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Old 07-24-2013, 08:33 PM   #31
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I'll be the party pooper and say that the Hawaiian cruise (admittedly not on Disney) we took a few years ago has been my least favorite cruise (I've taken 6). It was neat getting to see all the major islands, but I never felt like I could relax on a beach...it was all go, go, go. I personally feel plopping at a posh resort is the best way to do Hawaii rather than cruising.
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:58 PM   #32
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I'll be the party pooper and say that the Hawaiian cruise (admittedly not on Disney) we took a few years ago has been my least favorite cruise (I've taken 6). It was neat getting to see all the major islands, but I never felt like I could relax on a beach...it was all go, go, go. I personally feel plopping at a posh resort is the best way to do Hawaii rather than cruising.
Ah, but that's the magic of DCL. A DCL Hawaii cruise isn't like any other cruiseline Hawaii cruise.
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:21 PM   #33
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I'll be the party pooper and say that the Hawaiian cruise (admittedly not on Disney) we took a few years ago has been my least favorite cruise (I've taken 6). It was neat getting to see all the major islands, but I never felt like I could relax on a beach...it was all go, go, go. I personally feel plopping at a posh resort is the best way to do Hawaii rather than cruising.
Thats a real shame because our Hawaii cruise on NCL was the best overall vacation we have ever taken - NOT because of the ship but because we executed a fantastic itinerary balancing killer private excursions, luau on maui, helicopter tour, seeing active volcano spilling lava into the ocean, and programming in some relaxing beach time on some of the best beaches I've ever seen. We even loaded in an entire day of relaxation at the Hilton Waikaloa resort village on our Kona day.

My best SHIP experience to date was being on the Fantasy for a week last year.
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Old 07-24-2013, 11:26 PM   #34
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I find this highly unlikely. The Magic (after her dry dock) will be too long to fit through the Panama Canal locks. Until the new locks are finished (which is not known at this time), the Magic won't be able to cross to the west coast.

Plus the Wonder has already been refitted for her Alaska cruises (with the enclosing of the Outlook Café). The Magic doesn't have this.

Speculation currently is that the Wonder's dry dock won't happen until the new locks are done. Any certificates that need to be renewed will be done so during either a quick regular dry dock (not getting the changes the Magic is getting) or an in water inspection.
I haven't sent anything suggesting that the Magic will be lengthened during the upcoming dry dock. Unlikely that could be accomplished in only 6 weeks. So she should still be able to transit the canal.

The new locks are tentatively scheduled to open in mid 2015.
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:22 AM   #35
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I haven't sent anything suggesting that the Magic will be lengthened during the upcoming dry dock. Unlikely that could be accomplished in only 6 weeks. So she should still be able to transit the canal.

The new locks are tentatively scheduled to open in mid 2015.
The new locks -- Panamax -- are so far behind it's a joke. Realistically the locks might not open til 2017.

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The Disney Magic will undergo a 6 week refurbishment at Navantia in Cadiz, Spain from September 7th to around October 10th. The Magic will grow from 964 feet to 984 feet and gain 1,000 gross tons. Then, work will continue during the Westbound Transatlantic sailing, which will sail without passengers for obvious reasons.
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Old 07-25-2013, 01:48 AM   #36
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Captain Pucket, he used to be a canal pilot, told me on this years WBPC that according to the people who he knows down there, they are approximately 15 months behind the 2015 date. It can all change for the better but doubtful.

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Old 07-25-2013, 06:36 AM   #37
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I haven't sent anything suggesting that the Magic will be lengthened during the upcoming dry dock. Unlikely that could be accomplished in only 6 weeks. So she should still be able to transit the canal.

The new locks are tentatively scheduled to open in mid 2015.
Generally, you won't know the ship has been lengthened because it is not an upgrade to public space. As I understand it, the Magic is being fit with a ducktail on the aft. This is a fairly common thing to add to ships these days. I believe it improves fuel economy. So it is something that could be done in six weeks and does make the Magic a post-Panamax ship until the new locks are finished.
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:23 AM   #38
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Generally, you won't know the ship has been lengthened because it is not an upgrade to public space. As I understand it, the Magic is being fit with a ducktail on the aft. This is a fairly common thing to add to ships these days. I believe it improves fuel economy. So it is something that could be done in six weeks and does make the Magic a post-Panamax ship until the new locks are finished.
Yup, plenty of photos of what it should look like are somewhere on this forum and easily found through a google search.
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Ah, but that's the magic of DCL. A DCL Hawaii cruise isn't like any other cruiseline Hawaii cruise.
Care to elaborate on what made a DCL Hawaii cruise better than other cruiselines' Hawaii cruises?

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Care to elaborate on what made a DCL Hawaii cruise better than other cruiselines' Hawaii cruises?

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Well, it was a bit tongue-in-cheek, as I've not taken any other cruiseline to Hawaii. But, I feel the onboard Disney experience is better than some other cruiselines onboard experiences, meaning the sea days have more "Disneyesque" features. And I'm definitely a Disney person.
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Old 07-25-2013, 06:07 PM   #41
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We've cruised around Hawaii three times on three lines. The old America Hawaii Independence (which went out of business after 9-11) NCL Hawaii, then Disney. We enjoyed Disney the best, partly because of all the relaxing sea days coming and going. They also had the best entertainment.

The Independence was an old(!) classic ship. She was the twin sister of the ship used to film "An Affair to Remember." The rooms were roomy but the plumbing belched every night.

We were booked on NCL Pride of America for one of the first cruises, but when she was under construction in Germany a freak storm sank the hull, and that was just the beginning of the problems. Our extended family (about 30 people) were rebooked on Pride of Aloha, but it was a much smaller ship so they had trouble accommodating everyone. Our travel agent really earned her commission on that one -- she had to escalate the situation all the way to a vice president to get us the rooms we needed. After we boarded we found out that 1/3 of the crew had walked off in a labor dispute the week before, so service was deplorable at best. We haven't sailed with NCL since, and our travel agent refuses to do any more business with them. and yes, I realize NCL is more than NCL-Hawaii.
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Old 07-25-2013, 06:54 PM   #42
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I cruised Hawaii on a TransPac RCCL. Of course, Hawaii was everything you hope it would be. Huge craters, active flows, amazing pineapple and snorkeling and dolphins and luaus and helicopters over waterfalls in Kauai and more.

Can a cruise line differ? U bet. As good as Hawaii was and all our great memories, I don't even remember the name of the ship I was on....

Probably a great Hawaiian cruise on DCL would knock em all out the park. In the mean time, I'm looking forward to seeing the baby seal lions (have you seen them on Dolphin Encounter FB? Omg they so cute!) And getting back on the new Magic without having to pay airfare. Even if they went to Hawaii, it'd prob be super duper pricey. I have decided if my husband ever makes me go to Alaska, its ONLY gonna be on Disney. (Cuz I have no personal interest at all in Alaska but hey I would love the ship!)
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:13 PM   #43
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Just me personally ... I would not want to take a 14/15 day Hawaiian vacation and only get 4 days actually visiting the islands. I loved the two overnights in port where we didn't get back to the ship until way after sunset.

I'm not into multiple back to back sea days, 2 max good for me.

There are folks who LOVE sea days and that's cool.
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Our RCCL wasn't bad. It was 4 (kinda bad) sea days in the open pacific. That was it. We also had an overnight stay in Maui, the night we got engaged, we could wander all thru the night life after our awesome Luau. We flew back from Honolulu so we didn't have any more than the 4 initial sea days... I think the total cruise was 10 days, but its not impossible that it might have been 12. I seem to remember 10 though...
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Old 07-29-2013, 01:36 PM   #45
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I was on the April Hawaii cruise.
I thought that Disney choose ports very poorly. Every excursion had long bus rides, we were on the wrong side to see the lava flows, and we went to Hilo with the highest rainfall in the United States. I would have liked to stay later in the ports and not go to Oaho on Sunday. The biggest tourist place is closed on Sundays. ( Polynesian Culture Center)
The crossing weather was not good, very cold. One nice day to use the pools just before we got to Hawaii. The pool water was all over the decks.
I was seasick more days than not. I had never been seasick until this trip. I love Hawaii but never that way again.
The late dining had a rotation that was empty. That affected the tips for alot of crew mwmbers.
I don't think Disney will ever do Hawaii as a 14 or 15 day cruise again. If they do get some new ships, maybe they could station one in Hawaii for the non Alaska time and then not have to use the Canal for that ship at all. I heard a rumor that they may build some ships smaller than Dream and Fanatsy but bigger than the classics.
I am not complaining about the CM at all. They were so kind to everyone, they worked very hard and really earned the pay for those 2 weeks. The food (when I could eat) was very good. I really enjoyed the entertainment.
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