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Old 06-03-2013, 10:01 AM   #91
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Cost of building in Hong Kong would have been extremely cheap. Very low labour costs and the HK government provided the land at no initial cost, owned 57% of the shares in the company running the resort, and injected $3.25 billion initial equity compared with Disney who initially put in $2.45 billion.
Those numbers look huge, but those are Hong Kong Dollars, not U.S. Dollars. Currently, a Hong Kong Dollar is worth around 13 U.S. Cents.

If Disney is ever wants to build a third major destination in the U.S., it's highly unlikely and that the Federal government (or a state or local government) would invest directly and take an ownership position. However, it's likely that Disney would seek and receive infrastructure improvements (such as freeway offramps) and tax breaks.

If Disney ever wants to build another smaller project in the U.S., along the lines of Aulani, it's likely that Disney would be part of a larger masterplanned development. Aulani has the benefit of being part of the Ko Olina Resort. Disney's cancelled project near D.C. would have been part of National Harbor, a private development whose developer had already successfully navigated the the sea of environmental issues and government cooperation.
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Old 06-03-2013, 01:12 PM   #92
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This caught my eye! What do you mean like Vegas- are we talking hotels, or casinos, or nightclubs?
yes they are casinos hotels and attractions Texas wants the money like las Vegas and Oklahoma have so they Said they are planning to build a Strip in dallas
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yes they are casinos hotels and attractions Texas wants the money like las Vegas and Oklahoma have so they Said they are planning to build a Strip in dallas
Legalizing gambling in Texas failed to pass, once again, this legislative session. They can try again in two years.
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Old 06-03-2013, 04:05 PM   #94
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yes they are casinos hotels and attractions Texas wants the money like las Vegas and Oklahoma have so they Said they are planning to build a Strip in dallas
Only problem I see there is that they'd have to legalize casino gambling here in Texas.

If they were to build a mid-sized park there, with a MK/DL park, and an accompanying "regionally themed" park, I would be the first lin line to buy an annual pass! By regionally themed, I mean they could capitalize on the bayou region to the east (think DL POTC), the Gulf of Mexico (certain parts of Disney Sea), lots of greenery, so that would be the obvious place to build Avatar Land. And, to pay homage to the dry western part of the state, a Cars Land would be a natural addition too. These are just items on my "wish list".

With Six Flags Astroworld closed, the next closest draw would be Six Flags Fiesta Texas in San Antonio - and, depending on if it ever reopens, the ill-fated theme park in New Orleans. That cheesy little park planned in the link provided earlier probably won't work too well. The one problem with the other theme parks that could theoretically compete with them? Lodging! None have onsite lodging or RV parks. I loved the Fort Wilderness and Carowinds RV parks when we lived on the east coast. Why don't other parks offer something similar?

I know that it probably won't happen - but a Disney fan can dream, can't he?
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I just tried the link OP posted and got the message that the "blog you are looking for does not exist". There have been rumors for years that Disney was buying, or had bought land in various parts of the Houston area. I do understand the discreet way most of the land was purchased in Florida, but in this day of social media, it would be really difficult to hide a land transaction. Even with the population explosion in Texas, I am not sure that Disney would build a large scale attraction here.

While I would love to have some sort of Disney park within an hour of my home, realistically, I would be surprised to see it come to fruition. I would think some kind of product distribution center would be more likely.
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I just tried the link OP posted and got the message that the "blog you are looking for does not exist".
I think the blog article about the 6,400-acre Disney development north of Houston was a hoax, so the blogger took it down.

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I would think some kind of product distribution center would be more likely.
That would assume that Disney actually made a large real estate purchase in Texas. I don't think there's been such a transaction.
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I think the blog article about the 6,400-acre Disney development north of Houston was a hoax, so the blogger took it down.
No, no, no...we must perpetuate the myth!! Disney MADE them take it down, of course...



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has anyone ever signed a petition are talk to the Disneyland board of directors to try and put a theme park in there state cause Texas has so much land its ridiculous and also if disney was in texas where would be a good place for it and what top 15 rides would you all want .
all i can say it be perfect in either Austin Houston are DFW

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Disney did at one time own property North of Houston near the Texas Renaissance Festival site. Property has since been turned into a subdivision. There were even gates up. My daughter worked for Disney at the time. A new theme park with ex disney employees is being talked about in the Conroe area.
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Houston Chronicle Proposed Disney-like theme park faces uncertain future By Cindy Horswell | February 15, 2012 | Updated: February 15, 2012 9:11pm In 2005, many area residents shed tears over losing the longtime Houston icon AstroWorld. That same year real estate investor John Marlin of Dallas bought land about 30 minutes north of downtown Houston that he envisioned turning into the area's next Disney-style theme park called EarthQuest. But now the fate of Marlin's 1,564-acre tract in Montgomery County that he planned to use for the 500-acre theme park and 1,064-acre residential development will be decided by a U.S. bankruptcy court in Sherman on March 5. Marlin heads Whitestone Houston Land, LTD., which filed for the Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. He could not be reached for comment. But two groups that had been working closely with Marlin in pursuit of the theme park - East Montgomery County Improvement District and Contour Entertainment - are joining forces to try to buy the land and establish a new developer. The court has set a minimum purchase price of $10 million, which is about half what Marlin originally paid for the land that straddles U.S. 59 near New Caney. Completion of the project is estimated to cost about $500 million.



This is what has been floating around Facebook the past week or so. It's from a blogger in Waller Tx from over a year ago.
FYI folks, that is New Caney and not in Waller. There is no theme park plans in Waller. But in New Caney, there are plans afoot for a new, non-Disney park.
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Old 06-30-2013, 09:21 PM   #101
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Disney did at one time own property North of Houston near the Texas Renaissance Festival site. Property has since been turned into a subdivision. There were even gates up. My daughter worked for Disney at the time.
When was this? Do you have a link to a newspaper article about such a Disney real estate transaction? Surely news of this nature would not have been completely ignored by local, regional, and national media.

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A new theme park with ex disney employees is being talked about in the Conroe area.
There's a promoter trying to build something called Grand Texas Theme Park in New Caney, Texas.
Official website: http://www.grandtexas.net/

YouTube video showing an animated flyover: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b67RKHeOPBk

Local ABC affiliate (KTRK-TV/DT, Houston, TX) news report: http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/video?id=9001734
There was also an eco-green park / dinosaur park called EarthQuest Adventures planned for New Caney.
Official website: http://www.earthquestadventures.com

TV news report from 2012: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP8iNd-E1-k

Recent news story at yourHoustonNews.com: http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/humbl...19b02e342.html
I might believe either park will actually open if and when construction is substantially in progress.
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FYI folks, that is New Caney and not in Waller. There is no theme park plans in Waller. But in New Caney, there are plans afoot for a new, non-Disney park.
EarthQuest has had a long and winding road. Latest reports are they're still trying to get to deal finished. Many think it is a Disney front/shell as former imagineers are involved in the project. http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/cypre...9bb2963f4.html
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Many think it is a Disney front/shell as former imagineers are involved in the project.
The leadership of Contour Entertainment -- the design firm responsible for the high quality renderings of EarthQuest (and now apparently taking over the development of EarthQuest) -- includes former Disney Imagineers.

It seems that just about every theme park design firm includes former Disney Imagineers. Whenever WDI has layoffs, former Imagineers join other theme park design firms or start new ones.

If Disney were really behind EarthQuest, Disney would have no reason to hide its involvement. And Disney wouldn't have difficulty financing the project.
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If Disney were really behind EarthQuest, Disney would have no reason to hide its involvement. And Disney wouldn't have difficulty financing the project.
You do do know Disney used multiple levels of shell companies to acquire the WDW property so no one would know who was behind it?

I do agree that EarthQuest isn't a Disney front because the property is too small. I was just relaying that there are people who think it is a front.

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You do do know Disney used multiple levels of shell companies to acquire the WDW property so no one would know who was behind it?

I do agree that EarthQuest isn't a Disney front because the property is too small. I was just relaying that there are people who think it is a front.
Yes.

In the 1960's, when it was a lot harder to trace those shells back to a single corporate source.

And they did it simply to acquire the property at reasonable prices. Because if Disney had shown up, buying up swaths of land, property values would have jumped 500% (or more) over night and Disney would have been unable to get the acreage it wanted.

They weren't trying to keep a secret JUST to keep it secret.

They did not, however, persist using the fronts through development. Nor did they use the fronts to finance the project. Disney just funneled money (and their investors and bankers were well aware of what was going on) to those shell companies to buy property.

I don't think they would approach things quite the same way in this day and age. Given SEC filings and how corporate investors (especially institutional investors) eyeball things, I'm not sure it would work.
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