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Old 03-21-2006, 01:51 PM   #31
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Yeah, my first post there was something along the lines of...
You can't choose who you love and if you think you can then you've obviously never been in love.
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Old 03-21-2006, 02:14 PM   #32
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Yeah, my first post there was something along the lines of...
You can't choose who you love and if you think you can then you've obviously never been in love.

Oh my gosh that is so true.
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Old 03-21-2006, 03:08 PM   #33
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I posted on this thread , I continue reading it and might post again.

I can understand that some of the people who posted ther gets us mad , but others are harmelss. In fact , I think a few of them got a bad wrapp they did not deserve. I kind of understand what some of them say when they talk about there belief in god , and how they follow there religion and what they think there religion says about homosexuality. And I feel I could be sitting with them , having great conversation and trully like them and they would trully like me ( exept for my "sins" I guess. And I know for sure a lot of them would not want to see me near them ! Maybe it is because we dont see this type of religiosity here in Canada ( at least here in Québec) that makes me feel this way. I did not feel persecuted by a lot of the comment I read there. Maybe it is just me or that I am missing something in the translation. Now , as far as Joe and people like him goes...I dont even get mad at them : they have found a way to have all there questions answered and obliterate every doubt they might have. Ignorance is bliss !
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Old 03-21-2006, 03:14 PM   #34
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I have a good friend that chose (or so she said) to be gay. She had never been in a relationship with another woman until she met her SO, and always called it an experiment. That experiment lasted over ten years.
Personally, I don't care if someone is born that way or chooses to be with someone of the same sex, or a multitude of people of whatever sex. We should treat everyone with respect and dignity equally, regardless of who they share the morning paper with.

That thread, that's something else though... The whole board is arguing with two or three people, who say nothing but a variation of "it's true because my bible says so"
I never did get an answer to my question about who intersexed people should marry. Maybe I've stumped them.
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Old 03-21-2006, 03:14 PM   #35
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God loves everyone, regardless of whom they love, or how they live their lives. God wants everyone to find the person who makes them so happy they will no longer doubt that God exists and what it feels like to be loved by God. God wants you to find the person, regardless of gender, who can make you believe in the love of God.
Wow, that's really nice. I'm not sure how anyone could argue with that but I'm sure I'd rather try to teach a pig to sing than argue with such a person.
It brought a tear to my eye, making me remember my own grandparents, who although weren't ministers, were beautiful loving people like your grandfather.
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Old 03-21-2006, 03:20 PM   #36
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I haven't even opened the thread on the CB because I won't be able to play nice if I do.
That's similar to how I feel about it. I started reading some of the posts in the beginning, but soon realized it was going to turn into another of "those" threads, particularly with the poster in question who Rick referred to. Some posters seem to just want to stir up controversy - maybe that's how they get their fun?

I get too angry, and have found that there's no convincing some people. They are ignorant and 'choose' to stay that way, apparently.

Personally I think I have much more of a positive influence in my own family and church than on a message board with some very annoying, small-minded people. I'm not persuasive enough with my writing to make a difference, but I often do stand up for the rights of others IRL.

As a C(?)SP, I'm trying to teach love and respect to my kids, and they learn that best from the way I interact with others, and how we speak in our home.

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Old 03-21-2006, 03:44 PM   #37
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I checked out the poster you are refering to. I find I skip his posts since I never find much value in what he says. I have no idea what God's will is, how could I? I am not God. People like him really make me hang my head in shame as a Christian. I believe in love and acceptance not hatred and bigotry.
You took the words right out of my mouth.

I'm staying away from that thread now because it doesn't seem like anything new is going to be said, and frankly I'm tired of reading all the God references. I believe in God, I'm Catholic, but my religion doesn't rule or dictate my life.

I'm so very sorry for the ignorance being spouted on that thread. I am thankful however that there seems to be far more supportive statements than not.

I won't be posting over there because I'm positive I won't be pleasant and I really don't want to get banned. But do know that I'm fuming over some of the things that I've read.
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Old 03-21-2006, 05:23 PM   #38
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100 ACRES Point of View

After reading the Posts from the Community Board Thread,
even the gang at 100 Acres can not make its mind up over the fury.

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Pooh would like to come out and is timid and scared.
He is afraid that the others will not understand,
and he fears that they will think this is some reactionary choice on his part.
He just always remembers having these feelings from when he was a cub.
He can not admit that he has this huge crush on Tigger.

Tigger does not have the same feelings as Pooh, but he would be an understanding friend.
Tigger continues to bounce around the issue.

Eyeore isn't concerned, he just wants everyone to listen to his problems.

Piglet has no idea, "What is Gay ? "

Rabbit has his principles, and doesn't think the 100 Acres is the place
for these kind of feelings. Rabbit is thinking Pooh is making a bad choice.
Rabbit will consult with the author of the novel.

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Hope your Laughing !

Don't get me started on Looney Tunes, Is there a Board for that too ?
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Old 03-21-2006, 07:23 PM   #39
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Just thought I'd have a little humor break. That thread is something else, but I won't let it upset me because when the time come I won't have to answer to them, I'll have to answer to God. I am a pretty decent person and try to lead the best life possible. I like to treat people with respect and not judge them. The whole judge a book by its cover thing, if everyone lived by that this world would be a much better place.

So here is a piece of humor that was posted on another board I read (predominately lesbian board )

Top Ten Things Heterosexuals Need to Know About Gay People

10. We didn't invent disco music so stop blaming us.

9. We're not sure about Ricky Martin either.

8. We also didn't invent the color black, but we are in complete agreement that you look better in it.

7. We are secretly glad Anne Heche is back on your team. She scares us.

6. Our so-called "gaydar" does not get us more cable stations or better reception.

5. We think your mini-vans are sooo cute!

4. David Crosby was not Melissa Etheridge's only choice.

3. If he's using two or more hair products at any one time -- yes, he is.

2. If she's won Wimbledon sixteen times, she is too.

And, the number one thing that heterosexuals need to know about gay people is...

1. Relax, we don't want you

I thought it was cute.
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Old 03-21-2006, 07:42 PM   #40
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Just thought I'd have a little humor break. That thread is something else, but I won't let it upset me because when the time come I won't have to answer to them, I'll have to answer to God. I am a pretty decent person and try to lead the best life possible. I like to treat people with respect and not judge them. The whole judge a book by its cover thing, if everyone lived by that this world would be a much better place.

So here is a piece of humor that was posted on another board I read (predominately lesbian board )

Top Ten Things Heterosexuals Need to Know About Gay People

10. We didn't invent disco music so stop blaming us.

9. We're not sure about Ricky Martin either.

8. We also didn't invent the color black, but we are in complete agreement that you look better in it.

7. We are secretly glad Anne Heche is back on your team. She scares us.

6. Our so-called "gaydar" does not get us more cable stations or better reception.

5. We think your mini-vans are sooo cute!

4. David Crosby was not Melissa Etheridge's only choice.

3. If he's using two or more hair products at any one time -- yes, he is.

2. If she's won Wimbledon sixteen times, she is too.

And, the number one thing that heterosexuals need to know about gay people is...

1. Relax, we don't want you

I thought it was cute.
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Old 03-21-2006, 08:13 PM   #41
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I read a few posts here and there in that thread and just had to walk away. I agree that there are people there who I am embarassed to be linked with in any way, as a straight person or as a Christian. The "because God intended it that way" argument infuriates me as well. How can any of us know what God intends? The God I believe in is one of love, I can't imagine that there is a problem with people LOVING, no matter who it is they choose to love. It baffles me that these people think a child is better off in the foster care system rather than in a stable and loving home that just so happens to have 2 moms or 2 dads.

As a straight person, I guess I feel like the best I can do is to speak out when I have the chance, to be a supportive voice to the GLBT community and MOST important, to make sure my sons grow up to be open minded and non-judgemental CSPs themselves. For them to know that to condem someone for who they chose to share their life or their bed with (or for the color of their skin or the building they sit in to worship...or not to worship etc) is just flat out wrong. It's not our job to judge. That's one thing I'm quite sure that God wants....for me to leave the judgement to him.
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Old 03-22-2006, 12:53 PM   #42
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I got pissed off when they used the term "Brokeback Liberals". So what, is calling someone a "Brokeback" anything the new insult?

I hate closed-minded bigots, but I guess we have to live with them.
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I got pissed off when they used the term "Brokeback Liberals". So what, is calling someone a "Brokeback" anything the new insult?
I didn't even see that! That's disgusting, but not surprising considering some of the other things I read on that thread. Has it been active today? I haven't noticed it yet.
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Old 03-22-2006, 01:30 PM   #44
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It was on another thread, by someone who was staunchly defending our President. So I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

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I didn't even see that! That's disgusting, but not surprising considering some of the other things I read on that thread. Has it been active today? I haven't noticed it yet.
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Old 03-22-2006, 08:29 PM   #45
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By the ways everyone, rather than complaining about that thread on the Community Board over here, go and visit it and post your own thoughts.

We all need to let others hear our voices. If we only talk amongst ourselves, what purpose would that serve? It might be cathartic to get things off our chest, but it would be better served by letting others see the ignorance in their closed minds.

On that note, I really really strongly urge you to do so but to do it by following the DIS rules, i.e. no name calling and nothing offensive.


I came across this thread last night while searching posts of a member who was being an absolute smart aleck to me in another thread that I never should have posted in (apparently).
I read thru it quickly, but it was enough to leave me seething with anger at the ignorance I continue to see everyday. Needless to say, I posted my opinion and hopefully I made sense in the process.

Not sure I can go back over there to read more of it.

I really liked the post I came to before reading the one quoted above. The poster talked about her "lifestyle" and the mundane things she does everyday. In other words, what does being gay have to do with your "lifestyle". I don't really think the fact that I'm straight describes MY lifestyle. Mine is much as the poster mentioned. I get up, talk with my DH. Together we spend time with our 2yo and maybe we go out for some lunch. Dh goes off to work, my older DD's get home, and I swing into full gear taking care o f 3 DD's by myself(the 2 older ones fight incessantly). THAT my dear, is a "lifestyle". I'm STILL lost as to who a person loves, or lives with, or dates is anyone else's business and why it matters enough to cause a huge debate.
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