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Old 07-08-2011, 12:39 AM   #1876
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So we should plan on having the air conditioning issues while at OKW in a few weeks? I was hoping to not have to deal with it!

I've researched all the threads on bypassing the motion sensor and overriding the temp. I hope we can figure it out so everyone can sleep! We need it cool to sleep thru the night.

We are starting to get really excited. Today DD asked me when we can start packing!
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Old 07-08-2011, 08:19 AM   #1877
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See this post for instructions on how to bypass the motion sensors:
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The rest of the thread is interesting too!
Thank you!!!

We are heading back in August so this info will be used very soon.
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Old 07-08-2011, 12:08 PM   #1878
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i havnt seen the door sensors yet but if you look in the door jams, im sure you will find a "switch" looking thing, a ball or a pin type switch like you find on your fridg door. slap a piece of tape over it and it keeps the switch closed,keeping the a/c running. if the motion sensor is on the tstat, there are alot of ways around that also, a wind catcher (those small plastic spinning things people hang on there porches, string with some card board by the big a/c return in the hall will move. a small osculating desk fan without the fan blade moving will keep in on. putting the floor lamp in the living room under the tstat will keep the tstat warm and keep the a/c on. i do this for a living and ive seen it all!!! people to keep the heat on will put an ice pack on the tstat. this all being said, most new commercial building now use wall sensors (preset bulbs in the wall to scense temp.) and outside bulbs to sense outdoor temp drops and these are all run back to a central program that is controlled by the owners, maintaince staff of the building. they put little white boxs with buttons on the walls to give people something to play with.
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i havnt seen the door sensors yet but if you look in the door jams, im sure you will find a "switch" looking thing, a ball or a pin type switch like you find on your fridg door. slap a piece of tape over it and it keeps the switch closed,keeping the a/c running. if the motion sensor is on the tstat, there are alot of ways around that also, a wind catcher (those small plastic spinning things people hang on there porches, string with some card board by the big a/c return in the hall will move. a small osculating desk fan without the fan blade moving will keep in on. putting the floor lamp in the living room under the tstat will keep the tstat warm and keep the a/c on. i do this for a living and ive seen it all!!! people to keep the heat on will put an ice pack on the tstat. this all being said, most new commercial building now use wall sensors (preset bulbs in the wall to scense temp.) and outside bulbs to sense outdoor temp drops and these are all run back to a central program that is controlled by the owners, maintaince staff of the building. they put little white boxs with buttons on the walls to give people something to play with.
The new systems have gotten too smart for these ideas to work. The new thermostats and senors work by sensing infrared heat from warm bodies, not motion.

The sensors on the doors aren't buttons either; just flat contacts. Nothing to push in or block.

Here is some information from the manual for the system:

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The entire system is controlled through a "Room Control Unit" (RCU) – This component is the brains of the system. It gets input from all the devices of the system and makes decisions based on this input. The RCU is locked up somewhere, probably with the furnace/AC unit.

WDDC Thermostat
The WDDC consists of five buttons:
• Power On/Off
• Fan – Depending on the way the WDDC is configured, this button is used to select Auto, Low, Medium, and High fan speeds.
• Warmer – This button is used to raise the set temperature of the room.
• Cooler – This button is used to lower the set temperature of the room.
• F/C – Used to display the temperature in Fahrenheit or Celsius. This button is also used to set the WDDC system into Soft Bypass mode. To do so, press and hold the button for 3 seconds until bp is displayed on the screen, indicating that the Energy Management functions have now been bypassed in the RCU for a period of 48 hours. The WDDC has a built in Passive Infrared (PIR) sensor that will sense human motion in the sensing area while filtering out motion from non-human sources such as draperies.

WDDC Motion Sensor
The WDDC Wall Unit has a built in Passive Infrared (PIR) motion sensor. The PIR detection pattern is 150° horizontal and 30° vertical down (refer to Figure 14 and Figure 15 on Page 28). The PIR senses differences in the temperature of a person in the room and the background temperature of the walls, furniture and fixtures. As a result, occupants are detected as they pass through the sensor’s zones; and, any motion from inanimate objects such as movement from the draperies will not be detected.

Soft Bypass
At times, it is necessary to bypass the energy management functions of the system. To do this, press and hold d the F/C button on the WDDC for 3 seconds and you will see bp (bypass) on the screen. The unit sends a message to the RCU changing the settings so that it functions as a normal thermostat with no energy management functions for 48 hours.
There's also a remote motion sensor in the bedroom(s).
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The new systems have gotten too smart for these ideas to work. The new thermostats and senors work by sensing infrared heat from warm bodies, not motion.

The sensors on the doors aren't buttons either; just flat contacts. Nothing to push in or block.

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There's also a remote motion sensor in the bedroom(s).
intresting. we sell a simliar system from tekmar controll. all objects above absolute zero emit radiation. most infrared detectors will pick up the heat from a light bulb. alot of sensors today are going that way. we have outdoor sensors that detect temp., light , dampness etc. we use moisture indicators for snowmelt systems and carwash exit areas.turns the boiler on to heat the pad and dry it off so it dont ice up.theres so many things anymore its hard to keep up. like we say at work, we can do what ever you want, how much money do you want to spend.
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my wife loves okw---i am a bcv person
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Old 07-08-2011, 03:18 PM   #1882
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Than perhaps you need to toodle on over to the BCV thread.
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tell him diane!!! this is for okw lovers only.
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I think you both have good taste.
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Old 07-09-2011, 01:02 PM   #1886
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We were there 5/29-6/10 staying in building 14. No doubt we also crossed paths as we used the HH and Peninsular bus stops. It was just my DW and DD that had just graduated from high school.
I'm sure I walked past you while you were in the Gurgling Suitcase!
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I'm sure I walked past you while you were in the Gurgling Suitcase!
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Hmmm. This gives a whole new perspective on mixed marriage? I apologize in advance for my lack of pc.
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Just got back from OKW and all I can say is "IT WAS AWESOME and SOOO relaxing!!" My husband even told a guy on the plane who just stayed at the GF that he should try OKW next time. Kids had a great time with all the 4th of July games etc, mom and dad loved the Gurgling Suitcase and the Turtle Krawl!! We stayed in building 16 first floor and absolutely loved everything about the resort. I could stay there a week and NEVER leave! Definately a gem at WDW!
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