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Old 08-14-2013, 08:52 AM   #16
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I'm not sure having children front and center in costume is going to help your chances.

7 PM is the cutoff time where only party guests are admitted. It is entirely possible they won't seat you. Disney dining phone reps are often totally inaccurate. Just ask anyone who tried to book Food & Wine events yesterday.
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:04 AM   #17
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No really, you need to change your plans. The Mom's Panel is one of the worst places to go for accurate info. Disney does not even monitor what the mom's post for accuracy!

You won't be allowed an ADR that is 7 pm or later, it is not even a question! Do you really want to celebrate your twins birthday being turned away? How will they feel front and center, all dressed up, and being told, sorry but the rule is you must have a party ticket to start any even in the Magic Kingdom at 7 pm?

You are not the first one to attempt what you are planning. It won't work. You are really going to have one huge disaster on your hands. Please, for the sake of your vacation, change your ADR time.
In 2011 I had a 7:05pm ADR for CRT on a MNSSHP night. I arrived 15 minutes beforehand (as recommended), had no trouble getting in. After our meal, we were escorted to the entrance. This year, I have a 6:50pm BOG on a MNSSHP night as well. That being said, I would try for an ADR before 7 if possible just in case they have changed the policy on this.
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:11 AM   #18
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I agree with others, I really think you need to change your time. Here is what happened to us last year at CP.

We had an ADR at 6:45. Got there at 6:30 and checked in. We did not have party tickets. We waited on one of the benches beside the podium. At 6:50 we were still not seated and a family came up to the podium to check in for their 7:00 ADR..without party tickets. The CM told them they would not be seated unless they had party tickets in hand. They argued that they were "checking in" before 7, so they should still be seated. She explained that their ADR was for 7pm and that any ADR from 7:00 on would require a party ticket. They continued to argue and the podium CM went and got a manager. The manager came out and explained the same thing to them a few times and apologized but stated those were the rules and the disclaimer was on the ADR. At that time our name was called and we were walked in for our ADR at 6:55. We looked around for that family but did not see them in the restaurant at all. I am assuming they were not allowed in.

So I would try to change your time. I would hate for your kids to be disappointed when you aren't allowed in.
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:03 AM   #19
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While I understand the need for enforcement in regard to the party, it seems crazy that literally one minute makes a difference. Even from 7:01pm, they can turn guests away but I think if someone makes a reservation at exactly 7pm, I don't see the big deal with you can be admitted with a 6:55pm reservation.

We are headed out of the parks for Chef Mickey instead on the night we're not attending the party


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I agree with others, I really think you need to change your time. Here is what happened to us last year at CP.

We had an ADR at 6:45. Got there at 6:30 and checked in. We did not have party tickets. We waited on one of the benches beside the podium. At 6:50 we were still not seated and a family came up to the podium to check in for their 7:00 ADR..without party tickets. The CM told them they would not be seated unless they had party tickets in hand. They argued that they were "checking in" before 7, so they should still be seated. She explained that their ADR was for 7pm and that any ADR from 7:00 on would require a party ticket. They continued to argue and the podium CM went and got a manager. The manager came out and explained the same thing to them a few times and apologized but stated those were the rules and the disclaimer was on the ADR. At that time our name was called and we were walked in for our ADR at 6:55. We looked around for that family but did not see them in the restaurant at all. I am assuming they were not allowed in.

So I would try to change your time. I would hate for your kids to be disappointed when you aren't allowed in.
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:21 AM   #20
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well, unless unexpectedly an earlier reservation opens and makes this moot, I guess I'll have to be a guinea pig on this one for the board....planning on getting to BOG early to avoid closing issues, will have already ordered birthday cake for my Twins' birthday celebration at BOG, will have our purchased MNSSHP tix for another nite in hand with the print out from the Mom's Panel and my already prepared speech about being worried about this but getting the ok twice now on the phone from Disney dining reps, all the while with our now 6 year old twins in BBB costumes front and center....good or bad, I'll post the outcome for future generations of MSSSHP'ers to learn from....
If they seat you then they would have to do it for everyone. Its really not fair to the other people that paid that night. You get turned away and then no one gets that reservation even if some other family wanted it and had a ticket. Bottom line is that rules are rules. Why would you set your kids up for this huge disappointment and teach them to try and manipulate rules that are set in place, confused......
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:27 AM   #21
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While I understand the need for enforcement in regard to the party, it seems crazy that literally one minute makes a difference. Even from 7:01pm, they can turn guests away but I think if someone makes a reservation at exactly 7pm, I don't see the big deal with you can be admitted with a 6:55pm reservation.

We are headed out of the parks for Chef Mickey instead on the night we're not attending the party
Well... what time WOULD make a difference? It is better to have a hard and set rule (7:00PM) then to let it be flexible. 7:00PM is when the party starts and MK is no longer open for anyone without a ticket. You can't take advantage of the stuff, including dining, in a park that is "closed". It makes no other sense then to restrict non party goer reservations to BEFORE the park "closes" to those people.
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I think my post was fairly clear. I personally don't see an issue with a reservation at 7pm, 7:05pm is too late. Since the table services don't do anything extra for the parties, I don't see an issue with it personally.

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Well... what time WOULD make a difference? It is better to have a hard and set rule (7:00PM) then to let it be flexible. 7:00PM is when the party starts and MK is no longer open for anyone without a ticket. You can't take advantage of the stuff, including dining, in a park that is "closed". It makes no other sense then to restrict non party goer reservations to BEFORE the park "closes" to those people.
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:57 AM   #23
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If they seat you then they would have to do it for everyone. Its really not fair to the other people that paid that night. You get turned away and then no one gets that reservation even if some other family wanted it and had a ticket. Bottom line is that rules are rules. Why would you set your kids up for this huge disappointment and teach them to try and manipulate rules that are set in place, confused......
She wasn't trying to "manipulate" the rules - when she made the reservation, she was under the impression she could get into the reservation after getting information from another Disney Site.
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Old 08-27-2013, 04:52 PM   #24
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While I understand the need for enforcement in regard to the party, it seems crazy that literally one minute makes a difference. Even from 7:01pm, they can turn guests away but I think if someone makes a reservation at exactly 7pm, I don't see the big deal with you can be admitted with a 6:55pm reservation.

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I think my post was fairly clear. I personally don't see an issue with a reservation at 7pm, 7:05pm is too late. Since the table services don't do anything extra for the parties, I don't see an issue with it personally.
I went to the reservation page and with a 7:00 reservation it does say that this res occurs during a special event that requires a separate ticket. Disney chose 7:00 and not 7:01 so that one minute does make a difference. Ultimately it doesn't matter what any of us feels about it, Disney sets the policy.
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I think my post was fairly clear. I personally don't see an issue with a reservation at 7pm, 7:05pm is too late. Since the table services don't do anything extra for the parties, I don't see an issue with it personally.
7:00 is when the part starts. That is why you cannot make an ADR for that time. 6:59 would be ok, 7:00 is not. The park is then closed to day guests, which is why someone cannot make an ADR for that time. They are trying to enter a closed park without the proper admission. That is Disney's line in the sand.
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She wasn't trying to "manipulate" the rules - when she made the reservation, she was under the impression she could get into the reservation after getting information from another Disney Site.
Thats fine when she made the original reservation and that stinks but now we all know you can't get in at 7:00 or after. So if that is when the reservation is for then why would you show up with print outs and kids in tow and ready for an argument? Isn't that what she posted, confused...
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I went to the reservation page and with a 7:00 reservation it does say that this res occurs during a special event that requires a separate ticket. Disney chose 7:00 and not 7:01 so that one minute does make a difference. Ultimately it doesn't matter what any of us feels about it, Disney sets the policy.
I'm not sure if the OP made the reservation online, over the phone, through a travel agent. My post was just my opinion that I don't see the different 1 minute makes and I still don't. This is coming from someone who is attending both MNSSHP and MVMCP, and I don't care if people want to eat in the restaurants while the party is going on. Disney allow this. A reservation past 7pm isn't right but right at 7pm, I don't see the big deal


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7:00 is when the part starts. That is why you cannot make an ADR for that time. 6:59 would be ok, 7:00 is not. The park is then closed to day guests, which is why someone cannot make an ADR for that time. They are trying to enter a closed park without the proper admission. That is Disney's line in the sand.
Fair enough but I'm still entitled to my opinion that I think it would be fair for guests to be able to have a reservation at 7pm - I clearly stated in my original post that 7:01pm wasn't acceptable. But 7pm is right at closing and most people check in 10-15 minutes before their reservation anyway.


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Thats fine when she made the original reservation and that stinks but now we all know you can't get in at 7:00 or after. So if that is when the reservation is for then why would you show up with print outs and kids in tow and ready for an argument? Isn't that what she posted, confused...
That isn't how I read her posts. She was told by someone she thought was "official" - The Disney Moms that a 7pm reservation would be fine. She's in a position where she probably can't get another reservation to celebrate her childrens birthday.


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Old 11-24-2013, 02:48 PM   #28
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sorry I didn't post this earlier, but will post now for future folks with same question in 2014 and beyond.....we had no problems with our 7PM reservation at Be Our Guest on the MNSSHP nite despite not having tix to MNSSHP. As suggested, we arrived at Be Our Guest early - 6:45ish - and had no problems. After dinner ended at roughly 8:30, a Disney person walked us out of the park with a sign of some sort. I will note that on another MNSSHP night, I was walking on Main Street w/o my wristband to meet my wife who had our wristbands right at 7PM and I was stopped by a cast member who didn't want to let me back into the park area without a wristband until I explained where I was headed and her supervisor said it was ok.....so my individual experience seems to indicate that the reservation was fine without MNSSHP tickets, but you need to be there early enough to avoid unnecessary entanglements and you'll be escorted out of the park post-dinner...which is exactly what we hoped would happen and exactly what we were told multiple times on the phone by Disney reps and was told by a Mom's Panel person....hope this helps....
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