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Old 08-13-2013, 09:07 PM   #1
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Children should not have to think like this

My DS is staring Kindergarten next week. Tonight we were talking through some of the things he is nervous about. It was the usual how will I find my teacher, what if I don't know any kids, how will I find my backpack etc.
Then, he asks "what if a bad guy comes in the school with guns?" I responded by telling him the school was safe and they have door locks. This seemed to satisfy him but not me.

I am sure he has heard bits and pieces of news stories but had never said anything like this before. I feel awful that a 5 year old has to think like this. I just cried.

Anyone else had to address with such a little kid?
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:43 PM   #2
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My DS is staring Kindergarten next week. Tonight we were talking through some of the things he is nervous about. It was the usual how will I find my teacher, what if I don't know any kids, how will I find my backpack etc.
Then, he asks "what if a bad guy comes in the school with guns?" I responded by telling him the school was safe and they have door locks. This seemed to satisfy him but not me.

I am sure he has heard bits and pieces of news stories but had never said anything like this before. I feel awful that a 5 year old has to think like this. I just cried.

Anyone else had to address with such a little kid?
It is definitely heartbreaking! It's a different world from what I grew up in. My youngest has lockdown drills now. A code is given over the intercom and each room has a particular place or wall in which the students are to sit--silently. I was in the school during one and it was unnerving. I had to sit where the kids sat, the leaders turned off the lights, windows were covered, door was locked. Then the principal walked the halls checked doors to verify they were locked--THAT in itself was scary! You're sitting in the dark and then that door is rattled!! Then, like a fire drill, the all clear is given and the kids go back to what they were doing. As much as it saddened me, the children weren't bothered by it at all--it's part of their normal routine now.

I wish you luck next week! It's a big step for both of you!
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It is definitely heartbreaking! It's a different world from what I grew up in. My youngest has lockdown drills now. A code is given over the intercom and each room has a particular place or wall in which the students are to sit--silently. I was in the school during one and it was unnerving. I had to sit where the kids sat, the leaders turned off the lights, windows were covered, door was locked. Then the principal walked the halls checked doors to verify they were locked--THAT in itself was scary! You're sitting in the dark and then that door is rattled!! Then, like a fire drill, the all clear is given and the kids go back to what they were doing. As much as it saddened me, t othe children weren't bothered by it at all--it's parf their normal routine now.

I wish you luck next week! It's a big step for both of you!
the bolded words really bother me. to think my grandchildren, when they are old enough to go to school will think nothing of it to practice lock downs.
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:56 PM   #4
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I am a Kindergarten teacher and we have been doing lock down drills for the past 5 years or so. As a previous poster said, the kids are not rattled by it at all. It does make me sad when my kids come in and tell me that they are worried about bad guys in the school.
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:03 PM   #5
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Today in St. Charles Missouri, they had a lockdown situation. Kicker was the guy is a firefighter. Yep. He came to the HS distraught to see his ex-wife, who was a teacher and child who went to the school. The school resource officer met him in the parking lot because I think the ex-wife alerted the school to the situation.

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2013/08/...into-lockdown/
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:10 PM   #6
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If definitely brings the suck but schools are just as safe today as when we were kids. 30+ years ago.


Problem we have today is the 24 hour media and the political machine pushing its agenda behind every tragedy.
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:12 AM   #7
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After our school shooting just outside of Jonesboro, AR, the one child in the class that was not shot of the entire class that was targeted dropped to the ground. DD was in kindergarten when the shooting occurred. I told her to do the same if she was ever in that situation. Hit the ground and don't move if you are not in a position to get out. Play injured.
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:19 AM   #8
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If definitely brings the suck but schools are just as safe today as when we were kids. 30+ years ago.


Problem we have today is the 24 hour media and the political machine pushing its agenda behind every tragedy.
People are crazy now, too. Every boy I knew carried a pocket knife and there were no stabbings. Well, there were a few, but that was girls and it was forks from the cafeteria or picks. Fights were with fists, not guns and knives. I'm from a hunting state. Many boys and male teachers carried their crossbows and rifles in their trucks from hunting before school. No one freaked out or got scared.

I don't think schools are as safe as they were 30 years ago, but I do think it is because when there are tragedies, it's a nonstop coverage making the shooters famous and each wants to outdo the others. The Columbine shooters wanted to do more damage than the Westside shooters. I wish they could report it and be done with it, not carry it on and on for weeks. We still get some reporters show up every anniversary to talk to the survivors and community, and it's been 15 yrs.
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:48 AM   #9
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There was a shooting at my high school last year on the first day of school and it was easily the most terrifying experience of my life, even though I wasn't there since I'm in college. Someone I knew was shot by another student with a very troubled life. (Luckily the victim fully recovered.) It really changes your perspective on things and sadly I don't think the concept of the first day of school will ever be the same for me or for the rest of my community as a result. With that said, coming from a small-ish town where everyone has some kind of connection to the high school, very small children were aware of what happened and it seemed like they weren't scared for themselves at their schools; they were scared for their older siblings or their parents who are teachers in the school. No child should ever have to fear that their mom or dad isn't safe at work or that their older brother or sister isn't safe at school. It's sad what this world has come to and it's definitely something that has to be approached gently when speaking to children.
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Are any of you old enough to have done an air raid drill in school in the 60's?
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Old 08-14-2013, 04:44 AM   #11
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Not old enough for air raid drills, but when I was in school, we had to do nuclear war simulations. It went something like this - 25 people are in a shelter, you only have supplies for 10. Choose which people will be allowed to stay.

As a teacher, I've had to do lockdown drills. I've also had to discuss 9/11 on 9/12/01. I'd rather do the lockdown drills.
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Are any of you old enough to have done an air raid drill in school in the 60's?
I remember those- we used to either have to go out in the hallway and kneel down facing the wall with our arms over our heads or get under the desks in the classroom- I remember those sirens in the school blaring!
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Old 08-14-2013, 06:11 AM   #13
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Are any of you old enough to have done an air raid drill in school in the 60's?
LOL. I remember them well. Even when I was a little kid I wondered how in the heck was this little wooden desk going to help in the Russians started dropping bombs.

Some times we would have to stuff ourselves in the cloak room. truthfully we thought they were cool because it got us away from classwork.

I mourn for the kids today. Yeah they have all this great technology but what they have lost is far greater.
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I was in middle school when the Columbine shooting happened. That's when the lock down drills started for me. We had a few a year until I graduated H.S.
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My father used to worry about nuclear bombs when he was a kid in school. He told me once he was scared his MOTHER wouldn't know what to do so he had an elaborate plan to jump out his classroom window and run home to tell her how to duck and cover if the siren ever went off.

Children shouldn't have to think like this...and luckily, they don't anymore. Take hear OP. Perhaps one day kids won't have to worry like your son.
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