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Old 06-15-2013, 07:04 AM   #16
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I find that she fails in her books because she is writing from to much of a modern slant (plus she really isn't very accurate at all). She has taken rumours that even in these times where proved wrong to write modern books. In the film the other boleyn girl her sister begs for her life. Mary didn't nor would she have done anything that stupid as her neck would have been next.


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As I said in my post, Gregory writes historical fiction. She takes basic facts about a specific era and she puts her own slant on them to create her version of fictional drama and intrigue. I never, ever took her tales as truth. However, I do believe that she bases her dramas in historical fact and a lot of the stuff is true. What isn't true is the thoughts and motivations of the characters. My point being that there was incest going on back then. It's not shocking and it's not made up. Whether that particular incest was going on between The White Princess and her uncle, may or not be true, however, I do believe that incest amongst the upper class was fairly rampant. Gregory knows that and she throws that bit of "trash" into the storyline for her books, whether or not those things really happened, we don't know.

My impression from your first post is that you didn't think that it really happened and that Gregory is just throwing an incest twist in to make the story more juicy? I just think that she's exaggerating something that happened frequently enough back then.

I don't know--I guess I can't see stopping myself from reading a story that might interest me because I was "icked" out by the incest thing. You seem interested in the story, so read it. Different strokes though and all that.
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Old 06-15-2013, 09:58 AM   #17
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Phillipa Gregory is one of my favorites too. The White Princess will be released next month. I can't wait!

Ah, thanks, I will look for it! I still have not read the Kingmakers Daughter (if that is the right name?) saving that for our long drive to DL in a couple months! will have to look for this new one in the US books are so much cheaper there.
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Old 06-15-2013, 01:31 PM   #18
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Phillips Gregory is NOT known for her accuracy. She is quite the joke among true historical fiction writers/fans such as Sharon Penman and Elizabeth Chadwick. PG has her place, but read with a huge grain of salt. I often hope her books will spur people to learn about the real people and the real events of the middle ages. . Fun reads, unless a mockery the truth irritates you.
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Phillips Gregory is NOT known for her accuracy. She is quite the joke among true historical fiction writers/fans such as Sharon Penman and Elizabeth Chadwick. PG has her place, but read with a huge grain of salt. I often hope her books will spur people to learn about the real people and the real events of the middle ages. . Fun reads, unless a mockery the truth irritates you.
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Old 06-17-2013, 11:32 PM   #20
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I majored in history and did extensive research on the War of the Roses.

What Gregory does is mix fact, rumor and her own imagination to create a story.

Fact. Priness Elizabeth once showed up at the court of her uncle, Richard III, wearing the same attire as her aunt, Queen Anne. Anne was feable and ill, and Elizabeth was young and healthy.

Rumor: After Anne died Richard wanted to solidify his hold on the throne by marrying his brother's daughter, despite having had her declared illegitimate.

Fantasy: Richard and Elizabeth were lovers.

I do like her books, they make the period come alive, but historical accuracy isn't necessarily there.
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:54 AM   #21
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No worse than Greek mythology! I love Philippa and would read any of her books!
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Old 06-18-2013, 08:24 AM   #22
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I have read books that contain war, slavery, child abuse, murder, rape etc. etc. If that stuff isn't "icky" I don't know what is! Certainly does not mean I think these things are okay just because I'm reading the book.

But I guess everyone has their topic that just rubs them the wrong way.
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No worse than Greek mythology! I love Philippa and would read any of her books!
Sorry, I don't understand the Greek mythology reference.
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Sorry, I don't understand the Greek mythology reference.
Zeus and Hera were brother and sister as well as husband and wife. And that's just one example.
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Zeus and Hera were brother and sister as well as husband and wife. And that's just one example.
Thanks, I missed the post to which it referred.
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