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Old 06-24-2013, 11:54 AM   #46
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~I'm going to have to guess that the reason Disney didn't allow a Starbucks in Fantasyland is because the Starbucks drinks would upstage the LeFrou's Brew at Gaston's Tavern. It's the only logical reason I could think of, so the bakery was the consolation prize.
I'm going to guess that the reason the Starbucks is on Main Street is because -

1. People want their coffee in the morning, on their way in to the park. Why put it at the back of the park to inconvenience the guests?
2. Main Street is supposedly a shopping district, this is where the coffee shop or bakery or whatever you want to call it belongs.
3. Probably a somewhat lesser consideration was, locating it on Main Street will draw the people who want a Starbucks drink in the afternoon/evening back to Main Street, where they may feel compelled to shop more. I'm sure it was a consideration, but like I said, lesser so than the first 2 reasons.

Most people who don't follow every move WDW makes, and/or didn't regularly go to the bakery, won't even know the difference. The façade is the same... small town American Main Street.
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Old 06-24-2013, 03:01 PM   #47
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Well

I do give Starbucks credit for trying. It's a froo froo coffee world, lol, just not for some of us.
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Old 06-27-2013, 12:12 PM   #48
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Ever notice how when you go to some attractions and restaurants there is a lot of specific type of vendors selling things such as Nestle or carnation? Even the old illumination show at Epcot would state that it was sponsored by General Electric. As far as Starbucks being part of it I think that that is just another type of sponsor that's coming to the park. And honestly I think Walt would know that this is what guess want. Mickey doesnt want people going of Disney property to go get there morning coffee. If they do then they may not have their breakfast at Disney. In the long run it's a way to keep the guests in Disney and that for sure is what walt would have wanted.
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Old 06-27-2013, 02:09 PM   #49
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I think it would make more sense to have the starbucks shops at the resorts rather than in the parks. In most morning rituals, the coffee comes first, or at least long before waiting at a bus stop, a bus ride, and a walk into a park.
True, but by that time many of us are ready for a second jolt ;-) Also, it's not as if Starbucks' business is limited to that morning rush. Most shops seem to remain pretty busy throughout the day. I know I'll be more than happy to spend my free dining snack credits on venti iced green tea lattes in the afternoon.


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Starbucks shops are a place for people to hang out, study, do some work correspondence, etc. I don't see this happening in the parks. Won't be surprised if they are not so busy.
That seems consistent with the fact they removed all the seating. I suspect they'll sell a lot of drinks but the lines will move efficiently and people will get in and out of there.

Starbucks on Main Street is just a sign of the times. Low carb and gluten free diets are becoming more prevalent. If I ate one of those cinnamon rolls he size of my head the sugar crash would send me to bed for the rest of the day :D Starbucks is how people snack today.
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Old 06-27-2013, 02:23 PM   #50
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Not sure what their general corporate reputation is like in America these days, but here in Britain they're generally seen as prime example of big bad corps for their shameless capitalism and pushing the legalities of our tax laws.

Avoiding to pay any corporation tax since 2009 despite sales of £400mil per year has done their reputation no favours at all.
If you're troubled by capitalistic enterprises you should probably avoid Disney as well as Starbucks.

Starbucks seems to enjoy a more favorable reputation here in the States than many other large corp's. They pay decent wages and provide health benefits for part time employees (at least I think they still do).
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I really don't get all the discontent over the Starbucks, they took one coffee shop out and put a different one, not owned by Disney, in its place. No big deal. I mean Disney is all about change, if it stayed static they would not have lasted this long. Aren't many of the big rides sponsored by one company or another? Test Track is sponsored by GM and for years Ellen's Energy Adventure was sponsored by ExxonMobil.

My only issue with Starbucks is that I would rather see them put in little coffee shops at the resorts near the Monorail and bus stations. I don't know about anyone else but I'd rather be drinking my coffee while I was on my way to the parks not once I'm inside.
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Old 07-05-2013, 05:30 PM   #52
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Smile starbucks

i am not a big fan of starbucks altho i do love good coffee, theirs is just not my favorite. i love the bakery and feel that it should just stay "main street bakery" and not be an advertisement for starbucks.

are other brands of coffee or foods used to advertise? i guess soft drinks may be the same.
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Old 07-07-2013, 07:31 AM   #53
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If you're troubled by capitalistic enterprises you should probably avoid Disney as well as Starbucks.

Starbucks seems to enjoy a more favorable reputation here in the States than many other large corp's. They pay decent wages and provide health benefits for part time employees (at least I think they still do).


Couldn't agree more!! Disney is a big corporation that often partners with other big corporations. To make money for its investors. Who knew?!

Walt would be very happy. He often tried to partner with the best, and while I am not a Starbucks fan, they are the biggest and best in the states right now. Now that Starbucks is at MK, my daughter will give SB & WDW an extra $50 or $60 this September.


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Old 07-07-2013, 07:47 AM   #54
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Couldn't agree more!! Disney is a big corporation that often partners with other big corporations. To make money for its investors. Who knew?!

Walt would be very happy. He often tried to partner with the best, and while I am not a Starbucks fan, they are the biggest and best in the states right now. Now that Starbucks is at MK, my daughter will give SB & WDW an extra $50 or $60 this September.


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Agreed-- I have never bought a coffee in the parks, and now I might. Probably will. That's much better than never.
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On another note-- I could see this drawing some people away from the Ice cream shop-- If my choice in the afternoon is between some ice cream or a solo venti carmel frappuccino, I think I would go with the caffeine splendor rather than the sugar only delight. They should make caffeinated ice cream.
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They should make caffeinated ice cream.
I want some!
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Old 07-07-2013, 08:52 AM   #57
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I'm not sure how I feel about this one yet. Im a big Starbucks fan, but not sure if it fits in with MK.

Ive seen pictures but haven't seen it in person yet, so I have to hold judgement till I get there. I know Ill miss the regular/old bakery. It was always fun to stop in there.

I hope that they still have some of the great baked goods, and not just Starbucks' brand baked goods.
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:32 AM   #58
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Starbucks was my favorite coffee before I decided to ditch caffeine (decaf just isn't the same :[ ). I might have to cheat a little and get a coffee while I'm there... I high recommend an iced white chocolate mocha, btw.
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Old 07-07-2013, 08:30 PM   #59
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Just so you know, Main Street Bakery Cast Members still work for WDW. Starbucks only provides the product. The turnover of Cast Members occurred because WDW starts new Main Street businesses with new Cast Members. Existing Cast Members were not given the opportunity to remain at Main Street Bakery. Most of the original Cast Members at Main Street Bakery were part-time College Program members who transferred to other sections. As of Yesterday, when my wife and I visited MK, and patronized Main Street Bakery, things seem to have stabilized. The drinks came quickly, and the bakery items were pretty good.
In my opinion, I think WDW has done a good job with the Bakery, other than removing the seating. But, I do understand that. Brand name coffee (much better than the Nescafe crap they used to serve) and fairly quick service (much faster than the Starbucks here in Lakeland) give the new Main Street Bakery a definite plus in my book.
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:14 PM   #60
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Walt liked to make money and I *believe* was a coffee drinker, so I'm sure he'd be completely happy when he saw drinkable coffee in his parks

My mom didn't know about the changeover but hated the coffee at WDW for years. She and dad go almost every year for F&W, but they don't keep up with WDW news. She almost cried at MK 2 weeks ago when she saw Starbucks on our girls trip. She asked me if it was real Disney Magic Let's just say many skinny venti iced mochas were enjoyed!

Another word in favor of the new bakery/coffee shop (and I'm NOT a Disney apologist), is that the layout is so much nicer from an ease of use perspective. I almost always avoided the old Mainstreet Bakery like the plague (and would get any pastries at the hotel, I understand they are all made in one place in WDW anyway) due to the clastrophic nature of the layout and inability to handle the crowd. Just a perspective. I don't think it diminishes Mainstreet at all, but I also understand its a themepark, not a living documentary of early 1900s Americana

Now if they ever get rid of IASW, that would be the end of the world for sure!
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