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Old 07-10-2013, 11:25 AM   #76
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This makes me angry-I am a huge Norman Rockwell fan and old time "Americana" aficionado as well as a "cup of joe" (Dunkin/Krispy Kreme etc) type guy... This is an absolute travesty-IMHOthe only way it would please us purists(I'm not the only one) is IF they kept the ENTIRE Main St Bakery Menu and supplemented that with Starbucks drinks... The Starbucks "bakery" items are lackluster at best and their cinnamon roll holds nary a drop of wax to the original MSB cinn roll... Walt Disney would be losing his proverbial marbles and perhaps spouting off like Donald Duck... He would've figured out a way to balance the sponsorship with the creativity of the bakers and make it all work and preserve the intent of Main Street.

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Old 07-10-2013, 11:26 AM   #77
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I'm about 50/50 on the starbucks thing, the reason why I'm for it is because I love the coffee, I don't drink it often but it would be a great way to start the day at the park. What I dont like about it, and I could be wrong on this part, but I believe they replaced the bakery items with the typical Starbucks bakery items. I'm not a fan at all, we can get those items at the thousands of Starbucks around the world, why not mix the coffee with the old bakery items?
Amen to this(as my post states)
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:34 PM   #78
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Great post-I agree about change and whatnot-however-as I stated in a previous post-Walt always made the sponsorships take a backseat(while remaining visible) to the authenticity of the period/theme... If only they had kept the bakery items instead of Starbucks' lackluster items...
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:01 PM   #79
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But in one sense, Starbucks is both a brand and a product. The name is advertised because it will cause my daughter to head for the sign each and every day in the park. She loves and will want Starbucks coffee. So will many others, so it makes sense to tell people you can buy Starbucks here.
Agreed! Starbucks is a strong brand that is marketable; that's why they did this. It is no different than them adding Johnny Depp to POTC as a PP brought up. Younger generations automatically associate Depp with Jack Sparrow just like they know Starbucks as a a coffee shop with baked goods.

For those of you that think this is a huge mistake, rest assured that if it doesn't work they will promptly change it again and drop the partnership. WDW has done this many times in the past.
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:12 PM   #80
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This makes me angry-I am a huge Norman Rockwell fan and old time "Americana" aficionado as well as a "cup of joe" (Dunkin/Krispy Kreme etc) type guy... This is an absolute travesty-IMHOthe only way it would please us purists(I'm not the only one) is IF they kept the ENTIRE Main St Bakery Menu and supplemented that with Starbucks drinks... The Starbucks "bakery" items are lackluster at best and their cinnamon roll holds nary a drop of wax to the original MSB cinn roll... Walt Disney would be losing his proverbial marbles and perhaps spouting off like Donald Duck... He would've figured out a way to balance the sponsorship with the creativity of the bakers and make it all work and preserve the intent of Main Street.

(Perhaps I should expound upon this and email Mr. Staggs??)
I believe the small town coffee shop was far more common than the bakery during the Victorian age.
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:22 AM   #81
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This makes me angry-I am a huge Norman Rockwell fan and old time "Americana" aficionado as well as a "cup of joe" (Dunkin/Krispy Kreme etc) type guy... This is an absolute travesty-IMHOthe only way it would please us purists(I'm not the only one) is IF they kept the ENTIRE Main St Bakery Menu and supplemented that with Starbucks drinks... The Starbucks "bakery" items are lackluster at best and their cinnamon roll holds nary a drop of wax to the original MSB cinn roll... Walt Disney would be losing his proverbial marbles and perhaps spouting off like Donald Duck... He would've figured out a way to balance the sponsorship with the creativity of the bakers and make it all work and preserve the intent of Main Street.

(Perhaps I should expound upon this and email Mr. Staggs??)
So you would be happy if there was a dunkin donuts or a krispy kreme on main street? But starbucks is bad?
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Old 07-11-2013, 08:12 AM   #82
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~This is NOT my argument, at all. I would never argue about "sponsorship" in the parks. The bakery was replaced with a common coffee franchise.
Starbucks DOES NOT franchise.

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Old 07-11-2013, 10:07 AM   #83
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Hmmm

Walt came to me in a dream last night and said boooooorrrrriiiiiiiiinnnngggg....where's the creativity, where's the imagination....bring me my imagineers....we're not running a strip mall here
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:35 AM   #84
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I hear your passion !! Lol

But let's remember ALL Disney food is "mass" produced !! To say Starbucks is guilty of it is a fact, however Disney is just as if not more guilty of it. The food quality at Disney has consistently gone hill for years. This might spark a much needed call for food quality to improve. We can always vote with our $ and stop attending the park. I myself will keep attending and avoid 700 sq feet of Main Street.
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Old 07-11-2013, 10:42 AM   #85
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I think Walt would either say "I'll have a white chocolate mocha... Thank god they got rid of that Nescafé crap"

Or "what!?! Since when did a cup of coffee cost more than $0.05"

Can we stop with the Walt stuff please? The dust settled on him fifty years ago and any "family" influence was erased in 1984. Evolution and change are constants that have no mechanism for stopping
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Magic Johnson sold his 105 Starbucks franchises...

...back to Starbucks in 2010. Starbucks offers very limited franchise opportunities at their discretion, it is not available to the general public. http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakers...ranchises.html

Starbucks does franchise Seattle's Best. http://investor.starbucks.com/phoeni...irol-faq#26956
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:)

With enough sugar, chocolate, mocha, cinnamon, half and half, what nots, etceteras and who knows whats anything will go down easy
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what would walt say....

I thinkl Walt would say "Ill have a latte please" lol

or he would go "OOOOOOOH Money Money Money!!" in the style of Toy Story lol



Has anyone seen the documentary waking sleeping beauty? on there Walts Newphew - Roy and others basically saying "you cant let a dead guy run your company"
and "if we dont keep with the times were basically going to be running a meuseum"

can anyone honestly say that the coffee disney was putting out before was good? it was a cup of swamp water! now with coffee.. glad starbucks is there and it fits with the style of main street blended really well IMHO
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Old 07-12-2013, 10:45 AM   #89
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you mean

coffee flavored drinks don't you? Just think what they(Disney) could have done with even a little imagination infused into the redu.
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So you would be happy if there was a dunkin donuts or a krispy kreme on main street? But starbucks is bad?
No-merely stating my coffee preference... I drink Starbucks on occasion-but I associated the Bakery with cinnamon buns and old time Missouri baking...
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