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Old 11-10-2013, 12:40 AM   #106
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Wow, some of you dis'ers have a wild imagination. Saying the OP doesn't appreciate having a job and being able to take a vacation. Saying the people on here are "trying to make other people stay away from Disney" Where on earth do people dream this stuff up?
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Old 11-10-2013, 01:02 AM   #107
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1. We have had a rough year. A lot of the stress has come from uncertainty and waiting for the other shoe to drop regarding things non-Disney. We needed a low stress vacation and WDW (while an active and busy vacation) usually fits that bill.

2. We are a repeat headliner family. We arrive early, pull at least 6-8 FP a day and stay late. The changes (tiered FP at Epcot) and as of today, what appears to be an end to double dipping, mean we would be limited to 3 FP a day and that is a big step down for us.

I realize FP+ will be a great thing for SOME people, based on their touring style. For us, it was sizing up to be an expensive hot mess. I told them when we canceled that we were waiting until the dust settled to see if we'd be back again. Until then, we may hit Universal again or even Disneyland.

Oh well..............
For those two reasons above you probably did the right thing op. We are just the opposite, get there early, leave midday and come back later. Maybe pull three fast passes all day. As much as I love Disney rides, it's just no huge deal if I miss some on a given trip.... in fact we always do. So this whole FP+ thing is just not a big deal. Of course I'm not going until next June so things will be a lot more "settled" by then. US/IOA as alternate plan sounds like a good plan. Lots of fun for everyone!!
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Old 11-10-2013, 03:13 AM   #108
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I for one do not pity or feel sorry for the poster of this thread. She made a voluntary decision to forego a trip to Disney World. There are so many people I know that wish they can go to WDW just once and are unable to do so. I just cannot sympathize with people who are complaining about FP+ for the reason that it changes their ordinary touring plan. If they choose not to go, so be it. It's their right to go or not go, but my sympathy they will not get.

This comment does not mean I am calling her names, putting her down, or even that I am an inconsiderate person (I assume you I am not). She posted her decision on an open forum, so I presume she is welcome to receiving comments.
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Old 11-10-2013, 07:45 AM   #109
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I think all these FP+ complaints are a little comical. One says it takes too much planning, the next says it affects all our extensive planning. Some seem to think it gives special treatment to people who don't get there at rope drop, some it's not enough FPs, others it gives away too many FPs. Some are assuming they are taking away the FP-, although I don't see how they can for the day visitors. Sounds like most are just looking for an excuse to complain. The OP obviously has serious personal problems in their life. I'm sorry to hear that as we have had some things pop up that may affect our trip in three weeks as well, but sometimes you have to roll with the punches. If not being assured of getting 8 fast passes a day (which sounds a bit exaggerated but I'm not a commando) is reason enough to not go, then I guess you are making the right decision. But I will say, I have talked to several people already who don't go to Disney because of the lines and like implementation of the new FP+ system. Knowing they don't have to be there at rope drop makes Disney a more inviting destination they are more likely to visit. Folks like those are likely to be replacing those who back out because of it. So if you think you are stickin' it to Disney by canceling, I think Disney will be just fine without you. The resorts, high demand restaurants and high demand attractions are all booked solid. All those surveys Disney does surely addressed this before they spent a billion dollars putting it into use so obviously, a lot of somebody's liked the idea.
We'll be there in three weeks. The vast majority of posters who have already experienced the changes have had a positive response. I expect we will as well. But that's the difference between me and the OP. Everyone is different but I choose to see the glass as half full where as the OP seems to see it half empty.
Truly hope things improve in your life as I hope my own trials pass smoothly. With time, Disney will get it right for the masses. Not everybody will be happy but then again, they never are.

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Old 11-10-2013, 07:46 AM   #110
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Old 11-10-2013, 08:06 AM   #111
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I suspect that these posters are hoping to influence others on the Boards to stay away from WDW. We were at WDW two weeks ago and I must admit that I was apprehensive after reading the negative posts. I'm glad that I didn't stress out too much about it because our trip using MBs and FP+ was fine. We are getting ready to book another trip and are looking forward to using the new system again.
Totally agree. I don't get all of the angst and teeth gnashing going on regarding Fastpass+. We got back about a week ago and everything worked fine. Sure, you can't ride Tower of Terror 12 times in a row now, but WDW is a big place. Try something new, stop and smell the roses, have a Dole Whip...

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Old 11-10-2013, 08:19 AM   #112
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I think all these FP+ complaints are a little comical. One says it takes too much planning, the next says it affects all our extensive planning. Some seem to think it gives special treatment to people who don't get there at rope drop, some it's not enough FPs, others it gives away too many FPs. Some are assuming they are taking away the FP-, although I don't see how they can for the day visitors. Sounds like most are just looking for an excuse to complain. The OP obviously has serious personal problems in their life. I'm sorry to hear that as we have had some things pop up that may affect our trip in three weeks as well, but sometimes you have to roll with the punches. If not being assured of getting 8 fast passes a day (which sounds a bit exaggerated but I'm not a commando) is reason enough to not go, then I guess you are making the right decision. But I will say, I have talked to several people already who don't go to Disney because of the lines and like implementation of the new FP+ system. Knowing they don't have to be there at rope drop makes Disney a more inviting destination they are more likely to visit. Folks like those are likely to be replacing those who back out because of it. So if you think you are stickin' it to Disney by canceling, I think Disney will be just fine without you. The resorts, high demand restaurants and high demand attractions are all booked solid. All those surveys Disney does surely addressed this before they spent a billion dollars putting it into use so obviously, a lot of somebody's liked the idea.
We'll be there in three weeks. The vast majority of posters who have already experienced the changes have had a positive response. I expect we will as well. But that's the difference between me and the OP. Everyone is different but I choose to see the glass as half full where as the OP seems to see it half empty.
Truly hope things improve in your life as I hope my own trials pass smoothly. With time, Disney will get it right for the masses. Not everybody will be happy but then again, they never are.

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There is a possibility that most of the fastpasses will be pulled up to 30 days or more in advance. So when somebody leaves for a trip and gets to the park they will find out that all FP+ were taken by other people. The battle for fastpasses will move from early morning on park day to early morning remotely via computer weeks in advance. And Disney's goal will be to fill every ride in advance. What until the marketing campaign starts.

Currently, off site guests have no access to the system. Disney has said they do not plan on holding back any fastpasses for the day of. Regular fastpass will go away. We know all of this.

This Is a good reason for people to worry about their trips in the future. People aren't guaranteed even one headliner (unless tiering is used in all parks). I think there is enough uncertainty to bail and wait and see.

It won't be as big of a deal in non peak times. But during peak, it could be very limiting if you don't in book in advance.
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Old 11-10-2013, 08:26 AM   #113
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Clearly some completely missed what the OP was saying.

She isn't cancelling her trip because she thinks FP+ is an abomination or unfair etc, and she's never going to WDW again (foot stomp!). She's cancelling because the test is still ongoing and the parameters of the test are changing so often and without much notice that she's unable to plan her trip with any confidence.

I don't blame her. And unlike the unsympathetic folks who've chimed in,for no other reason than wagging a finger at her, I AM sorry that it has to be that way for her. My trip isn't until next fall and I am super thankful for that as things are so up in the air right now with FP+ and MDE.
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Old 11-10-2013, 08:28 AM   #114
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We were at WDW two weeks ago and I must admit that I was apprehensive after reading the negative posts. I'm glad that I didn't stress out too much about it because our trip using MBs and FP+ was fine. We are getting ready to book another trip and are looking forward to using the new system again.
I agree as well. I was apprehensive, too, and we had a great trip. I can't wait to go back.

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Old 11-10-2013, 08:29 AM   #115
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I think all these FP+ complaints are a little comical. One says it takes too much planning, the next says it affects all our extensive planning. Some seem to think it gives special treatment to people who don't get there at rope drop, some it's not enough FPs, others it gives away too many FPs. Some are assuming they are taking away the FP-, although I don't see how they can for the day visitors. Sounds like most are just looking for an excuse to complain. The OP obviously has serious personal problems in their life. I'm sorry to hear that as we have had some things pop up that may affect our trip in three weeks as well, but sometimes you have to roll with the punches. If not being assured of getting 8 fast passes a day (which sounds a bit exaggerated but I'm not a commando) is reason enough to not go, then I guess you are making the right decision. But I will say, I have talked to several people already who don't go to Disney because of the lines and like implementation of the new FP+ system. Knowing they don't have to be there at rope drop makes Disney a more inviting destination they are more likely to visit. Folks like those are likely to be replacing those who back out because of it. So if you think you are stickin' it to Disney by canceling, I think Disney will be just fine without you. The resorts, high demand restaurants and high demand attractions are all booked solid. All those surveys Disney does surely addressed this before they spent a billion dollars putting it into use so obviously, a lot of somebody's liked the idea.
We'll be there in three weeks. The vast majority of posters who have already experienced the changes have had a positive response. I expect we will as well. But that's the difference between me and the OP. Everyone is different but I choose to see the glass as half full where as the OP seems to see it half empty.
Truly hope things improve in your life as I hope my own trials pass smoothly. With time, Disney will get it right for the masses. Not everybody will be happy but then again, they never are.

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I don't think anyone thinks or are trying to stick it to Disney, they just are stressed out by the uncertainty. Fact is no one knows what the final system is going to look like. This time next year this will probably be a non issue,but until then I can understand why people are cancelling or delaying trips. Good luck in 3 wks hope everything works out for you and your family.
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There is a possibility that most of the fastpasses will be poked up 30 days or more in advance. So when somebody leaves for a trip and gets to the park they will find out that all FP+ were taken by other people. The battle for fastpasses will move from early morning on park day to early morning remotely via computer weeks in advance. And Disney's goal will be to fill every ride in advance. What until the marketing campaign starts. Currently, off site guests have no access to the system. Disney has said they do not plan on holding back any fastpasses for the day of. Regular fastpass will go away. We know all of this. This Is a good reason for people to worry about their trips in the future. People aren't guaranteed even on headliner (unless tiering is used in all parks). I think there is enough uncertainty to bail and wait and see. It won't be as big of a deal in non peak times. But during peak, it could be very limiting if you don't in advance.
Although you point out relevant future concerns for the FP+ change, this wasn't what caused the OP to cancel. Nearly all the concerns in your post have nothing to do with trips coming up during the test. Of course the uncertainty if future test changes (OP's trip canceling reason) is 100% legit, but the FP+ and FP- issues don't seem to really be impacting visitors (currently during the test) to the tune of your concerns above.

We arrive after T-Day. I am optimistic that my knowledge if the test and my planning will make it just as magical as ever.
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Ok, that, was funny.
Thanks for noticing. Didn't think anybody would catch that two worder with all the 5-6 paragraph FP+ rants going on.

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Old 11-10-2013, 08:34 AM   #118
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I completely understand the OP's reasoning. If planning the vacation is too stressful, then don't go. It's a vacation, not an obligation!

What I'm confused about is what purpose a "I'm taking my ball and going home," thread has on a board about Theme Park Attractions and Strategies. I could see it belonging in Theme Parks Community, as it's always nice to connect with your friends online and let them know what's current in your life.

But a strategy board?

I'm imagining someone wandering over here thinking, "Oh, a theme park touring strategy board. How lovely. They'll help me plan my vacation!"

Only to be greeted with, "This is why I'm (edited for accuracy) cancelling my trip and not going to Disney, until possibly later, maybe."

Basically the newest "strategy" on these boards? "Don't go!"


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Old 11-10-2013, 08:35 AM   #119
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Totally agree. I don't get all of the angst and teeth gnashing going on regarding Fastpass+. We got back about a week ago and everything worked fine. Sure, you can't ride Tower of Terror 12 times in a row now, but WDW is a big place. Try something new, stop and smell the roses, have a Dole Whip...

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My teenagers don't like this plan. It works for me pretty well, but not them.
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I completely understand the OP's reasoning. If planning the vacation is too stressful, then don't go. It's a vacation, not an obligation!

What I'm confused about is what purpose a "I'm taking my ball and going home," thread has on a board about Theme Park Attractions and Strategies. I could see it belonging in Theme Parks Community, as it's always nice to connect with your friends online and let them know what's current in your life.

But a strategy board?

I'm imagining someone wandering over here thinking, "Oh, a theme park touring strategy board. How lovely. They'll help me plan my vacation!"

Only to be greeted with, "This is why I'm NEVER GOING TO WDW AGAIN!"

The newest "strategy" on these boards? "Don't go!"

Perhaps you could point out where in the OP it says this? I missed it. Or where anyone else in the thread has said this? #hyperbole
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