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Old 02-11-2006, 05:08 PM   #1
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Remember the Big Red Boat?

Our very first cruise ever was on Premier's Big Red Boat. I know many of you remember this ship. It by no means compared to DCL's current ships (or anything else sailing out of Canaveral nowadays), but we have fond memories of our first venture into cruising. I remember how my wife and I scooted our 2 beds together, blocking the door to the tiny cabin. We had to move them back to get out in the morning. Anyway, we've been hooked on cruising ever since.

I got curious about what ever happened to the boat, and found it is sailing still in Spain. I saw it on the news a few years ago when it was actually seized during a cruise due to bankruptcy. They forced passengers off in Nassau, I believe, and they were abandoned there to find rooms and/or airfare. I always think of that when we encounter any "minor" disappointments while on vacation. Anyway, if you would like to see the Big Red Boat today (once again called Oceanic), check the link below.

http://www.pullmanturcruises.com/cru...t/oceanic.html
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Old 02-11-2006, 05:37 PM   #2
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Yep, my cousin always says, "Oh, we took our daughter on the Disney Cruise when she was small...we weren't that impressed." Pretty funny!


OP, I see you were on the innaugural Western...so were we!
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Old 02-12-2006, 01:37 PM   #3
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Thank you for the flash back. The Big Red boat was my first cruise in 1994. It had the looney tunes characters on it. I am going on my 4th Disney cruise in November. I have a picture of the Big Red boat in port next to the wonder in Nassau from our cruise in 2000. It looks like the little red dingy next to the Wonder. If I find the pic I will post it.
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We captured this picture of The Big Red Boat ll in Freeport in 2003. Amazing when you see it next to Wonder. Yes, funny when you tell people you're going on a Disney cruise and they still imagine you're going on the Big Red Boat.

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I was on the BIG RED BOAT three times. My youngest son was 12 now he 30, know I'm telling my age. Boy next to the Wonder it looks a big tug boat.
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Old 02-12-2006, 02:31 PM   #6
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We were on the Big Red Boat for our honeymoon back in 1990. We were on the Majestic in the Goombay Suite. Back then it was only about $1000 each to get a suite for 3 nights and 4 nights at the Poly. I know we had Chip & Dale on our cruise because we have a picture with the, but I cannot remember who else. I remember a while back the Majestic had a fire onboard, not sure what happened to her after that. I remember always tripping over the "step" of the framing around the bathroom door. But, we did have a double or queen size bed.

stephmarty, my parents went on the Oceanic back in 1980 or 1981, way before she was painted red and they loved the boat. Back then, you were allowed to go onto the boat to see people off, we had a big party in their room with many family members. They left out of NY for Bermuda. And they had BUNKS connected to the walls that they took the mattresses off at night and slept on the floor together! They also had 2 portholes in the room that opened. Things have really changed over the years.
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It's now docked in Freeport and is rusting away. We docked next to it last year.
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Yes it is hilarious. My best friends husband says that... yeah I went on the Disney Cruise on my first honeymoon...meaning the big red boat... I asked him if he was on the Magic or the Wonder and he just looked at me with this confused look...like I didn't know what I was talking about... We've been on the Magic 4 times now, which is nothing compared to many people but... there is just no comparing the two!!!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoangel
It looks like the little red dingy next to the Wonder.
Whenever we talk about the big red boat that is what we call it, the little red dingy..lol I use to have that on my siggy but was afraid I would offend someone

The big red boat was our first cruise expereince as well

I also have pics of it docked next to the Disney ship.

ETA: Darn I cant find the pic, I had a good one of both boats docked with the fronts ( backs??) next to each other for a really neat comparison
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We captured this picture of The Big Red Boat ll in Freeport in 2003. Amazing when you see it next to Wonder. Yes, funny when you tell people you're going on a Disney cruise and they still imagine you're going on the Big Red Boat.

The ship in this picture is the Big Red Boat 2, not the Big Red Boat. The current Big Red Boat is still cruising with Pulmantur as the OP stated. The ship in this picture is currently being broken up at the Alang Ship Breaking Yards in India.

Here is a pic that was taken just the other day of it.

http://www.maritimematters.com/shipnewspics.html
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Old 02-12-2006, 03:28 PM   #11
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The ship in this picture is the Big Red Boat 2, not the Big Red Boat.
Yup, that's just what I said.
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I understand thats what you said, but it seemed some others were confused.

I see you are in Mass, staying inside today? We probably have about 20 inches in SE Connecticut.
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Premier Cruise Line, founded in 1983, was the "official cruise line of Walt Disney World" before there was a Disney Cruise Line. Premier deserves credit for pioneering the WDW-land-and-sea packages, which are now offered on the Disney Wonder. Premier also deserves credit for establishing Port Canaveral as a significant cruise ship port.

Premier acquired or leased used ships such as the Premier Royale (built 1958), the Premier Oceanic (built 1965), the Premier Atlantic (built 1981), and the Premier Majestic (built 1972). With their hulls painted red, they earned the nickname, "The Big Red Boat." (Later, Premier actually named their ships The Big Red Boat I, The Big Red Boat II, and The Big Red Boat III and the "Big Red Boat" logo gave the line its identity.

When Disney saw how the WDW-land-and-sea packages caught on with the public, they allowed the marketing agreement with Premier to expire and announced their own cruise line.

Premier continued for a number of years. When the Disney tie-in ended, Premier turned to Warner Bros' Looney Tunes characters. Through a merger, Premier's fleet of older ships grew. But, although Premier tried to market their "classic" ships as a virtue, the line could not successfully compete with the new generation of 70 thousand GRT and larger ships operated by the major cruise lines. Premier folded in 2000.

Premier never ran the Disney Cruise Line, nor was Premier ever involved with the Disney Magic or the Disney Wonder.

Premier Cruise Line paid Disney to be "the Official Cruise Line of Walt Disney World," in the same way that Eastern Airlines (and later Delta Air Lines) paid to be "the Official Airline of Walt Disney World." Premier had a licensing agreement to have Disney characters onboard, and even offered nighttime tuck-ins of children by Disney characters.

Unlike the official airline, offical rental car, or official film of Walt Disney World, the public somehow saw the Premier Cruise Line cruises as being part of Disney. I remember people telling me, "We're cruising with Disney!"

There's an interesting article, Remembering Premier Cruise Line, by Lisa Plotnick.

The Oceanic is now operated by Pullmantur Cruises, a Spanish company. See http://www.pullmanturcruises.com/oceanic.html (the page loads slowly and is in Spanish)

Premier's original "Big Red Boat," the Royale, sank in 2000. At that time, it was named the SeaBreeze. See http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...22/ai_71821966
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Premier Cruise Line, founded in 1983, was the "official cruise line of Walt Disney World" before there was a Disney Cruise Line. Premier deserves credit for pioneering the WDW-land-and-sea packages, which are now offered on the Disney Wonder. Premier also deserves credit for establishing Port Canaveral as a significant cruise ship port.

Premier acquired or leased used ships such as the Premier Royale (built 1958), the Premier Oceanic (built 1965), the Premier Atlantic (built 1981), and the Premier Majestic (built 1972). With their hulls painted red, they earned the nickname, "The Big Red Boat." (Later, Premier actually named their ships The Big Red Boat I, The Big Red Boat II, and The Big Red Boat III and the "Big Red Boat" logo gave the line its identity.

When Disney saw how the WDW-land-and-sea packages caught on with the public, they allowed the marketing agreement with Premier to expire and announced their own cruise line.

Premier continued for a number of years. When the Disney tie-in ended, Premier turned to Warner Bros' Looney Tunes characters. Through a merger, Premier's fleet of older ships grew. But, although Premier tried to market their "classic" ships as a virtue, the line could not successfully compete with the new generation of 70 thousand GRT and larger ships operated by the major cruise lines. Premier folded in 2000.

Premier never ran the Disney Cruise Line, nor was Premier ever involved with the Disney Magic or the Disney Wonder.

Premier Cruise Line paid Disney to be "the Official Cruise Line of Walt Disney World," in the same way that Eastern Airlines (and later Delta Air Lines) paid to be "the Official Airline of Walt Disney World." Premier had a licensing agreement to have Disney characters onboard, and even offered nighttime tuck-ins of children by Disney characters.

Unlike the official airline, offical rental car, or official film of Walt Disney World, the public somehow saw the Premier Cruise Line cruises as being part of Disney. I remember people telling me, "We're cruising with Disney!"

There's an interesting article, Remembering Premier Cruise Line, by Lisa Plotnick.

The Oceanic is now operated by Pullmantur Cruises, a Spanish company. See http://www.pullmanturcruises.com/oceanic.html (the page loads slowly and is in Spanish)

Premier's original "Big Red Boat," the Royale, sank in 2000. At that time, it was named the SeaBreeze. See http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...22/ai_71821966
Thank you for this summary--very informative.
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