Ths DIS is a great place to ask Disney Cruise Line questions and share tips.
Dreams Unlimited Travel - The official sponsor of the Disney Cruise Forums Dreams Unlimited Travel - the official sponsor of the Disney Cruise Forums  

Go Back   The DIS Discussion Forums - DISboards.com > Disney Cruise Line > Disney Cruise Line Forum
Find Hotel Specials & DIScounts
 
facebooktwitterpinterestgoogle plusyoutubeDIS Updates
Register Chat FAQ Tickers Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read



Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 03-21-2006, 04:53 PM   #1
ceejay13
DIS Veteran
 
ceejay13's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Wichita, Kansas
Posts: 1,637

Unhappy Med Price DCL vs Celebrity

I have been excited for months about this day and couldn't wait for the announcement. The Mystery at Sea was so much fun and just heightened the anticipation. To say that I am disappointed is an understatement. The cost compared to Celebrity for a comparable cruise is incredible. We can save almost $2,000 per person for the same cabin w/verandah, and almost the same itinerary as DCL. I am as big a fan of DCL and Disney as anyone and I didn't think I would be one saying this but we won't be going to the Med on DCL. Last year we did the eastbound repo and it was the trip of a lifetime. I loved every minute of it. There is a $1300 per difference in the price of the category 5 last year vs they Med repo, and the ports are not what I thought they would be either. I have spent the day planning our cruise but not with DCL. I have to say I am a little sad because I love DCL but still excited about our trip next year.
__________________
ceejay13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2006, 06:22 PM   #2
SimonV
Proud to have called Bob Varley 'friend'
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Orlando
Posts: 2,787

Hopefully enough people will think like you on the price issue, Ceejay, to make DCL think twice about this in future. There is a great vibe about doing DCL in Europe, but not at these prices and with these itineraries, IMHO.
SimonV is offline   Reply With Quote
|
The DIS
Register to remove

Join Date: 1997
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 1,000,000
Old 03-21-2006, 06:38 PM   #3
magiroux
But what about the rum punch?
 
magiroux's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: MA
Posts: 3,627

I have never priced out, nor cruised, anything except DCL. But, isn't it pretty common knowledge that just about every other cruise line is much cheaper than DCL. Yet, they still run at an average of 90% capacity all year long.

They seem to know they have a much better product/service to offer and are going to get what the market will allow.

I guess I'm confused at everyone's shock at how high these prices are going to be
__________________
-Mary Ann -Why is the Rum Punch Always Gone?
magiroux is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2006, 06:53 PM   #4
gizfish
We wants the redhead! Gives us the redhead!
 
gizfish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 406

While it is true that for the stateside cruises that Disney does you do get what you pay for, these costs for the new cruises are more along the lines of the upscale lines like Crystal, Oceania, etc. I can understand DCL belongs in the higher parts of its class of cruiseline, but I am sorry, they are just not that far up there. If I didn't know better I would think the mouse has been smoking crack. You can book a balcony on a similar cruise on an upscale line like Oceania for much less than the over $4,000.00 DCL wants for a balcony cabin. I know DCL is great on details, but I am sure that the upscale lines have perfect service and attention to detail under their belts as well, AND the food would be better and the ships different to what we have all seen on DCL since they only do have the two (pretty much identical) ships. And, if you wanted to see Europe and have lots of activities, a casino, much more to look at on the ship and more food options, Carnival does the Med for more than half off what DCL wants for it.
gizfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2006, 06:59 PM   #5
kaseyC


Mother of Three Lovely Princesses
DVC Owner - BWV
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Lake Villa, IL
Posts: 4,217

Believe it or not DCL's rates for these cruises are real close to those of the ultra luxury cruiselines such as Regent(formerly Radisson) and Silversea. The fares on these lines are truly all-inclusive - no tips and all beverages (alcoholic and non-alcoholic). On their European cruises they sometimes even throw in an exclusive shore excursion.
__________________
BC/ Disney Wonder 2000 ~ Poly Concierge 2002 ~ BC Concierge 2003 ~ SSR 2004 ~ BWV 2005 ~ WL Concierge 2006 ~ Disney Wonder/BWV 2006 ~ BWV 2007 ~ Disney Magic Trans-Atlantic Repo 2007 ~ Disney Magic W. Caribbean 2007 ~ AKV 2008 ~ BWV F&WF 2008 ~ Poly CL 2008/2009 ~ BCV/ Disney Magic E. Caribbean 2009 ~ BWV 2010 ~ AKV/ Disney Dream B2B 2011~ BW Flower & Garden Weekend 2011 ~ BLT 2012 ~ Disney Fantasy E. Caribbean 2012 ~ Disney Magic EBTA 2013 ~ Disneyland Paris 2013 ~ Disney Magic EBTA 2014 ~ Grand Californian CL 2014
kaseyC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2006, 07:23 PM   #6
mac_tlc
DIS Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: CT
Posts: 682

I agree ... I'll be waiting for the Celebrity Millennium pricing for summer 2007. It's a day longer (12 vs. 11), better itinerary, assuming its similiar to this years, and cheaper, by several thousand dollars.. almost pays for the airfare, or maybe leaves a few $$ left over for the expensive European shore excursions.

mac_tlc
__________________
DVC '92
'74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '80, '83 (hunnymoon), '85, '90, '91 off-site
'92 DVC, '93 DVC (2) , '94 DVC (3) , '96 OKW (3), VB ,
'97 OKW (2), VB , '98 OKW(2), VB
'99 WL, OKW(2) , '00 OKW (2), Magic, VB
'01 DLR (DH), VWL, BWV, Magic
’02 OKW, DLR (DH), Magic (11/30 - NOT), CS , '03 OKW, Magic (11/8), VWL,
'04 CS, OKW (2), '05 OKW, '06 SSR, OKW , '07 VWL, OKW (3), VB
'08 DLR (GC), OKW, '09 SSR, BLT,OKW(3)
'10 AKV, BLT (DD wedding) , '11 OKW, SSR, BLT , '12 VGC, FW, BLT, '13 BLT
mac_tlc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2006, 08:03 PM   #7
ricka47


Mouseketeer
 
ricka47's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Florida
Posts: 333

For these types of prices and the value they offer, DCL is out of line. But, as long as people will pay it, they will charge it and they can't be blamed for that. Once families who were "DCL or nothing" see what else is out there (and will try something else), maybe DCL will be forced to change and bring the price more in line with what they have to offer.

To the OP, Celebrity has beautiful ships, better food, and attentive, elegant service. Their shows are not as good as DCL and you will not see Mickey. But, each person or family needs to figure what they will pay for intangibles when they are giving up some real tangible items on DCL.
__________________
Rick
Fernandina Beach, FL
ricka47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2006, 09:34 PM   #8
SimonV
Proud to have called Bob Varley 'friend'
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Orlando
Posts: 2,787

Actually, if you are on the Millenium-class ships of Celebrity, their alternative dining is some of the best anywhere at sea, including the six-star lines. I saw a lot of their Century-class when they first came out, and they really raised the bar in terms of big-ship cuisine and service. In many respects, they definitely do beat DCL, so it is a question of you pay your money and take your choice!
SimonV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2006, 10:58 PM   #9
challada
I believe in Pixie Dust!
Loves Sunday brunch at House of Blues
DREAM ME BABY
 
challada's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: WA state
Posts: 1,436

Yep, I can transatlantic on the QE2 for less....there AND back!

While I loved my Disney Cruise I took last year, there is no WAY it could beat doing TWO cruises on the QE2 for less money!
__________________


The best years are Disney Years:
WDW 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1984, 1987, 2001, 2006, 2010
Disneyland 1982, 1990, 1994, 1997, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2012, 2014
Disney Cruise 2005
challada is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2006, 11:04 PM   #10
captaincrash
!!!Surrender over yer LOOT!!!!
Takes 1,647,924 cruise pictures per day
 
captaincrash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Westlake Village, Calif.
Posts: 10,497

Yeah...

Last Summer we were booked on the Radisson Diamond for the MED... it was one of their older ships and the pricing was comparable to DCL. BUT the expected experience was far different... and we had shopped this against the mainstream middle market lines and the pricing was significantly lower with a wider range of ports and longer voyages for similar or less money.

Off hand, DCL gets more money not because they deliver more ports or days at sea... but because for a segment of the marketplace the ship itself is THE DESTINATION as much as the ports. For MY family the ship IS the destination and the ports are clearly secondary. Frankly, I am egar to take DCL to places other then the run of the mill eastern or western sailings - provided the pricing is less than insulting.

Except for the fact we are VERY TOLERANT of repeating the Eastern - we reallywould not care where it went to. The eastern ports offerred happen to be among our favorites (among many). So we've actually booked the eastern 4 years in a row now on the Magic. After doing 15-17 cruises (varies with either my spouses' history or mine) we had never repeated a cruise ship or itinerary until we sailed the Magic. Then we did the same dang ship and port schedule 4 years in a row! So... we are DCL fans of a sort.

HOWEVER, we have our own idea of what something is worth. And in Europe we are certain we would be happy with other lines as much as DCL given the slightly different nature of the port schedule. Frankly, we are cozy sailing with any line and ship - from a deeply discounted grand dame doing a lowly western or Bahamas voyage to something more exotic and amitious. HOWEVER, with our young kids (2 and 5 currently) the Mouse has us in his claws. And the pricing for 7 nite carib sailings booked sufficiently in advance is tolerable to us. We could afford to book the Walt suite but we honestly don't have much desire for it.

Well... pardon me for starting to rant and spurt jets of flames. I must say we love bargains and value (who would not except a fool?). And as such we feel the pricing - booked sufficeintly in advance - is a tolerable deal with DCL in the Carib. In a couple of years when our kids are older I would say that DCL will have a LOT of competition for our vacation dollars though. And we are definately going to concentrate on voyages that focus more on the voyage as opposed to the entertainment value from a childs' POV.

HEY - in the final analysis there are going to be a huge range of personalities sailing with widely varying perspectives on value and otherwise. Some folks probably look on DCL as a bargain at ANY price given we all have but ONE life to live on Earth. I've had some close friends and family suffer chronic developements... and each has a handful of years remaining (most likely). These reminders of our frail mortality give me pause to conmsider just splurging it all before I run out of time...
nawww.... I don't feel compelled to leave my kids nothing. Some folks seem to joke about it and live a lifestyle that does not make it a false threat.

Different strokes for different folks. Some folks think my spouse and I are pretty well traveled... we know of very few folks who have traveled as widely or as frequently as we have. BUT we think of ourselves as somewhat restarined and even frugal. Oh well....
__________________

captaincrash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2006, 05:40 AM   #11
Miss Eeyore
DIS Veteran
Disney Royalty
Done the Disney thing
 
Miss Eeyore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Ellensburg, Washington
Posts: 534

no Mouse, but I'll take the money and run

I love DCL.....but the ports and pricing have me scratching my head. We have sailed many different lines and have loved some or many aspects of them all. I love the Disney brand, but when push came to shove on these new itineraries we decided enough was enough.

We had already booked a Celebrity cruise for summer 06, and have been waiting like everyone else here to hear about summer 07. I had to pick my jaw up off the floor when I saw the prices. Celebrity is a different kind of experience than DCL....different, not better or worse. The food is to die for. But I don't get my Disney fix there.

To compare prices.....for the TWO of us in a consierge level verandah cabin for 12 days we are paying what DCL is charging for ONE passenger in a regular verandah cabin for a 10-day cruise. The price difference more than pays for the airfare two times over.

I have been watching the incredible rise in DCL fares for several years, wondering when the buybble might burst. I have been wondering at what price point the Disney brand will no longer allow them to charge a premium. For young families with children the DCL experience is unmatched. But for those cruising without kids for brand loyalty reasons, I wonder how long that loyalty will last.
Miss Eeyore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2006, 08:07 AM   #12
mmouse37
Mickey for Me!
Likes surprises
 
mmouse37's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Too far from the Magic!!
Posts: 27,725

Coincidently I just received an American Express Cruise Travel brochure in the mail yesterday for trip to the med.....they are offering 12 nights Rome to Instanbul for an oceanview $3,299 pp and balcony for $3,899 per person with free air.

Or, a 25 night Instanbul to Singapore for $4,899 pp oceanview and $5,499 balcony with free air.

These are both on the Oceania Nautica.....

Holland America was offering 10 night from Ft. Lauderdale R/T thru Panama Canal for $1549 pp oceanview and $2,144 pp for balcony and $3,574 pp for deluxe suite.

Then what caught my eye was

Princess Cruises Island Princess 15 night LA to Hawaii and back.....$2,075 pp oceanview and $2,395 pp balcony and $2,695 pp mini suite...with stops in Honolulu, Hilo, Maui, Kauai

These are great prices....based on these compared to DCL med pricing, DCL is very high.
__________________
31 DCL Cruises and Counting!
Disney Magic - 19 times - Official Maiden Voyage July 30, 1998, Re-imagined Magic October 27, 2013
Disney Wonder - 5 times
Disney Dream - 5 times - Official Maiden Voyage January 26, 2011
Disney Fantasy - 2 times

mmouse37 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2006, 08:14 AM   #13
starwood
This mouse GOT her next cruise
I won't even tell my DH what I'm doing. He already thinks I'm nuts
 
starwood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Northern NJ
Posts: 6,355

I'm confused. Why is the price for the 14 day westbound repo $200 cheaper than the 10 night cruise? The price is listed for a cat 9 10 night at $2899-$3899 and the same cat for the 14 day repo is $2699-$3899. Doesn't make sense.
__________________
"Today is forever, tomorrow is just one of yesterday's dreams"
WDW 4/18/2008 Bergenfield High School Marching Band at the Magic Kingdom


Environmentallity Begins With You
starwood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2006, 08:39 AM   #14
bslowry
Earning My Ears
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: indiana
Posts: 56

mmouse37, that Hawaiian cruise looks great for the price. I have been trying to figure out how to do the med cruise but now I am going to go look up that Hawaiian cruise. Thanks!
bslowry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2006, 08:56 AM   #15
GrayFal
I am REALLY over-vacationed this year ... well, EVERY year!
 
GrayFal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The Hamptons, New York
Posts: 1,905

Quote:
Originally Posted by starwood
I'm confused. Why is the price for the 14 day westbound repo $200 cheaper than the 10 night cruise? The price is listed for a cat 9 10 night at $2899-$3899 and the same cat for the 14 day repo is $2699-$3899. Doesn't make sense.
Port charges,,,,,,repo only has a few stops.....
__________________
Pat
"The Big Red Boat" Disney Cruise X 2 Wonder New Years Eve 2002/03
Magic Eastern 11/13/04 Magic Altered Western 12/03/05
Magic "Double Dip" Special Western 11/11/06 Magic Trans-Atlantic Repo 8/18/07

Wonder 12/6/07 "Surf & Turf" 9/18/10 Magic Westbound Trans-Atlantic "30th Anniversary" Cruise
& 14 Day Hawaii October 2012
GrayFal is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

facebooktwitterpinterestgoogle plusyoutubeDIS Updates
GET OUR DIS UPDATES DELIVERED BY EMAIL



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:30 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Copyright © 1997-2014, Werner Technologies, LLC. All Rights Reserved.