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Old 09-28-2013, 09:14 AM   #256
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The average was 3, that's where it came from. Turbo users, like the VAST majority of Disers, got many more. Idiots got none. Disney is going to limit everyone to three, and pick them for the idiots.

There will be very few left for good rides. Math doesn't lie.

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Yep. It's possible that Disney might want everyone to get 5-9 Fps, but when you put them at everyone's fingertips via smartphone, you will get more usage. And when Disney assigns FPs to the uninformed (or close to it) you will get more usage. And when you set the system up so those who want only 1 in fact have to reserve a minimum of 3...... you get more usage.

Math does indeed not lie.

Disney may think people are going to get 5-9. But they also thought they were prepared for the "Unleash the Villains" event a couple weeks ago. For such a smart successful company sometimes they just seem dense. Or something.

And an arbitrary number of 5-9 means nothing to me if 4 or 5 of those are for attractions that never needed a FP in the first place. It's still a pretty substantial downgrade in my park experience.
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Old 09-28-2013, 01:15 PM   #257
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And when you set the system up so those who want only 1 in fact have to reserve a minimum of 3...... you get more usage.
THIS. I only wanted to book FP+ for TT and Soarin' but MDE kept trying to force a Mission Space one on me too. I decided to add on Maelstrom, since I know we'll probably ride it, but I didn't really want or need it. I almost booked the third one for Figment, just to see if any CM's would be shocked that someone actually did.
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Old 09-28-2013, 02:32 PM   #258
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The average was 3, that's where it came from. Turbo users, like the VAST majority of Disers, got many more. Idiots got none. Disney is going to limit everyone to three, and pick them for the idiots.

There will be very few left for good rides. Math doesn't lie.

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3 per day is total park average. But many don't use it at all and most of those will continue to not use the system. The family that uses fastpass pulls 5-9 of them (I'm inferring from this number coming up from the imagineer). The utility of the fp+ will mirror that if the old system is the message I got. It is intended to be a direct replacement for the legacy fastpass system.

Disney has no incentive to reduce the fastpass system capacity. So a family that presently does not use them will likely continue to not use them.
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Old 09-28-2013, 03:11 PM   #259
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It would seem to make so much more sense to have advance booking of 3 FP+ per day for everyone, and then let everyone pull as many more (electronic, not paper) FP as you want/can using the MB inside the parks once you are there.

The rules could remain the same as they are today as far as FP timing goes.
This is exactly what Disney should do, but since it makes perfect sense, they probably won't. I'm glad you put that on your survey because I would have told them the same thing!
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Old 09-28-2013, 03:38 PM   #260
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Yes, it still works.

However, we encountered a few CM's that were not happy with us for taking advantage of it.

A piece of advice...

Take off your magic band before approaching the paper FP machines.

You'll avoid the catty CM comments that way.
" OK, Jane Doe, right? Just jotting it down to mention your name to Guest Services.".
Not that I'd report them but if they want to be a jerk, then I'll happily be one too.

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Disney knows this. Spent dinner with an imagineer and we talked ... I should only say the subject came up.

The reason fp+ is limited to just 3 per day is BECAUSE the legacy system is still in operation. The new system will be a complete replacement for the old system with passes that can be booked in advance and additional passes loaded as needed at the park. Expect the number of advanced passes to be increased to 5-9 per day depending on park hours, park size, etc.

They can't roll it out in full bloom because they haven't sunset the old system yet. That's why this is a test.
I can see 5-9 because FP+ includes parades and shows. It ould definitely make the whole FP+ more palatable. 3 just aren't enough for the MK.
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Old 09-28-2013, 03:47 PM   #261
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I'm sure this has been answered in this lengthy thread. But do you still get a KTTW card when checking in, if you have MBs?
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Old 09-28-2013, 03:54 PM   #262
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I'm sure this has been answered in this lengthy thread. But do you still get a KTTW card when checking in, if you have MBs?
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Old 09-28-2013, 04:22 PM   #263
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Yes

Is it given automatically or do you have to request the card?
I made my FP+ selections and customized my bands, but I'm not completely sold on the idea. We are very strategic when using our fastpasses and I will be very disappointed to only be able to use 3 a day. Especially when we park hop. I was only able to reserve FP+ for one park per day.
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Is it given automatically or do you have to request the card?
I made my FP+ selections and customized my bands, but I'm not completely sold on the idea. We are very strategic when using our fastpasses and I will be very disappointed to only be able to use 3 a day. Especially when we park hop. I was only able to reserve FP+ for one park per day.
It has been given automatically so far.
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Old 09-28-2013, 04:44 PM   #265
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It has been given automatically so far.
Thanks for the info! I hope this stays the same for my trip Thanksgiving week!
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Old 09-28-2013, 04:51 PM   #266
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It has been given automatically so far.
Thanks for the info! I hope this stays the same for my trip Thanksgiving week!
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Old 09-28-2013, 05:25 PM   #267
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We were at Disney from 9/1 thru 9/10. We used both fp and fp+ and never once had a negative comment from any CM's. I would find it strange that a CM would get annoyed if a guest is getting a paper fp if they have a band. Disney is allowing it and they don't even tell you not to do it. The CM's used to actually get excited when they saw our fastbands.
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Old 09-28-2013, 08:47 PM   #268
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Does double dipping with a ticket and KTW card still work?
We are at WDW now and don't have MB. We have YES tickets KTTW card and our room only KTTW card from last year. All 3 are working to pull fastpasses.

It isn't very busy so we really haven't used them. I don't think we even picked up any fastpasses yesterday at MK.
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Old 09-28-2013, 10:06 PM   #269
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We are at WDW now and don't have MB. We have YES tickets KTTW card and our room only KTTW card from last year. All 3 are working to pull fastpasses.

It isn't very busy so we really haven't used them. I don't think we even picked up any fastpasses yesterday at MK.
Wait, old room keys can be used to pull fast passes?
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Wait, old room keys can be used to pull fast passes?
For now, yes.
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