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Old 04-21-2014, 07:39 PM   #16
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If you bought passes, then yes, TIW will probably be worth it. There are some quick service restaurants that take it as well. We wouldn't have used it on our upcoming eight day trip, but once we added five more days next April, the math worked in our favor. I have Mouseperks.com saved on my phone. Quick listing that will show which discounts will give you the best value at every restaurant. Helpful since we'll have our DVC Discount, Disney Rewards Visa Discount, and TIW on top of all of it.
Well thank you for your input and the heads up on the mouseperks.com I will have to check it out, and thank you to everyone else who has contributed to my question!
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Old 04-22-2014, 07:43 AM   #17
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One other question, is there anyone who still thinks that the dining plan is an option when you can get these discounts?
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Old 04-22-2014, 08:29 AM   #18
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One other question, is there anyone who still thinks that the dining plan is an option when you can get these discounts?
Yes, sometimes! I compare our OOP w TIW + Tax + 18% tip to DDP + 18% tip on full priced meal.

For our upcoming trip, I will save about $32 using DxDDP over TIW, on just meals alone. That means the mugs and snacks are free.

It works if you have expensive character breakfasts and signature or non-buffet TS, and you typically order the more expensive items on the menu. If we drink or order extras, then I can use our TIW on that portion of the bill. It also helps if you have a full first day and a full last day to use the dining credits.

The regular plan is usually a loss and QS plan is only breakeven, but I consider it worth it for less hassle.
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Old 04-22-2014, 08:56 AM   #19
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Does anyone have a list of places that offer the AP or DVC discounts?? I had planned on buying a TIW card for our next trip, but never even thought of using the AP/DVC discount for the 10-15%.

I just want to be sure enough places offer those discounts, so I don't have to buy the TIW
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Old 04-22-2014, 09:10 AM   #20
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Does anyone have a list of places that offer the AP or DVC discounts?? I had planned on buying a TIW card for our next trip, but never even thought of using the AP/DVC discount for the 10-15%. I just want to be sure enough places offer those discounts, so I don't have to buy the TIW
The mouseperks.com website that was quoted earlier, was a good site that showed who accepts what.
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Old 04-22-2014, 09:11 AM   #21
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As PPs said mouse perks.com has a great breakdown of discounts,also all ears has discounts on the menu page.
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Old 04-22-2014, 12:36 PM   #22
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One other question, is there anyone who still thinks that the dining plan is an option when you can get these discounts?
The problem I have with the dining plans is that you basically need to talk yourself into dining at the MOST EXPENSIVE restaurants and eating the MOST EXPENSIVE entrees in order to justify the cost. And you need to factor in the dessert with every meal. (If not for the dining plan, who in the world eats 2 desserts every day of their life?!?!)

If you're spending $60 (!!!) per person, per night for the dining plan, you simply cannot use one of your Table Service meal credits toward a $12 traditional breakfast platter at Olivia's or Kouzzina. If you do that, by the time you add-in the $5 snack and $15 counter service meal, you've spent $60 to consume less than $40 worth of food.

Instead you are pretty much obligated to use your credits toward things like the $40 3-course Prix Fixe menu (with Creme Brûlée) at Chefs de France or the $35 steak at Whispering Canyon.

There was a time when the DDP was priced such that you could still use table service credits for cheaper items or meals like breakfast, or skip the desserts, and still come out ahead. But rarely is that the case anymore.

These days Disney Obesity Plan might be a better name.
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Old 04-22-2014, 01:01 PM   #23
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The # of discounts have expanded quite significantly as of late. We just made 4 reservations for an upcoming trip and 3 of the 4 have a 10-15% DVC discount. The 4th ('Ohana) does not.

That diminishes the value of the TIW card for sure. Unless you want to take advantage of the special events or eat at Disney a lot, it's hard to justify any of the "special" programs.

I agree with the above. The DDP is great for convenience ant that's about it. Unless you eat a lot and are a foodie.

The 18% gratuity added to TIW purchases is a detractor if you do any of the buffets. I'm not cheap by any means, but I really can't justify an 18% tip on a buffet.
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Old 04-22-2014, 03:17 PM   #24
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The 18% gratuity added to TIW purchases is a detractor if you do any of the buffets. I'm not cheap by any means, but I really can't justify an 18% tip on a buffet.
I often feel the opposite. Why would you tip more at a TS than a buffet? It's not like the waiter is cooking the food. They order and bring it to your table. That's only part of their job. They also take plates away, bring drinks, anything else you might need. If anything, we use more plates at a buffet

And what about the AYCTE family style dining like Ohana's? Is that considered a buffet with regards to tipping?

TIW still comes out better w the 18% tip on buffets. A $100 bill becomes $80. Add in 18% tip and 6.5% tax is $19.60. Total bill ($99.60) is still less than the original, though the breakeven would take a lot more meals. It's really meant for locals and AP holders who dine frequently.

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(If not for the dining plan, who in the world eats 2 desserts every day of their life?!?!)
Me, me, me! But only on a Disney vacation where I know I'll walk off the extra calories.
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I often feel the opposite. Why would you tip more at a TS than a buffet? It's not like the waiter is cooking the food. They order and bring it to your table. That's only part of their job. They also take plates away, bring drinks, anything else you might need. If anything, we use more plates at a buffet
Miss Manners would agree with you:

"Miss Manners would dearly love to help you save a buck, but...tip [buffet wait staff] as you would the help in an ordinary restaurant.

If it is so much work for you to fill your dinner plate yourself, why do you go back and do it so often? Miss Manners saw you."

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Me, me, me! But only on a Disney vacation where I know I'll walk off the extra calories.
That's a common sentiment (even my wife has used it) but it's probably not true--particularly for DDP buyers eating those desserts and snacks.

If you walked an aggressive 12 miles per day at 3 mph (which represents 4 total hours of nothing but walking at a moderate pace), you'd only burn about 1200 calories.

To compare, 4 hours of office work burns about 400-600 calories. An individual with a desk job isn't burning calories at a markedly higher rate on their vacation strolls through the Disney parks. Those who are on their feet all day for work (healthcare workers, waiter/waitress, retail, etc) may not burn any added calories in the parks.

Unless your diet already consists of 1/3 lb bacon cheeseburgers, frequent buffet visits and other entrees in Disney-sized portions, the walking probably isn't enough to compensate for the added caloric intake.
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Old 04-22-2014, 06:33 PM   #27
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I see Mama Melrose on the list of TIW discounts…does anyone know if this includes the F! dining package?
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I see Mama Melrose on the list of TIW discounts…does anyone know if this includes the F! dining package?
I don't think it does.
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You'd think Miss Manners would have a thing against liars.
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I see Mama Melrose on the list of TIW discounts…does anyone know if this includes the F! dining package?
The Tables in Wonderland site says that it's not valid for the Fantasmic! Dining Package.
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