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Old 09-21-2012, 07:34 AM   #2416
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Why are you disappointed Frank won American's vote? I'm just curious. IMO he deserved it. He was on the block constantly and fought hard in competitions to save himself, which for me, is more deserving than someone who just flys under the radar. But that's just me. I'd like to hear your opinion. Maybe I'm missing something.
I think you need to ask why he was on the block so often. It wasn't always because he was such a threat. Shane was too, but he wasn't put up that way. The guy was smug, arrogant and had a bit of an entitlement issue. He turned people off and they didn't trust him. You can argue that this is just bad gameplay.

I still don't buy that he won AF fair and square. I know Dan and Ian were not eligible but I still find it hard to believe.

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Just a thought... If Dan did win the final HOH, and took Dani with him... He would be regarded as THE BEST player ever! A coach taking his player to the end, he would have won even if he came in second. But, I really think he knew Ian deserved to be in the final 2.
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The interviews are showing that Dan had no chance against anyone for 2 reasons. First that the jury was just plain bitter, I mean REALLY bitter. Secondly, many just weren't going to vote for him because he was a previous winner. He had won before and they felt it was someone else's turn.

Also, he and Ian were convinced that Dani had too many votes in jury and would beat both of them. I know Ian is saying he did it out of his "deal" but the deal came about b/c they each thought they couldn't beat Dani. It doesn't seem like it was anything more than self preservations not some kind of altruistic decision. It wasn't until after they were out that they learned jurors had such issues with Dani.


I love this show. It is such a great social experiment. And the fact that you have live feeds and don't have to fall for the show editing makes it all the better!
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Old 09-21-2012, 08:22 AM   #2417
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You didn't ask me but I will give you my opinion anyway. Frank is whiney little punk that crawled so far up Boogie's butt that I'm surprised Mike didn't choke. He did win a lot of competitions but he was also one of the dumbest players in the house this summer.

Winning competitions is not enough for me when everything else about him is so negative.


He was also one of the first to fall for Dan's line of bull.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:51 PM   #2418
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Dan has what the houseguests called "the mist". They knew Dan could talk anybody in to doing anything, yet they still kept him in the game.

Just like Wil said - "You fell for the lies, be mad at yourself".

Not so different from Dr. Will.
What are you arguing here? You keep trying to convince me of how great Dan was. He wasn't, he lost. Where is the confusion here?
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Old 09-22-2012, 02:04 AM   #2419
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No more after dark????? You mean the cameras don't follow them home to keep us busy until next summer??

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Old 09-22-2012, 06:37 AM   #2420
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Danielle's face was funny when Frank won America's player.

She really thought she had it in the bag.

I heard she made some kind of comment that she was the "Jordan" of this season!....... UMMMMMMMM......... not even close my dear.
During the final 3, Danielle would go around the house asking Ian and Dan which past houseguest she reminded them of. They would tell her that she is a "cross between Jordan and Daniele Donato". They also would say that she and Shane were the "Jeff and Jordan" of the season and America must love them. She really thought the favorite was going to be her or Shane. Of course, I would have preferred that to Frank.
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