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Old 06-18-2013, 09:18 PM   #91
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Isn't Radiator Springs Racers basically test tack with a different theme?
If you think that, you haven't ridden it. RSR is to test track like Haunted Mansion is to Winnie the Pooh.
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Old 06-18-2013, 09:44 PM   #92
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If you think that, you haven't ridden it. RSR is to test track like Haunted Mansion is to Winnie the Pooh.
Well, I'd say more like Haunted Mansion is to Buzz Lightyear, or Under The Sea.

RSR is based on the same technology as Test Track, but it isn't the same ride at all. It isn't the same layout with a retheme, which was the case of Indiana Jones/Dinosaur, which is the exact same layout and technology, but with a different theme (ride motion, etc. may be altered, but it is the same vehicles and exact same track).
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:33 PM   #93
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Part of me would be excited for Carsland in DHS, but like others have said, it should be the signature attraction for DCA, and DCA only. Otherwise, there doesn't seem to be much of a reason to visit DCA. When Carsland was first announced, that's one of the reasons that actually intrigued me to visit (even though I haven't yet, but you know..it's not easy when you're on the East coast, I'll give you that).

Star Wars Land, on the other hand, I'm not too thrilled about. I'll be honest, I wasn't even too thrilled about Disney purchasing it. I just can't look at Star Wars and say "That's Disney", because really, it's not. I know there's some huge supporters of the Star Wars franchise, and the land itself, but I feel like it would make a better addition over at Universal, regardless of them being Disney's competition.

I definitely agree with DHS expanding its Pixar land. I would love to see a Monstropolis land, or something with the Incredibles (Where is Incredibles 2?!), and things like that. As long as it's DISNEY, and can be recognized as such, I'm all for it being added to DHS. Keep it unique, and Disney authentic.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:39 PM   #94
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Where is Incredibles 2?!
Brad Bird has been thinking about it for a while, and still wants to do it if it makes sense, and has ideas but hasn't come up with a cohesive plot yet. He's currently busy on Tomorrowland.

Disney planned on making a sequel years ago without Pixar's involvement, before the acquisition of Pixar. Most plans at that point were tossed.
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According to this rumor, looks like Star Wars Land might be smaller than we originally thought.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit.../news/?a=81750
I don't know how reliable this source is but I have a hard time believing that Mos Eisley Cantina would not be part of Star Wars Land.
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According to this rumor, looks like Star Wars Land might be smaller than we originally thought.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit.../news/?a=81750
I don't know how reliable this source is but I have a hard time believing that Mos Eisley Cantina would not be part of Star Wars Land.
But it's posted on the internet, and comes from a "very knowledgeable source". Must be official.

I can't see them taking out the Backlot Express and NOT putting in a Cantina.

And I seriously doubt fans would accept just relocating JTA and putting in a kiddie ride...

Then again, this would be the perfectly underwhelming announcement they've done so far this year.

You know who seems to be quiet about all these rumors? Jim Hill...I don't recall him chiming in...
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IF this does happen, what is everyone's wishlist for SW and Cars at DHS? Do you want them to replicate CarsLand exactly from DCA to DHS?

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CarsLand - I think it should be a bit scaled back, I'd be happy with just the town of Radiator Springs and the RSR attraction. Though I would want them to do the long rumored Monsters Inc attraction that is supposedly on tap for next to TSMM. I would think if that was in the cards, though, it would be opening soon, to coincide with Monstrous Summer and the prequel.

As for RSR, I would actually prefer for them to theme it more along the lines of Cars 2, just to give it a change from the original out in DCA. Granted, I've never been to DCA and the new attraction, but I think it would be nice to mix it up. I understand that Cars 2 is widely panned (I don't think its all that bad), but they have some great visuals to work with, with the Tokyo street scene, the Rainbow Bridge, Porto Corso and the Casino Bridge, and London in general with Big Bentley and everything else. They could use the different race cars from the movie as the ride cars, while still having Lightning and Mater alongside as props or whatever.



Star Wars Galaxy - I have given my plans elsewhere here, but it would include a large expansion and at this point, it isn't looking like that will happen. In lieu of that, I would definitely like to see the indoor Jedi Training Academy with the Turtle Talk technology (Yoda). I think a spinner ride is needed at DHS, and Star Wars provides the perfect fit, as there are many different types of ride vehicles they can use, whether its pod racers, speed bikes, x-wings, TIE Fighters, or even little versions of the Millenium Falcon. This would help address the lack of rides/attractions for the little ones who are under 40".

I agree the Cantina would be the logical choice for eatery, whether TS or QS, but I can see them going with a more general Star Wars theme. The Cantina wouldn't be quite the same without all of the aliens in it, and it would be difficult to create and maintain that many workable AA, and not exactly feasible to outfit CM's who are servers into the type of costumes needed to pull it off well. This would be another chance for them to incorporate the Millenium Falcon, as they can build out the facade of the restaurant to look like the great ship.

I have to think they'd want to add an E-Ticket ride in there as well, and X-Wing vs TIE Fighter attraction would be great, if they can come up with a good concept, or use the technology they patented for the wind-tunnel airplane attraction.

If what is coming out from the different sources is accurate, it doesn't seem like they are going to have separately themed areas for different planets, which is a disappointment. Would love to see a Tatooine area with Jabba's Palace, a PodRacer attraction, Mos Eisley Cantina, and M&G areas for Jawas, Tusken Raiders, Boba Fett, etc. A Coruscant area with the Jedi Temple (maybe the Sound Studio with a new facade) for the Jedi Training Academy, and Streets of America rethemed to Coruscant. A Naboo area with Theed Palace and Naboo Falls (E-Ticket ride similar to Matterhorn Bobsleds). The Death Star. An Endor area with a playground for kids to replace Honey I Shrunk the Kids area, and M&G's with various characters.
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Old 06-19-2013, 01:21 PM   #98
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According to this rumor, looks like Star Wars Land might be smaller than we originally thought.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansit.../news/?a=81750
I don't know how reliable this source is but I have a hard time believing that Mos Eisley Cantina would not be part of Star Wars Land.
"According to an amusement park source who is very knowledgable of the inner workings of the world's largest entertainment company, the following two changes are happening at the Orlando park that are Star Wars-related."

You'll have to excuse me if I don't quite believe that one.
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Old 06-19-2013, 01:55 PM   #99
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The other thing that I got a strong vibe out there from CMs and other folks as well as that big things are brewing for D23. They do not want a bust like the last D23.
Well I went to the first Expo in 2009 and had a great time - a few hiccups but for the most part it was fun. And then went again in 2011 - and had an absoltuely wretched experience. Based on 2011, I am not planning on going this year. I spent a ton on funds to fly out there, get a hotel room, pay for parking at the airport, kennelling the dog. And for what? For 3 days I stood in line after line after line; I didn't get to see the Legends ceremony, didn't get into not ONE single seminar after spending hours sitting on the blue carpet. And don't even get me started on all the folks with "press" credentials who were able to waltz into what ever seminars they wanted - no waiting in line.

Based on that, I'm saving my money and staying home this year. I can sit on my own carpet for alot less money. I hope for those who are going - they have improved things but when I heard there were going to be even more people - I said NOPE, not doing it to me again.

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Old 06-19-2013, 01:58 PM   #100
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If you think that, you haven't ridden it. RSR is to test track like Haunted Mansion is to Winnie the Pooh.
I haven't ridden RSR. Another board, with detailed (but still rumor) information said RSR won't be part of DHS Carsland. I used the Indy Dinosaur analogy. Disney never officially gave us a reason why Indy never made it Florida. I don't think they'll give us a reason if RSR doesn't make it either.

The fact that RSR is something like the next generation test track technology doesn't necessarily mean it's coming to Orlando.

We don't know the cost to operate Lights...We don't know how popular it is. I have no idea who owns the theme park rights to Fast and Furious; changing the theme of Lights to Fast and Furious might be popular. I doubt that will happen, just an idea.

My speculation. "Cars Land" and "Star Wars Land" both offer opportunities for restaurants and gift shops. Logical to either or both might happen.

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The Cantina wouldn't be quite the same without all of the aliens in it, and it would be difficult to create and maintain that many workable AA, and not exactly feasible to outfit CM's who are servers into the type of costumes needed to pull it off well.
Think of a character meal. Some of the aliens will be walking around for photos.

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Old 06-19-2013, 03:48 PM   #101
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back a few months ago I got an email from Disney on a survey (many people on here got the same survey) and one of the questions was about an angry bird star wars play area. I thought that was a cute idea to replace the honey I shrunk the kids...but maybe others didnt think so.
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:43 PM   #102
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back a few months ago I got an email from Disney on a survey (many people on here got the same survey) and one of the questions was about an angry bird star wars play area. I thought that was a cute idea to replace the honey I shrunk the kids...but maybe others didnt think so.
Those surveys often have some off-the-wall blue sky ideas.

Not saying it is a bad idea...but Disney doesn't own Angry Birds. So unless the Lucasfilm license for Angry Birds Star Wars included language about theme park attractions (unlikely, since it was pre-Disney, but not impossible), they'd have to negotiate.
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Old 06-20-2013, 05:39 PM   #103
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I think a cars 1 and 2 inspired ride would be a good idea. have the town outside and inside have scenes from cars 2 or perhaps the other way around. for me I really want to see the outiside looking exactly like DCA, the only thing inside id really like to see is the caverns but having radiator springs inside as well is sort of redundant so I could live with some cars 2 scenes inside or something
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If they got Lucasfilm for only a half billion, it would have been the steal of the century, since Episode VII will very likely gross that easily and $1 billion is within reason. The purchase price was actually $4.05 billion.

Yet, they still may not have had the theme parks directly in mind with that purchase. If Disney doesn't somehow screw up the franchise, they can probably get a return on the investment within a decade.
Here's the not so secret reason that Disney bought Lucas:

Merchandising.

Seriously, provided Disney does not completely kill the franchise with the next 3 movies, the merchandising alone will likely cover the costs of the purchase price over the next decade.

Keep in mind, these stats are from 2007..so they're a bid dated:
http://www.forbes.com/2007/05/24/sta...0524money.html

1.5 BILLION dollars in revenue (not profit, but still) from merchandizing and video games. 10.6 BILLION in revenue over a decade, in toys and video games.

In a non-movie year, they made just over half a billion on toy revenue, alone, in 2010.

Here are the most recent stats I could find, through 2012:
http://statisticbrain.com/star-wars-...chise-revenue/

Total Toys and Video Games: Just over 15 BILLION. And that doesn't include licensing (625 million). general merchanidise (625 million), film revenue (4 billion), or revenue from the TV series (roughly 5 million).

I think you can change your "still may not have had the theme parks directly in mind" to "did not have the theme parks directly in mind". Sure, they probably had the thought, somewhere in their minds, that it might be beneficial to use the property in the parks....but I would bet dollars to donuts it was a passing consideration looking at the above.

Just as it was with Marvel..where theme park use wasn't really a consideration, at all.
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Old 06-22-2013, 11:45 AM   #105
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I just ran across this fan-created map of a potential Star Wars theme park. It was created in 2010. No detail on what the artist has in mind regarding the nature of attractions/rides, but the artwork is cool and it's fun to spur some additional speculation about what they could do with a Star Wars land.

Star Wars Universe Dream Park Map

I did do a quick search to see if this had been posted before and didn't find it. Apologies if it has already been posted previously.
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