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Old 11-01-2013, 09:24 AM   #106
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I hope that was supposed to be a joke?
Nope. Common sense.. FP+ and FP- use the same pool.. less chances to reserve FP+ on one headliner means more chances using FP-.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:24 AM   #107
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I don't know why people are complaining about this.. This opens up more times for FP-... Nobody's forcing you to take part of the test.. With these restrictions regular FP people will have better chances to do their "thing" now..
Yes but once FP- is gone and this is done testing then what
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:25 AM   #108
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This isn't a matter of the system being buggy. Not everyone has encountered bugs in this process.

This is WDW FP+ developers being morons! This was an intentional change and personally, I hope that everyone will send them an email complaining about the changes. They won't know that we are unhappy unless we tell them.
it is important people do speak up. If they believe it could lose money they'll rethink.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:25 AM   #109
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Yes but once FP- is gone and this is done testing then what
Then we cross that bridge when we get to it.. "what if's" doesn't do you any good except raise your blood pressure.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:25 AM   #110
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Yes but once FP- is gone and this is done testing then what
Why stress now over something you have no idea how it will be working in the future????

Worry about what you can do today!!
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Nope. Common sense.. FP+ and FP- use the same pool.. less chances to reserve FP+ on one headliner means more chances using FP-.
You honestly believe they are trying to free up FP+ so they can add to FP- (the system they are getting rid of)?
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But here's the difference between you and me then. I'm not going to let the fact that I can't ride Soarin' or might have to stand in a longer line for it, RUIN my vacation. This is where this is being blown out of proportion, IMO. Does it stink that they did this? Yes it does. Does it make riding those rides harder? Yes. But it won't ruin my vacation. My vacation consists of a lot more than just being able to ride headliner rides.
I agree standing in a line shouldn't ruin your vacation it's not like they are getting rid of fast pass altogether but there changing it and a lot of people don't like change.
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Why stress now over something you have no idea how it will be working in the future????

Worry about what you can do today!!
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:26 AM   #114
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I don't know why people are complaining about this..
This opens up more times for FP-...
Nobody's forcing you to take part of the test.. With these restrictions regular FP people will have better chances to do their "thing" now..
But the point is that they will go away with FP-.

So eventually you will have 1 FP for the e-ticket/headliner and everyone will have to wait in long lines over the others.

Some people are ok with that, some are not.

The ones who are not should give Disney feedback so they know. Whether Disney do anything with the complaints is something else. They might care, they might not.
But at least people should speak up. Because I thought that's the purpose of this test. That Disney wants to know the outcome of the test.
Then again... who knows what their agenda is...

Maybe they're making all these changes to throw us off balance.
So that when they decide on 3 FP+/day total on any park we will all say "Phew... at least they're not limiting us to 1 headliner per day per park anymore!".

Y'know... lowering guest's expectations...
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I agree standing in a line shouldn't ruin your vacation it's not like they are getting rid of fast pass altogether but there changing it and a lot of people don't like change.
That's a given. LOL
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:28 AM   #116
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You honestly believe they are trying to free up FP+ so they can add to FP- (the system they are getting rid of)?
No I don't think they are doing anything but testing.. But the fact of the matter is during this particular stage of the testing.. It will indeed free up FP- somewhat.
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But here's the difference between you and me then. I'm not going to let the fact that I can't ride Soarin' or might have to stand in a longer line for it, RUIN my vacation.

This is where this is being blown out of proportion, IMO. Does it stink that they did this? Yes it does. Does it make riding those rides harder? Yes. But it won't ruin my vacation. My vacation consists of a lot more than just being able to ride headliner rides.
Here's what's angering people: from prior to the start of this millennia up until October 14, 2013, it was possible to collect FPs for TT, Soarin', Mission: SPACE, and Maelstrom all on the same day (I did it quite frequently) thus not have to wait in a long line. Sure, it was a bit stressful at times, but with the new system, if you want to ride more than one of those rides, you now need to wait in a long line. The fact of the matter FP+ is not as much of an upgrade as a downgrade. Look, I was fine with a system where I could reserve TT at home and collect FPs for Soarin' when I get there, but that won't be able to happen. Remember, that in an age where you're charging people north of $90 to get in to one of that park, people expect to be able to ride the rides they want to. Some would say that's entitlement, but I'd would call that a reasonable expectation.

P.S. S&D are getting FP+ starting Nov. 4, but they won't get MBs or be able to reserve it in advance, so they'll need to go to a MM+ Service Center in the park to make the reservations from what's left.


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No I don't think they are doing anything but testing.. But the fact of the matter is during this particular stage of the testing.. It will indeed free up FP- somewhat.
While this thought did cross my head, in the short term, it won't make a significant impact. The majority of people with FP+ reservations for the coming weeks, had the ability to make FP+s for both rides. It won't be until at least the end of the month when it starts to make a slightly larger difference.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:29 AM   #118
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But the point is that they will go away with FP-.

So eventually you will have 1 FP for the e-ticket/headliner and everyone will have to wait in long lines over the others.
Not true. You don't know that. This whole system is ever-evolving and changing daily. Just because they made a change today doesn't mean that's how it will permanently be in the future. Right now you can still get paper FPs. Worry about what you can do today.
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...... and for some reason some people believe that all change is good. It is entirely possible to change something and end up worse off.
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Why stress now over something you have no idea how it will be working in the future???? Worry about what you can do today!!
I'm not stressing I'm just saying. I haven't been to Disney in just over a year and I won't get back until next year so it will be in full working order before I get back I just like looking at what's all available and how this is working for everyone. FP- is going to be phased out once FP+ is rolled out so that's why I brought it up.
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