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Old 10-08-2013, 01:46 PM   #196
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... Also, just a piece of information that I have received via email from Disney is that the DAS cards will be valid for shows and accessible viewing areas at parades.
Interesting!

I'm wondering if there might be new DAS viewing areas -- because otherwise, this statement sounds counter-intuitive to all our prior experiences with the accessible parade viewing areas at WDW. These areas have traditionally been for people in wheelchairs, ECVs, remaining in a stroller-as-wheelchair -- often people who may not need or even qualify for a DAS. As a party of 3, we've always been told that usually only 1 other is allowed in (not the whole party) but if 1 person sits on the ground in front and 1 stands behind then all 3 of us have been allowed. I don't see that working for whole parties of 6. Plus these spaces can fill up fairly quickly and they pack people in elbow-to-elbow. Definitely not a place for a last-minute arrival with a person who can't wait and needs his/her "space" to be comfortable. Of course, it could depend how crowded the park is on any given day/time, but I don't see these as a place were I would want to take an autistic guest. Hence, my thought maybe there will be other areas set-up for DAS users.

I can't speak for how accessible viewing areas have worked at DL, but what I've experienced at WDW doesn't sound like it's the place for a DAS user. I guess we'll have to wait and see what the reports are later this week...
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Apparently there is a demonstration planned tomorrow Morning at DL. The planners have invited news crews etc. I personally wish the planner of this protest would have waited to see how everything goes rather than adding to the stress of the first day roll out.
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Apparently there is a demonstration planned tomorrow Morning at DL. The planners have invited news crews etc. I personally wish the planner of this protest would have waited to see how everything goes rather than adding to the stress of the first day roll out.
Well I will not be there til the afternoon, so hopefully I will miss it. But I agree with the idea of me waiting my turn - I am no more special than anyone around me, disabled or able-bodied. I do not get to go faster or slower than anyone else - I just have the legal right to wait (like the average guest going into the park waits) in a safe manner. And I will make sure that I get to wait in a safe manner.

But protesting something that (A) has not happened yet, and (B) strives for equality and inclusion for people with disabilities? Why would you do that?

That is what this system is trying to do - make a more equal system. And maybe the DAS is not perfect, not yet. No system will ever be perfect for everyone. But I actually feel better knowing I can wait my turn. I felt bad when I knew I waited a shorter time, but I also knew the stand-by line was not an option.

So I am going into this hoping that it will work out okay. I will certainly tell Disney of any problems I may have, but I am hoping things will turn out okay. If I go in thinking it will all fail, I will be nothing but nerves and anxiety, and I will have a terrible day (as will anyone within a 10 foot radius of me). And I want to have a happy day at the Happiest Place on Earth.
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Well I will not be there til the afternoon, so hopefully I will miss it. But I agree with the idea of me waiting my turn - I am no more special than anyone around me, disabled or able-bodied. I do not get to go faster or slower than anyone else - I just have the legal right to wait (like the average guest going into the park waits) in a safe manner. And I will make sure that I get to wait in a safe manner.

But protesting something that (A) has not happened yet, and (B) strives for equality and inclusion for people with disabilities? Why would you do that?

That is what this system is trying to do - make a more equal system. And maybe the DAS is not perfect, not yet. No system will ever be perfect for everyone. But I actually feel better knowing I can wait my turn. I felt bad when I knew I waited a shorter time, but I also knew the stand-by line was not an option.

So I am going into this hoping that it will work out okay. I will certainly tell Disney of any problems I may have, but I am hoping things will turn out okay. If I go in thinking it will all fail, I will be nothing but nerves and anxiety, and I will have a terrible day (as will anyone within a 10 foot radius of me). And I want to have a happy day at the Happiest Place on Earth.
I'm confused is this the thread for WDW or DL?
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A good couple of reminders:

Everything is going to be new for guests using the new program, but also for CMs, so please everyone be patient with CMs and other guests.

There are people (like the protesters that are apparently coming to DL) who are hoping the program fails and really not giving it a chance. I just hope no one gets hurt out of all this.

One final reminder, the first few days and weeks are going to be the hardest because everything is just getting settled. It probably won't be all worked out for a while. Anyone going in the near future should expect waits and some snafus - expecting everything to roll out completely smoothly would be kind of like going shopping on Black Friday and expecting the stores to be completely empty - it's just not going to happen.
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I'm confused is this the thread for WDW or DL?
Sorry, this is the WDW thread - I was just responding to a DL comment.
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Thank you so much for this thread and posting all the info for us Sue! I agree it's going to have some teething problems what new system doesn't! Looking forward to hearing about how it goes now its live. As a person with need for dAS card and wheelchair entry as I have reasons why I cannot wait in line I am most interested in how this will work! As Yoda would say reading with interest I am mmmm. Paula x
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no das at epcot

We are at epcot now and dd went to guest services and wsd told they are not giving out any cards. No gac and no das.
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We are at epcot now and dd went to guest services and wsd told they are not giving out any cards. No gac and no das.
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Interesting. Would you mind saying what you need is? I've read that wheelchair or ECv will not get a card even if they have in the past (assuming no other needs)
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