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Old 06-17-2013, 12:54 PM   #16
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I don't agree with this at all. The woman is the victim here. The husband should be locked up.

The school should already have security in place to keep people out. Firing the teacher won't keep other crazies from hurting kids if their security stinks.

This is ridiculous.

I would seriously like to see what Pope Francis's reaction to this would be.
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:09 PM   #17
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I believe the article said he's already incarcerated but the school feels they won't know when he's released. I'm still torn. As a parent I can see being frightened. But this woman should not be victimized twice. Shouldn't the school and community be rallying around her and supporting her? I agree restraining orders are a joke. And let's not forget her children are now ostracized from their school and, I'm sure, community.
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:23 PM   #18
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So exactly what do all of you expect the school to do? Continue to employ this woman and willfully endanger the other students and staff at this school? That's going to open the school and the church up to lawsuits from parents that have a good chance of winning.

It's unfortunate, but the school has a greater responsibility to the rest of its students and staff to protect them from a known danger.
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:30 PM   #19
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It is truly a shame that the "system" has failed this mother as well as her children.

I wonder how many people who are criticizing the school would actually pay to send their own children to a school where they know that a domestic abuser may show up and possibly do harm to staff and/or students there?
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:35 PM   #20
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It is truly a shame that the "system" has failed this mother as well as her children.

I wonder how many people who are criticizing the school would actually pay to send their own children to a school where they know that a domestic abuser may show up and possibly do harm to staff and/or students there?
It says she was put on administrative leave and then let go. My guess is that the adminsitration heard from the parents and their own lawyers.

If my child was at the school, I'd be asking for her removal as well. The guy already showed up once. It's awful she has to deal with this, but when her personal problems, no matter what they are, create a threat for my kids, my kids come first.
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:48 PM   #21
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That's a very sad situation with no good way to solve it. The man has already proven that he'll show up there despite being forbidden by law to do so. Responsible parents won't keep paying money to send their kids to a school that has to go on lockdown repetitively due to a specific revengeful guy. If the teacher stays, the students will leave, and then they'll have to lay off other teachers.

Since it is a church school, I hope that they've offered her money and support finding a job through their benevolence fund.
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Old 06-17-2013, 01:49 PM   #22
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I think it's ridiculous that this poor woman and her kids are victimized twice. Once by her ex (and their father) and then by a church that is supposed to support their parishioners. Since when is "no crazy ex's (spouses, parents, siblings, etc) a condition of employment? Or of being accepted into a school? Are the families of the other teachers and students required to submit to background checks in case there might be some scary skeletons in their closets?

And in the meantime, her abusive ex sits in his jail cell and crows "Winner! Winner! Chicken Dinner ! I ruined my ex-wife's life! Yee-haw !"
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I think it's ridiculous that this poor woman and her kids are victimized twice. Once by her ex (and their father) and then by a church that is supposed to support their parishioners. Since when is "no crazy ex's (spouses, parents, siblings, etc) a condition of employment? Or of being accepted into a school? Are the families of the other teachers and students required to submit to background checks in case there might be some scary skeletons in their closets?

And in the meantime, her abusive ex sits in his jail cell and crows "Winner! Winner! Chicken Dinner ! I ruined my ex-wife's life! Yee-haw !"
I agree 100%. I hope she is able to sue the school and win for wrongful termination.
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I think it's ridiculous that this poor woman and her kids are victimized twice. Once by her ex (and their father) and then by a church that is supposed to support their parishioners. Since when is "no crazy ex's (spouses, parents, siblings, etc) a condition of employment? Or of being accepted into a school? Are the families of the other teachers and students required to submit to background checks in case there might be some scary skeletons in their closets?

And in the meantime, her abusive ex sits in his jail cell and crows "Winner! Winner! Chicken Dinner ! I ruined my ex-wife's life! Yee-haw !"
My guess is , is when a school full of children needed to be put on lock down because he violated the RO.

It is unfortunate for this woman and her children but they aren't the only ones that need protecting in that school.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:19 PM   #25
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I think it's ridiculous that this poor woman and her kids are victimized twice. Once by her ex (and their father) and then by a church that is supposed to support their parishioners. Since when is "no crazy ex's (spouses, parents, siblings, etc) a condition of employment? Or of being accepted into a school? Are the families of the other teachers and students required to submit to background checks in case there might be some scary skeletons in their closets?

And in the meantime, her abusive ex sits in his jail cell and crows "Winner! Winner! Chicken Dinner ! I ruined my ex-wife's life! Yee-haw !"
That was his plan and he WON.

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I think it's ridiculous that this poor woman and her kids are victimized twice. Once by her ex (and their father) and then by a church that is supposed to support their parishioners. Since when is "no crazy ex's (spouses, parents, siblings, etc) a condition of employment? Or of being accepted into a school? Are the families of the other teachers and students required to submit to background checks in case there might be some scary skeletons in their closets?

And in the meantime, her abusive ex sits in his jail cell and crows "Winner! Winner! Chicken Dinner ! I ruined my ex-wife's life! Yee-haw !"
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My guess is , is when a school full of children needed to be put on lock down because he violated the RO.

It is unfortunate for this woman and her children but they aren't the only ones that need protecting in that school.
So, will the diocese do background checks on all the families of people who can enter their schools for the safety of the children? Will they check all the employees, priests, nuns, laymen, volunteers and even the children? They need to protect the school, after all. Or is that only reserved for those who have committed the sin of d-i-v-o-r-c-e?
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:34 PM   #28
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Not really sure how I feel about this. While on the one hand I think it's abhorent, on the other I can't imagine how I would feel if my child was in this school. Curious to hear other points of view.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...6pLid%3D330387
My thoughts on this is that there is no protection from psycho's when you are a victim.

As far as her being fired, it is just a response to how things are today. School cannot accept the risk. While I hate it, I can't see how you can allow that type of situation at your school.

Those poor kids.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:43 PM   #29
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So, will the diocese do background checks on all the families of people who can enter their schools for the safety of the children? Will they check all the employees, priests, nuns, laymen, volunteers and even the children? They need to protect the school, after all. Or is that only reserved for those who have committed the sin of d-i-v-o-r-c-e?
Schools are required to run background checks on employees and volunteers here in MA. If you are a parent and volunteer in the classroom, you have to be screened first.

Let's change this situation around and have it be a private non-denominational school. Do you think it would have done any differently?

The children were probably asked to leave the school because their enrollment was a condition of her employment.
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I don't agree with this at all. The woman is the victim here. The husband should be locked up.

The school should already have security in place to keep people out. Firing the teacher won't keep other crazies from hurting kids if their security stinks.

This is ridiculous.

I would seriously like to see what Pope Francis's reaction to this would be.
This, exactly this. I find this blame the victim firing disgusting. It's no different from racial profiling airline passengers: "security theater" playing on people's fears and prejudices.
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