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Old 08-22-2013, 01:06 PM   #1
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How did the housekeeper get in the safe?

I just read the story about the housekeeper stealing money from the safe. This concerns me since I use the in room safe for my nook and sometimes my phone.
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what housekeeper? what safe? what story?

I must be living under a mushroom.
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Old 08-22-2013, 01:26 PM   #3
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what housekeeper? what safe? what story?

I must be living under a mushroom.
Yes, you must be because this is at least the fifth thread started on the topic, and at least the fourth in this forum alone.

OP, no one really knows. The news article did not say if the key was left somewhere in the room or not.
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I must be living under a mushroom.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,6027089.story
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Old 08-22-2013, 01:53 PM   #5
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Ah yes, I found it. Sorry, I slept in today.

If the safe lookes like this one:

Then it probably responded to the default password of all-zeros.

There was a write up about this safe not long ago.

Even if hotel staff put in a custom default password it's possible she happened to be arround one one day when they were opening a safe for the guest.

I've opened this safe at a couple of hotels just using the all-zeroes failsafe.

This is the most likely explanation. Francois doesn't look like much of a hacker.

If I was in her position (and the all-zeroes didn't work) there are still ways of getting in.

Could apply a thin coat of hairspray to the keypad before a guest checked in then inspect it after they leave to get the keys they used. For a 6 didgit combination this would only help you narrow down possible combinations.

Mount a security camera facing the keypad. would have to get a really tiny and expensive camera but who shields their code when in their own hotel room.

Pull off the plastic facia on the safe and access the firmware programming connector. Dump a new firmware onto the chip using high-voltage flash programming (it overrides built in data protection on the chip).

I haven't seen this safe but on a few models the leads to the actual motor that withdraws the lock can be accessed even if the safe is locked.

When the safe is open, the mounting hardware can be accessed, uninstall the hotel safe and re-install one just like it that you purchased yourself. Now you have the default code and can open it whenever you like.

I'm pretty sure this case involved one of the first two possibilities.

I let my housekeeper know first day that every area of my room is under surveilance. I get a text and a picture whenever anyone goes into my room during the day.
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Old 08-22-2013, 02:00 PM   #6
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The safe doesn't look like that at the all stars - they are the ones that are small in the wall and open with a key.
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Pic I had was from the polynesian. Real similar to one in this video

http://youtu.be/cPcmZ7zIqfo
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If someone is really interested, get me the make and model of the safe and I'll tell you how the housekeeper likely got into it.

The housekeeper is a Haitian immigrant, so I'm guessing she got herself a master key somewhere.
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If someone is really interested, get me the make and model of the safe and I'll tell you how the housekeeper likely got into it.

The housekeeper is a Haitian immigrant, so I'm guessing she got herself a master key somewhere.
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If someone is really interested, get me the make and model of the safe and I'll tell you how the housekeeper likely got into it.

The housekeeper is a Haitian immigrant, so I'm guessing she got herself a master key somewhere.
Does this apply to all immigrants or just Haitians?

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If someone is really interested, get me the make and model of the safe and I'll tell you how the housekeeper likely got into it.

The housekeeper is a Haitian immigrant, so I'm guessing she got herself a master key somewhere.
Darn shame they didn't get a Brazilian maid!
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Does this apply to all immigrants or just Haitians?

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Sorry, Was kind of a disjointed stream of consciousness.

My point was only that as an immigrant from a poor nation it is unlikely that she entered the safe using high-tech or highly skilled methods.

The thread was started with the question of how entry to the safe was gained, and conversation on this has included discussion on how easy or tricky it is to get into them.

I am the last person to judge a person's human value based on where they were born, but a persons likely safe-cracking method ...
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Sorry, Was kind of a disjointed stream of consciousness.

My point was only that as an immigrant from a poor nation it is unlikely that she entered the safe using high-tech or highly skilled methods.

The thread was started with the question of how entry to the safe was gained, and conversation on this has included discussion on how easy or tricky it is to get into them.

I am the last person to judge a person's human value based on where they were born, but a persons likely safe-cracking method ...

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Also, I'm guessing that she used a candlestick she scored from Col. Mustard in the library.
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