 off. Purchased the A77 last night along with the grip, couple of extra batteries, and the Tamron f2.8 70-200mm. I'll be the judge of the high ISO "issue", other than that the camera looks pretty awesome and many reviews and users agree.
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Mike, cool shot. I attempted a parade one night and ran out of memory as I setup to then realize that my other cards were back at the room. I had to make a mad dash to the camera store in MK through the Easter crowd, it was a nightmare.

I like the motion of lights in this shot.
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Mike, cool shot. I attempted a parade one night and ran out of memory as I setup to then realize that my other cards were back at the room. I had to make a mad dash to the camera store in MK through the Easter crowd, it was a nightmare.

I like the motion of lights in this shot.

Thanks Harry. I would have been so mad at myself if I did that lol. I try to use one or two main cards and then leave 3-4 smaller sized ones in my bag for spares. I hardly take them out so If I do happen to forget one of my larger ones I have them in my bag just in case.

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Absolutely wonderful shot, Mike!


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Awesome stuff y'all!!!

Hamilton, what have you been using more? Nex or A99?
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