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Old 10-21-2013, 11:47 AM   #16
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I think it is ones choice to purchase an RFID blocking bag, but at the same time being on a message board, facebook, using a cell phone, paying by a credit card etc kinda defeats the purpose of said blocking bag no?
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Old 10-21-2013, 11:48 AM   #17
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No you're right. There's only your iPhone or other GPS enabled device that most people carry on them for that.

ETA... I seriously don't get how some of you even leave your houses. LOL Really. Are you that paranoid that Disney or someone else is tracking your every move?

Nope, not paranoid. I have nothing to be afraid of and nothing to hide. They put black boxes on cars, RFID chips in clothing, etc. It is unavoidable. But seriously, the execs at Disney don't need to know your every move for their own personal analysis. However, just because they say that your personal information isn't stored in the band doesn't make it true.
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Old 10-21-2013, 11:49 AM   #18
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I think it's naive to believe that Disney wasn't already tracking your every move in the park. They already knew when you were on the throne or on the bus. I think if you're worried about being monitored to that degree, it may be time to take another vacation. I'm saying this as a non-apologist.
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Old 10-21-2013, 11:49 AM   #19
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Are you that paranoid that Disney or someone else is tracking your every move?
For me, it's less about that. It's the irritating notion that for-profit companies use me and my family's movements, behaviors, preferences, habits, curiosities, spending choices, idiosyncracies, entertainment choices to either:

1. sell that data to their partners or third-parties;
2. target market/target mail to me; or
3. who knows what else

...without compensating me for it.

If they want to give us each a $25 gift card for this data, then maybe I'd consider it.

That all being said, I know I "don't HAVE to use the MBs."

(Yeah, right. Disney has brilliantly made it such that I really don't have a say in the matter if I want to see any of their major attractions before midnight. )
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Old 10-21-2013, 11:51 AM   #20
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Well gee, if a Disney exec said it, it must be true. Now, THAT is naive.

I know more than I ever wanted to about RFID chips/tracking devices.....just because somebody said they do not store your information doesn't mean they aren't.
I think (?) you got my point then with my edit... All we know is what Disney tells us.
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Old 10-21-2013, 11:52 AM   #21
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Nope, not paranoid. I have nothing to be afraid of and nothing to hide. They put black boxes on cars, RFID chips in clothing, etc. It is unavoidable. But seriously, the execs at Disney don't need to know your every move for their own personal analysis. However, just because they say that your personal information isn't stored in the band doesn't make it true.
Why wouldn't they want that data? I'd want it. The better they can predict habits and tendencies inside the parks, the better they can control the experience. People are talking about park and attraction expansion, knowing the finite details of a person's in park experience tells Disney exactly how and where to spend their money.

If I was running a theme park, I'd want every tiny bit guest experience data I could get my hands on.
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Old 10-21-2013, 11:53 AM   #22
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[QUOTE=Maleficent Dragon;49886112]Pacsafe makes them. They come as small as credit card size and as big as a large bag. You might also check idstronghold.com.

I am sure the apologists will come out and attack you for desiring such a thing. Having friends that work in a field where they have been a part of creating GPS, RFID and other tracking devices, I do not blame you for wanting one. Disney doesn't need to know when you are on the toilet, on a bus, etc.[/QUOTE]

So how do you hide from the cameras that blanket Disney and show when you are in the bathroom, eating, on a bus etc?

I find the people who think they are not already tracked to be naīve.
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Old 10-21-2013, 11:54 AM   #23
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This 1000%! THIS!
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Why wouldn't they want that data? I'd want it. The better they can predict habits and tendencies inside the parks, the better they can control the experience. People are talking about park and attraction expansion, knowing the finite details of a person's in park experience tells Disney exactly how and where to spend their money.

If I was running a theme park, I'd want every tiny bit guest experience data I could get my hands on.
COMPLETELY AGREE. Disney is entitled to do whatever they'd (legally) like to gather and compile information to improve the "guest experience." I think the issue some folks have with the MBs is that this process is not completely "voluntary" (unless you're willing to forego some really neat features). For us, it's worth the tradeoff because we trust Disney (gasp!) and because the features far outweigh my concerns.

Now, Facebook, on the other hand...
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Disney already has our fingerprints so....
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Old 10-21-2013, 12:01 PM   #27
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I guess I just don't care if Disney knows that I have to poop 45 minutes after lunch at Cosmic Rays. (paranoid). Maybe I should? I assume that Disney is concerned with how much I spend on a meal, what sorts of rides I ride, how much I spend on souvenirs (including what type) and my touring patterns. I don't think they're listening in to my husband and I having a spat about whether or not he can take the 4 year old into the men's room to give me a break or my two oldest fighting because the middle one keeps singing a song in a loop. I'd be disturbed if Disney was using my truly personal information, but they're not.
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Old 10-21-2013, 12:04 PM   #28
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Disney already has our fingerprints so....
I'm not sure this is correct. Last time I checked (a few years ago?), Disney was using a geometric system of data points from your finger, not necessarily a "fingerprint." The system stores numerical datapoints, not the fingerprint itself.

Again, I haven't looked at this in a while, but I remember researching it when Disney first started using the technology. I'd eat my Mickey Ears if Disney is actually reading and storing "fingerprints" in the traditional sense.
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I'm not sure this is correct. Last time I checked (a few years ago?), Disney says was using a geometric system of data points from your finger, not necessarily a "fingerprint." The system stores numerical datapoints, not the fingerprint itself.

Again, I haven't looked at this in a while, but I remember researching it when Disney first started using the technology. I'd eat my Mickey Ears if Disney is actually reading and storing "fingerprints" in the traditional sense.
wait how did you put that? I fixed that quote for you?
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wait how did you put that? I fixed that quote for you?
HA! BRILLIANT. LOVE IT. You're exactly right!
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