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Old 07-03-2007, 01:01 PM   #241
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What a nice, well put post.I have felt the same. I am going in Oct. and it will be my last trip that I stay on property. I think they could of done a better job for the smokers. Yes you are probably right about losing our money but at least they will get the message. Doubt they really care. I think they underestimated how many smokers go there. I wish they had smoking rooms left in place. If your a smoker and want to smoke on vacation then get a smoking room. If you get a nonsmoking room and smoke in it you get fined simple as that. But who am I , just a small drop in the bucket money wise. any was nice post.
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Old 07-03-2007, 01:10 PM   #242
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This is a great time to remind everyone that this thread is to discuss the smoking DSAs at the Disney Resorts.

It is not the place to debate the Smoking Policy at Disney, the policy is in place and it is what it is.

As a reminder this thread was started with the following caveat:

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Please abide by these guidelines - and everyone can get the info they need.

If this does not work we will once again ban this topic from the resort board.
We (the Moderators) do not want to do this, BUT if this turns into a gripe fest about the policy or to a bunch of posts about - "I'll never stay at Disney again" it will be closed - and the topic banned from the resorts board.
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Old 07-03-2007, 02:00 PM   #243
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I may consider staying at the Ft. Wild. cabins because smoking is allowed on the decks.
I'm glad you posted this because DH and I were surprised by how few DSA's there were at Ft. Wilderness. DH was wondering if motor home owners were allowed to smoke inside their own motor homes. It never occurred to us that guests would be allowed to smoke on the decks of the cabins. We've stayed in those before and thought they were really nice and well equipped. I wouldn't mind staying there again except that they're just a little too remote for a long vacation (we definitely needed a car to get around to the parks).
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Old 07-03-2007, 03:24 PM   #244
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I'm glad you posted this because DH and I were surprised by how few DSA's there were at Ft. Wilderness. DH was wondering if motor home owners were allowed to smoke inside their own motor homes. It never occurred to us that guests would be allowed to smoke on the decks of the cabins. We've stayed in those before and thought they were really nice and well equipped. I wouldn't mind staying there again except that they're just a little too remote for a long vacation (we definitely needed a car to get around to the parks).
We have in fact changed our ressies to Fort Wilderness because of this. DH is disabled and a smoker, and a trek to a DSA would have been extremely inconvienient to say the least. We have had it confirmed both by the executive office and by the resort that whilst smoking is not permitted in the cabins it IS permitted on the cabin deck .
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Old 07-03-2007, 03:51 PM   #245
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This is a great time to remind everyone that this thread is to discuss the smoking DSAs at the Disney Resorts.

It is not the place to debate the Smoking Policy at Disney, the policy is in place and it is what it is.

As a reminder this thread was started with the following caveat:



We (the Moderators) do not want to do this, BUT if this turns into a gripe fest about the policy or to a bunch of posts about - "I'll never stay at Disney again" it will be closed - and the topic banned from the resorts board.
Sorry I thought suggesting the balconies be DSAs were on topic.
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Old 07-03-2007, 04:13 PM   #246
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Nope, that would be leaning toward debating or discussing the policy - and the thread for THAT is on the Community Board
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We have in fact changed our ressies to Fort Wilderness because of this. DH is disabled and a smoker, and a trek to a DSA would have been extremely inconvienient to say the least. We have had it confirmed both by the executive office and by the resort that whilst smoking is not permitted in the cabins it IS permitted on the cabin deck .
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A big plus for your DH will be that you can park your car, literally, right at the deck, so no trek to the car for him either!

I wonder why it isn't stated on the map that smoking is permitted on the decks. I suppose there may be other unmarked DSA's that we'll learn about on this thread as DIS-ers report their experiences.
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Old 07-03-2007, 05:52 PM   #248
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I haven't read this thread so I'm not sure if this has been mentioned or not. We were at Shades of Green in March and my dad is a smoker. We didn't think he'd be able to smoke on the balcony, but there is a paper in the rooms that states smoking on the balconies is allowed as long as the sliding door stays shut.
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Old 07-03-2007, 08:55 PM   #249
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I haven't read this thread so I'm not sure if this has been mentioned or not. We were at Shades of Green in March and my dad is a smoker. We didn't think he'd be able to smoke on the balcony, but there is a paper in the rooms that states smoking on the balconies is allowed as long as the sliding door stays shut.
SOG may have some exceptions/exemptions since it is not actually run by Disney.

I was wondering about WL....DS has severe allergies that can be set off by smoke and even smoke smell in drapes, carpet, etc. I tried to request a room that had never been used as a smoking room but was told that I couldn't since all rooms will be NS when we are there. Were all former smoking rooms on the same floor or wing at WL? Maybe I can request NOT___ floor or Not___wing. Any help in theis area would be greatly appreciated. TIA
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mary2e stated:
Other DSA locations were on 2nd and 3rd floors of some buildings, though I think it was the buildings without much land around them.

Could you explain about the DSA locations on 2nd/3rd floors of some buildings? Just wondering how this is set up?

I have been concerned about how inconvenient it would be for me to have to take an elevator down to ground floor with my morning coffee or late night tea if I were in a resort such as VWL or WL and would be unable to get ground floor. Many of the Disney resorts have many floors and I have been figuring that my stays would be limited to those resorts such as SSR where it would be easier to request and be given ground floor.

I am trying to envision DSA on higher up floors and I just can't figure out what you mean.

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I haven't read this thread so I'm not sure if this has been mentioned or not. We were at Shades of Green in March and my dad is a smoker. We didn't think he'd be able to smoke on the balcony, but there is a paper in the rooms that states smoking on the balconies is allowed as long as the sliding door stays shut.
The new smoking policy went into effect after your trip in March. It started on June 1st.
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Old 07-04-2007, 06:44 AM   #252
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We had originally requested a smoking room at the YC so we could smoke on the balcony. (Even before the change I didn't smoke inside and didn't think I should smoke on the balcony of a non-smoking room.) When the policy changed, I changed my room request to "First Floor/Easy Access to a DSA." We'll see next week if I got my request and how things are working with a few weeks experience.
My bro and I are meeting up with our families there in a little while.

I smoke once or twice a year and usually enjoy a nice, fat cigar. My bro and I will find some nice spot outside, maybe around the lake there at the YC and haul out a bottle of scotch with our stogies. I imagine there's no problem with that on the beach there, correct?

For infrequent smokers, just a quick suggestion. I can't stand the taste of smoke in my mouth any longer than when I'm smoking. I've found that brushing with diluted Hydrogen Peroxide and Arm&Hammer Toothpaste with baking sode (not together) will pretty much eliminate the taste/smell by the next morning.
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Old 07-04-2007, 07:18 AM   #253
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My bro and I are meeting up with our families there in a little while.

I smoke once or twice a year and usually enjoy a nice, fat cigar. My bro and I will find some nice spot outside, maybe around the lake there at the YC and haul out a bottle of scotch with our stogies. I imagine there's no problem with that on the beach there, correct?
Here is the link to the map by for the Yacht and Beach Clubs. It appears that there are a couple of DSAs close to the beach.

http://www.wdwinfo.com/maps/YachtBeachMap.pdf
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Other DSA locations were on 2nd and 3rd floors of some buildings, though I think it was the buildings without much land around them.

Could you explain about the DSA locations on 2nd/3rd floors of some buildings? Just wondering how this is set up?

I am trying to envision DSA on higher up floors and I just can't figure out what you mean.
The Poly buildings all have emergency exit staircases with fairly large landings at each floor. You could call some of them outdoor patio areas - they're that large. The DSAs are on those landings/decks.

BUT, it's only a few of the buildings. Most of the DSAs are on the ground level.
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Just as an interesting side note
-- I recently recieved a DVC confirmation of a reservation for November '07.

At the bottom, it states that "all rooms are non-smoking".
I would have thought the verbage would include 'balconies/patios'...or at least to include 'appurtenance(s)'.

No reference whatsoever of any fees/fines appeared on the confirmation.


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